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#1 Posted by Pfcoolio15 (309 posts) - - Show Bio

Honestly, I think it's the most versatile form of music and requires a lot of talent. Sure, a lot of the mainstream stuff is pretty meaningless, but when you look past that, rap is some great stuff. Lupe Fiasco is one of my favorites.

#2 Posted by Decoy Elite (30041 posts) - - Show Bio

Who hates rap?

#3 Posted by TheGoldenOne (38849 posts) - - Show Bio

Lupe Fiasco is one of my favorites


Same here.
#4 Edited by Vaccine (277 posts) - - Show Bio

When the music's good, it's good. It doesn't matter what genre it is for me.

#5 Posted by cattlebattle (12694 posts) - - Show Bio

The most versatile form of music?? Really?
 
@Vaccine said:

When the music's good, it's good. It doesn't matter what genre it is for me.


Generally how I feel.
#6 Posted by King Saturn (224025 posts) - - Show Bio
Lupe Fiasco is very good... 
#7 Posted by judasnixon (6478 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm mostly a punk rock type of guy, but I still love me some hip-hop.

#8 Posted by Kal'smahboi (3509 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't hate rap. I hate most rap.

#9 Posted by Deadcool (6810 posts) - - Show Bio

@Pfcoolio15 said:

I think it's the most versatile form of music.

Well, Rap is not considered music...

ANd I don't think that there is a lot of people out there that hate Rap.

#10 Posted by Edamame (28075 posts) - - Show Bio

Most likely because they have their own insecurities (about it).

#11 Posted by YourNeighborhoodComicGeek (20146 posts) - - Show Bio

Judging on what mainstream rap looks like today, I don't blame them.

#12 Posted by Pfcoolio15 (309 posts) - - Show Bio

@Deadcool: Music is any kind of artistic form of auditory communication over an instrumental or vocal structured background

#13 Edited by ssejllenrad (12847 posts) - - Show Bio

So many haters and whiners against hip hop's cred

They ain't getting it. Yeah, their brains're just dead

Can't handle the badass of lyrical geniuses

Just go and talk smack cause they're all jack*sses

Guess them idots think all rappers are Vanilla

Or Lil Wayne or Mane, I swear I will kill ya

Never heard of Tupac or Bone Bone or Biggie

Only listening to sh*t so-called music of Nicky

Shut up haters, don't judge rap by these posers!

There is more to rhyming than these mainstream f*ckers!

So lay back and let us see and envy the dream

And bow to the baddest... named Krispy Kreme

#14 Posted by Xanni15 (6758 posts) - - Show Bio

All genres of music receive a lot of hatred. And you can't expect someone to find what others deem as good rap if they're not popular, that's a lot of work. Still Kanye's carrying the load.

#15 Posted by Joygirl (19390 posts) - - Show Bio

@Kal'smahboi said:

I don't hate rap. I hate most rap.

This. Stretched slightly to encompass almost all rap.

#16 Posted by Deadcool (6810 posts) - - Show Bio

@Pfcoolio15 said:

@Deadcool: Music is any kind of artistic form of auditory communication over an instrumental or vocal structured background

Well, once my music teacher told me that Rap is not music because the music contains 3 elements melody, harmony and rhythm. I think that Rap lacks of melody, so it is not music.

#17 Posted by minigunman123 (3116 posts) - - Show Bio

@Deadcool said:

@Pfcoolio15 said:

I think it's the most versatile form of music.

Well, Rap is not considered music...

ANd I don't think that there is a lot of people out there that hate Rap.

Correct that rap is not music, and I hate rap.

(C)rap is just a bunch of drum beats, techno beats, or whatever, and guys talking to a rhythm. Meaningless to me, and I pretty much hate all of it.

@YourNeighborhoodComicGeek said:

Judging on what mainstream rap looks like today, I don't blame them.

Heh. To be honest, while not all rap is offensive or demeaning, and there is some rap that may be fun to dance to (I can only think of one song, and can't even remember what it's called... or even if it's actually rap...), I do not like listening to it solely on it's own; I'd end up shooting myself if I did. I don't even really like it when it's done for a reason or to dance to, either, because it's usually way too loud, obnoxious beats and smashing on drums, and it is almost always just another grasp to our primal instincts of "LOUD SOUND GOOD" rather than having good structure or form (oftentimes), or meaningful sound attached to it (almost always).

#18 Posted by UltimateHero0406 (2169 posts) - - Show Bio

Some people hate it because they get haughty about how "immoral" it is and look down on it. And it's also dumb how people could dislike instrumentals when it's the lyrics that are the problem.

