#1 Posted by minigunman123 (3116 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm balancing net ionic equations, and here's the problem that just tore me a new one:

http://prntscr.com/jgcrv

It should be, NaF + HCl ----> NaCl + HF, for the molecular equation

Na+ + F- + H+ + Cl- -----> Na+ + Cl- + H+ + F- for the total ionic equation

... And nothing for the net ionic equation. Right?

What am I doing wrong!? Been doing this stuff all night!

#2 Posted by InnerVenom123 (29499 posts) - - Show Bio
#3 Posted by nick_hero22 (6752 posts) - - Show Bio

@minigunman123 said:

I'm balancing net ionic equations, and here's the problem that just tore me a new one:

http://prntscr.com/jgcrv

It should be, NaF + HCl ----> NaCl + HF, for the molecular equation

Na+ + F- + H+ + Cl- -----> Na+ + Cl- + H+ + F- for the total ionic equation

... And nothing for the net ionic equation. Right?

What am I doing wrong!? Been doing this stuff all night!

I had to do stuff like that in Chemistry while in High School

#4 Posted by KnightRise (4785 posts) - - Show Bio

Its all sorcery.

#5 Posted by minigunman123 (3116 posts) - - Show Bio

@nick_hero22 said:

@minigunman123 said:

I'm balancing net ionic equations, and here's the problem that just tore me a new one:

http://prntscr.com/jgcrv

It should be, NaF + HCl ----> NaCl + HF, for the molecular equation

Na+ + F- + H+ + Cl- -----> Na+ + Cl- + H+ + F- for the total ionic equation

... And nothing for the net ionic equation. Right?

What am I doing wrong!? Been doing this stuff all night!

I had to do stuff like that in Chemistry while in High School

Well some of us didn't go to highschool and have to do it in community college >_>

@InnerVenom123 said:

Ask the dude who wrote Mr. Fantastic's page.

They'd know.

I don't get it.

Anyway, I'm just going to read a few pages from a chemistry book on it. Comic Vine has failed me o_o

#6 Posted by Xanni15 (6758 posts) - - Show Bio

Well, they're aqueous, right? So you should have a net equation.

#7 Posted by minigunman123 (3116 posts) - - Show Bio

@Xanni15 said:

Well, they're aqueous, right? So you should have a net equation.

I found out what my problem was. HCl doesn't dissociate completely in water, because weak acids are d*cks like that. My Mom gave me some extra reading to do on the topic of ionic equations and acids and such, going to read it tomorrow.

#8 Posted by The Stegman (23203 posts) - - Show Bio

So glad I gave up science and math after high school.

#9 Posted by laflux (14323 posts) - - Show Bio

@minigunman123 said:

I'm balancing net ionic equations, and here's the problem that just tore me a new one:

http://prntscr.com/jgcrv

It should be, NaF + HCl ----> NaCl + HF, for the molecular equation

Na+ + F- + H+ + Cl- -----> Na+ + Cl- + H+ + F- for the total ionic equation

... And nothing for the net ionic equation. Right?

What am I doing wrong!? Been doing this stuff all night!

Basically, the first one is correct but the second one is wrong. In a Ionic equation, the spectator ions should not be present. Na is a spectator Ion as is Cl as they stay in the solution as Ions. the H ion and Cl ion react to give HF gas which while soluble, doesn't form ions.

so it should be H- + F- ---------> HF with the gaseous symbol

I might not be right, so check it out first.