@theamazingspidey: Well consider the first film to mention the Avengers Initiative was Hulk. A major Marvel property and look how that was taken. Even the reboot wasn't that good. Meanwhile, Zack did something different with Superman and yes, it wasn't perfect, but you make it sound like It's a minority that enjoyed the film. I was devisive yes, but not in the way you suggested. That could otherwise apply to every movie, not just MoS. Zack is good at what he does, so I don't see any issue with his Superman. Especially given the take on this character. Who would you have picked though, if you were picking a Superman director? Also, how does DCs take on their universe look to impact film quality and in what regard?
I mean, yeah people liked Iron Man, but then look at where they got to with the much maligned Iron Man 3 or the objectively (though falsely, in my opinion), weak Thor series, and non-existant Hulk series. Marvel has been good, but there has been a dip in quality and honestly, Cap, Thor, and Iron Man are carrying the MCU and that can't last. Meanwhile, DC has a great chance to spread their characters out better so as to not have that problem.
Are we equating entertainment with good? Man of Steel might've been enjoyable (I enjoyed it too, if you couldn't tell - just look at my avatar) but objectively, it's a poor movie in many aspects. People call Snyder a good director, and he may be a good visual director, but he is overall a weak director. A director's job is more than just adapting a script to the screen and making the film look pretty - it's about directing creative aspects of the film, including the script. Something Zack Snyder managed to fail doing. Man of Steel had structure problems. His vision of Superman isn't awful, but the handling of the plot is poor. I just rewatched the film less than a week ago. You're introduced to Clark in an abrupt (abrupt, not sudden) oil rig scene which lasts for 2 minutes, then you're thrown into the unrelated class room scene which lasts about 2 mins, then thrown back to the present day in a scene which lasts about a minute and a half, then thrown back into the past in a bus scene, where the bus crashes after about 30 seconds of poorly setting up the scene.
Then after all of these things that had poor rhyme and rhythm, the movie has the guts of introducing the Fortress of Solitude scene which is meant to be this major turning point of the story where Clark Kent has finally found where he comes from, but... wait... finally? The movie hasn't even properly developed the character yet! And this is after you've spent roughly 15 minutes with this character throughout brief, poorly stretched together scenes and you're supposed to care.
Excuse me if I derailed this thread, that isn't my intention, but that's why imo, Man Of Steel is objectively a mediocre movie that's enjoyable. He's good at what he does, but what if what he does isn't really a good thing? I guess we should praise the director of Green Lantern for being good at what he does when what he does is... making bad movies.
Marvel has 4 MCU films that ended up in the 1001 greatest / highest rated movies of all time, and including X2: United, DoFP and Spider-Man 2, that's a total of 7 movies.
DC on the other hand, the only thing we have to look at is Man of Steel. The Dark Knight is a fantastic film, but that is non-relative to the future of DC comic movies.
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