#19 Posted by mikethekiller (8391 posts) - - Show Bio

Because they don't realize how good it can be.

#20 Posted by JohnnyGat (1562 posts) - - Show Bio

In this specific post of mine my disclaimer is that I don't consider Rap as a genre. Rap is more to Singing as in it's is the action. Hip-Hop is the genre. With that in mind I hate the sub-genre which is Hip Pop just as much as I hate Pop Rock. However other parts of Rap I am more willing to listen to. Blue Scholars, Common Market, and Lupe Fiasco. The only Hip Pop artist I'm willing to listen to is Wale.

#21 Posted by ImmortalT1000 (3170 posts) - - Show Bio

Alot of people just think Rap doesnt make any sense at all... I honestly never thought it made any sense cause I couldnt understand anything anyone says.

However, Eminems the one and only best rapper their is.

#22 Posted by Yung ANcient One (4759 posts) - - Show Bio

WE do have an official Hip Hop Thread

buttah

I say because they are closed minded, and probably arrogant people.

Or like Xanni15 said

All genre gets criticized.

II.

I always hear Maintstread is whack mainstream is whack... Underground is better

UM

NaS

eM

Jay

Kanye

Lupe

Kendrick

A$AP

J.Cole

Common

SlaughterHOuse

are a few mainstream artist

I know so and so started underground yea yea yeah

they're mainstream now

PLUS

I've heard a lot of whack underground music

IMO that $#!% is over-rated

it's just because Big Sean, TrinidadJames, LMFAO, and etc get a little bit more radio play than

And I really do mean a little bit...

(+)

#23 Posted by RoboShark (1208 posts) - - Show Bio

I've heard people make the argument that it takes no talent to rap. It's just a plain ignorant stance.

#24 Posted by slacker the hacker (7835 posts) - - Show Bio
#25 Posted by Rumble Man (11119 posts) - - Show Bio

People love good rap

they hate whack rap (although to me whack rap is comedy gold)

#26 Posted by Pyrogram (36405 posts) - - Show Bio

I dislike most

#27 Posted by CptPanda29 (211 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't hate rap, I hate bad music.

#28 Posted by wildvine (8969 posts) - - Show Bio

@Pfcoolio15 said:

Honestly, I think it's the most versatile form of music and requires a lot of talent. Sure, a lot of the mainstream stuff is pretty meaningless, but when you look past that, rap is some great stuff. Lupe Fiasco is one of my favorites.

Where is your argument? Lots of people like rap, otherwise it would have died out by now. And why can't some people dislike, or even hate rap? must we all like the same things?

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#29 Posted by Chaos Prime (10842 posts) - - Show Bio

Probably because its shite now.O for the days of Public Enemy & their sweet rhyms

#30 Posted by Vance Astro (91196 posts) - - Show Bio

People hating rap doesn't have anything to do with the talent level or quality of music. Alot of people who hate rap hate it because they claim the the lyrics are homophobic,racist, misogynistic, violent, etc.

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#31 Posted by nerdork (4038 posts) - - Show Bio

There is a lot of quality rap/hip hop being produced today. Just dont look for it on MTV or the radio. The Underground Hip Hop genre is, and has been, an amazing form of street poetry. They have clean and creative beats, well thought lyrics, a combination of genres and, in many cases, use a live band as well as a DJ. Crown City Rockers is a good example of a mixture of Jaz and Hip Hop, use a live band, a great back-up singer in addition to the MC (Raashan Ahmad) and the DJ (Woodstock) is very skilled. Zion I is another great group; though they dont use a live band, the DJ (AmpLive) is probably one of the best i have ever heard, and MC Zumbi is a ridiculous lyricist. There are a lot of extremely talented groups out there. But the main stream rap and hip hop that is being produced is, in most cases, crap.

#32 Posted by Deadite (23425 posts) - - Show Bio

@Pyrogram said:

I dislike most

Agree, and it's not the first time I see people being openly defensive for the genre. If it constantly lead to the same argument, maybe the genre is indeed provoking, in its essence.

#33 Posted by TheCannon (18296 posts) - - Show Bio

Because it sounds terrible and is physical torture to listen to.

#34 Posted by The Stegman (23918 posts) - - Show Bio
I love rap. Especially Childish Gambino and B.o.B
#35 Posted by Kyzuko (120 posts) - - Show Bio

@YourNeighborhoodComicGeek said:

Judging on what mainstream rap looks like today, I don't blame them.

#36 Edited by mrdecepticonleader (17859 posts) - - Show Bio

Just don't really like rap its not to my taste to be honest.

