Why not Man Lara Croft?

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#1  Edited By DeathpooltheT1000
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Characters are a blank state for the players to do things, taking that they are non important, why has Lara Croft to be a female?

I dont get it.

Is mysogenistic and reinforces the patriacal values on the society, watching that Lara Croft is a men would reinforce the values that your gender doesnt matter, even if he has a pair of gonads and a penis, he can be a female, since gender is a social construct that impose impossible standards to females, like having a vagina and XX chromosome and its time to end the xy chromosome privilege.

Who says a female cant have a beard, testicles and penis, that is womb envy, that is the envy that men feel because they dont have a womb and cant create life alone like women can, the heteropressive state should understand this and accept that gay people is dealing with this to and we should help them, more if they are POTC and worst if they are "disable".

Lara Croft not only should be a man, it should be afroamerican and in a wheel chair, at least they should give you the option.

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I don't like man boobs.

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Women are hotter. But if it happened he would have to be a very cute teenager with a nice bum.

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I don't like man boobs.

Start dieting then.

I kid I kid. You could be a stick for all I know.

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A guy would look stupid in those little Lara Croft shorts.

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Because you don't need to change the character.

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Because it is just as stupid as female Nathan Drake for instance... there is absolutely no need for these changes, invent new freaking characters and leave the old ones alone.

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A guy would look stupid in those little Lara Croft shorts.

I disagree.

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Croft should be a Dog. A real bitch.

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We already have one. His name is Nathan Drake

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So... you want Nathan Drake.

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We already have one. His name is Nathan Drake

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FEMINISM

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Yep, Nathan Drake.

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Because she is not an rpg character and is not meant to be a blank state character and instead tell a story and was created to give female representation while also being sexually exploited because male are the majority of video game player.

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#16  Edited By TheDandyMan

@insaneworld: It doesn't look like you could fit a lot into them if you know what I mean.

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Jackie Chan would be perfect

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There is a male version of Lara Croft

and his name is Indiana Jones

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@reaperonyx said:

We already have one. His name is Nathan Drake

You beat me to it!!!!!!!!!! >:(

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@ui876will said:

There is a male version of Lara Croft

and his name is Indiana Jones

Well technically it's the other way around :P

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Just imagine Sonic dressed like Lara. Instaboner.
Just imagine Sonic dressed like Lara. Instaboner.

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Why not ?

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There is a male version of Lara Croft

and his name is Indiana Jones

Was gonna say that.

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@dernman said:

Croft should be a Dog. A real bitch.

Human privilege has to end!!!

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Because it is just as stupid as female Nathan Drake for instance... there is absolutely no need for these changes, invent new freaking characters and leave the old ones alone.

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I thought he was called Nathan Drake

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I agree with all the Nathan Drake comments.

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@slimj87d said:

I thought he was called Nathan Drake

Co-signed.

I also think that the Uncharted games are a major influence on the Tomb Raider reboot (since Tomb Raider never played like that in older games).

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... Nathan Drake??

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#31  Edited By Norin-Radd

Because it's a established character like solid snake or adol christin not player's avatar like link or dragon born.

You don't change a character's gender all of a sudden how would you feel if someone comes and tell you to change your gender.

And there are male counterparts of lara I.e Nathan Drake and good ol indie.

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#32  Edited By gamejutsu

@deathpoolthet1000: Really bro?

Really?

Imma just answer the question.

Lara is a fixed character, with a personality and stuff. Some characters it is arguable that a gender change would not affect them at all, for example Luke Skywalker, who is a generic Jedi. These are known as Gender neutral characters.

In shore, no Larry (eh, eh?) because she is not gender neutral.

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@gamejutsu said:

@deathpoolthet1000: Really bro?

Really?

Imma just answer the question.

Lara is a fixed character, with a personality and stuff. Some characters it is arguable that a gender change would not affect them at all, for example Luke Skywalker, who is a generic Jedi. These are known as Gender neutral characters.

In shore, no Larry (eh, eh?) because she is not gender neutral.

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Let you whiteness talk, no POTC would ever say anything like that.

Also i am not you bro, thats is position of family privilege and genetic privilege.

Also is pretty clear you didnt saw the Star Wars movies, go and watch them, before calling Luke Generic Jedi and try to understand his role, before posting something like that.

Also play Knights of Old Republic, to understand how gender does change storytelling and how does it.

Also Lara Croft as a character is as much as an avatar as any fictional character, taking she is a female generic copy of Indiana Jones, is more easy to make her a man, that making Indiana Jones a woman.

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@atheistknowledge said:

Because it is just as stupid as female Nathan Drake for instance... there is absolutely no need for these changes, invent new freaking characters and leave the old ones alone.

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I agree with all the Nathan Drake comments.

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#36  Edited By gamejutsu

Is that... Doctor Who?

@deathpoolthet1000 said:

Let you whiteness talk, no POTC would ever say anything like that.

You have no way really of believing me, but i'm not even white, hope that was a joke.

Also POTC? What's that mean?

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Also is pretty clear you didnt saw the Star Wars movies, go and watch them, before calling Luke Generic Jedi and try to understand his role, before posting something like that.

Luke was our introduction to an actual Jedi for realz. His role and such was BIG, but his personality and things like that would not really change if his gender was swapped.

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Lara Croft as a character is as much as an avatar as any fictional character, taking she is a female generic copy of Indiana Jones, is more easy to make her a man, that making Indiana Jones a woman.

When you think about it, she is pretty generic, like Nathan Drake, they're just regular treasure hunters, really.

BAHT, the have their own little story, they were expanded on as characters, not necessarily in-game. A real gender neutral character is not like that. They CAN have their own story, but it needs to not change with the gender switch. Can you see that happening?

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Really bro?

Really?

By this I meant you cloned my topic, but with Lara!

I actually have ZERO problem with Lara all of a sudden being a man in a parallel universe, but I just don't find her as a gender neutral kind of person.

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Lara is not a man's name

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#38  Edited By Jonny_Anonymous

@jwwprod said:

@ui876will said:

There is a male version of Lara Croft

and his name is Indiana Jones

Well technically it's the other way around :P

And Indiana Jones is an American version of Allan Quatermain

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Why not Zoidberg?
Why not Zoidberg?

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Because it is just as stupid as female Nathan Drake for instance... there is absolutely no need for these changes, invent new freaking characters and leave the old ones alone.

... Nathan Drake??

@slimj87d said:

I thought he was called Nathan Drake

Yep, Nathan Drake.

So... you want Nathan Drake.

We already have one. His name is Nathan Drake

I agree with all the Nathan Drake comments.

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You mean nathane drake ?

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Lara is a sex symbol/style icon, you can't really have a male Lara because the appeal would be for a different group.

Nathan isn't really a male Lara, sure they have the same job but those games are far more fleshed out in character development. Tomb Raider was more gameplay focused.

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Characters are a blank state for the players to do things, taking that they are non important, why has Lara Croft to be a female?

I dont get it.

Is mysogenistic and reinforces the patriacal values on the society, watching that Lara Croft is a men would reinforce the values that your gender doesnt matter, even if he has a pair of gonads and a penis, he can be a female, since gender is a social construct that impose impossible standards to females, like having a vagina and XX chromosome and its time to end the xy chromosome privilege.

Who says a female cant have a beard, testicles and penis, that is womb envy, that is the envy that men feel because they dont have a womb and cant create life alone like women can, the heteropressive state should understand this and accept that gay people is dealing with this to and we should help them, more if they are POTC and worst if they are "disable".

Lara Croft not only should be a man, it should be afroamerican and in a wheel chair, at least they should give you the option.

No..Just no

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#45  Edited By the_stegman  Moderator

@reaperonyx said:

We already have one. His name is Nathan Drake

the right answer, right here. And funny enough, he better and more interesting than Croft imo.

(Also, I don't think the OP is serious, he's probably making fun of the "Why no female Link?" thread)

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@gamejutsu: So nothing would change if Luke was a filipino trans without one hand, because nothing in his character scream white heterosexual man.

Again play Knights of Of Republic, to see how a gender does affect storytelling, even if you dont want to believe it.

Also nothing changes if you change Lara Croft for a man actually, contrary to popular belief her games are not made to suit her gender.

The fact people is pointing that Nathan Drake is a male Lara Croft just proves this.

Also Tomb Rider games are or were focused on gameplay, you can change Lara for Donkey Kong and nothing changes.

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#47  Edited By Straight-Fire

@reaperonyx said:

We already have one. His name is Nathan Drake

Agreed. ^_^

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#48  Edited By gamejutsu

@deathpoolthet1000 said:

So nothing would change if Luke was a filipino trans without one hand, because nothing in his character scream white heterosexual man.

Do you know that a gender swap is? I didn't say race swap. And even if he did get changed to a Filipino, the universe is a big place, who would care?

@deathpoolthet1000 said:

Also nothing changes if you change Lara Croft for a man actually, contrary to popular belief her games are not made to suit her gender. The fact people is pointing that Nathan Drake is a male Lara Croft just proves this.

Also Tomb Rider games are or were focused on gameplay, you can change Lara for Donkey Kong and nothing changes.

I know that. that's not what I keep talking about. I am not talking about gameplay. Make Nathan do the exact same things Lara does and NOTHING changes. I was talking about

Character. The fact that they are given such weaving and complex stories outside and inside game do not make them gender neutral.

A game like the Minecraft focuses ONLY on gameplay, there is no complex plot or story happening, and that is why you can change gender and play as several people, because the lack of a story (this is not the only way to be gender neutral) means that anyone you play as will have absolutely ZERO effect on the game AND the story.

Is that honestly the case for Tomb Rader? The gameplay is quite gender neutral, but the character is not. Note that I am not against it happening, I would just need a feasible explanation (like a parallel universe with Flashpoint-like events that slightly shift story events.)

and besides, like several people mentioned, Larry CAN happen but it's completely unnecessary. It would be highly criticized for insulting the existence of Nathan Drake.

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#49  Edited By Rubear

@deathpoolthet1000: Because of the same reason as "Why not woman Indiana Jones?"

Because it's so. Because it's part of character.

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@gamejutsu: Lara is a gender neutral character, there is nothing in Lara that screams she must be a woman, more there is in Luke that screams he should be a man, for the same logic, it doesnt matter if Lara has a penis or a vagina.