Any one who has seen my posts in the what are you listening to thread knows what genre I favor.

#37 Posted by logy5000 (5732 posts) - - Show Bio

1: There's so much profane language.

2: Most rappers are insecure losers.

3: It irritates me when people play it so that you can hear it on the other side of the highway.

4: It's overrated; I mean really, what's so good about it?

#38 Posted by Ms. Omega (4432 posts) - - Show Bio

Personally I used to love rap back in the day now there seems to be no effort no emotion most rappers now seem like they are falling asleep during a song or they auto tune the hell out of it and it sounds like crap.

#39 Posted by Sideslash (5907 posts) - - Show Bio

Because I dislike it. Any questions?

#40 Edited by callsignneptune (112 posts) - - Show Bio

I love rap and hip-hop. I mostly sway towards Kendrick Lamar, Nas' older stuff, Atmosphere, Murs, MF Doom, Childish Gambino and artists like that.I find they're extremely intelligent in their lyrics and a few of them challenge the 'money, women and guns' themes that are present in the majority of mainstream rap.

#41 Posted by Death Certificate (5438 posts) - - Show Bio

Because most them look at Mainstream rap,

#42 Posted by Stronger (4948 posts) - - Show Bio

@Deadcool said:

@Pfcoolio15 said:

I think it's the most versatile form of music.

Well, Rap is not considered music...

ANd I don't think that there is a lot of people out there that hate Rap.

This

#43 Posted by Vance Astro (91196 posts) - - Show Bio

I hate when people say, "I don't consider rap, music", you don't have choice. The definition of music isn't up for debate, something is either music or it isn't, it's not opinion based what genres you're allowed to consider music.

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#44 Posted by VercingetorixTheGreat (2823 posts) - - Show Bio

Personally I think it requires zero talent (well at least modern rap)

Also most mainstream rap is disgusting and promotes violence and criminal activities.

Or maybe its just all the idiots in my school who act like gangsters (which by the way are cowards)

#45 Posted by SHAZAM117 (2844 posts) - - Show Bio

Rap/Hip Hop has it's good artist and bad ones, just like any other form of music. Most people that dislike it, NOT ALL PEOPLE, just don't understand it and in many cases are too stubborn to even try. I love GOOD Rap/hip hop, old and new, but I also personally love other genre's of music too. Evey genre has it's fair share of crap. Love it or hate it tho, Rap/Hip Hop might be the most popular genre of music right now.

#46 Posted by BiteMe-Fanboy (7729 posts) - - Show Bio

I just do. I just don't dig it.

#47 Posted by AssertingValor (5391 posts) - - Show Bio

@BiteMe-Fanboy said:

I just do. I just don't dig it.

#48 Posted by InnerVenom123 (29499 posts) - - Show Bio

Different strokes for different folks.

#49 Posted by ChaosBlazer (3930 posts) - - Show Bio

Because rap/ hip-hop as a genre has been disgraced by modern bling/gangsta rap (if it can be called that), you know, young money, lil wayne etc.... Its not very good. Sure there's good rap out there, but there's tons of bad stuff too. Same for most genres of music. Also, I don't think anybody hates something as general as rap- that's like hating rock music or all movie music. I dislike some rap but I like plenty of rappers out there.

Also, I think rap can be good but it cannot be as powerful as certain classical or grunge songs are (just my opinion). Rap never evoked the emotions I feel when I listen to Alice in Chains or Pearl Jam or RHCP.

So I guess the answer is that people dislike some forms of rap but plenty people that aren't ignorant of music appreciate good hip hop music.

#50 Posted by The Stegman (23918 posts) - - Show Bio
@ChaosBlazer said:

Because rap/ hip-hop as a genre has been disgraced by modern bling/gangsta rap (if it can be called that), you know, young money, lil wayne etc.... Its not very good. Sure there's good rap out there, but there's tons of bad stuff too. Same for most genres of music. Also, I don't think anybody hates something as general as rap- that's like hating rock music or all movie music. I dislike some rap but I like plenty of rappers out there.

Also, I think rap can be good but it cannot be as powerful as certain classical or grunge songs are (just my opinion). Rap never evoked the emotions I feel when I listen to Alice in Chains or Pearl Jam or RHCP.

So I guess the answer is that people dislike some forms of rap but plenty people that aren't ignorant of music appreciate good hip hop music.

There's some rappers out there who don't care about the bling and stuff, and just like having fun rapping, one of my favorite current ones (if not my favorite completely) is Donald Glover aka Childish Gambino.