What would you do if it was all a lie?

#1 Posted by The Lobster (1316 posts) - 8 months, 2 days ago - Show Bio

I've been pondering this question for awhile mainly because I'm taking a philosophy class at school and I just finished reading Deadpool Kills The Marvel Universe. 
 
"What would you do if you found out you were the character in a book or film or video game, and reality was a sham?" 
 
Seriously think about before you answer. You just wake up one morning and find out everything you ever knew was false. Free-will doesn't exist. Everybody in the world are puppets to the writer of this book about your life. Not only that, but what happens when the book or movie or video game ends? Will all of existence crumple along with it? 
 
So what would you do? Rebel against the creator? Find a way out of your trapped existence? Check yourself into a mental asylum?

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#2 Posted by CozyDaPrynce (8471 posts) - 8 months, 2 days ago - Show Bio

@The Lobster : I am the Creator. Why would I rebel against myself o_0

#3 Posted by The Lobster (1316 posts) - 8 months, 2 days ago - Show Bio
@CozyDaPrynce said:

@The Lobster : I am the Creator. Why would I rebel against myself o_0

I never said you were the creator? Where'd you get that idea? I said you were the main character in a book/film/tv show/video game that someone outside of your existence was writing.
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#4 Posted by CozyDaPrynce (8471 posts) - 8 months, 2 days ago - Show Bio

@The Lobster said:

@CozyDaPrynce said:

@The Lobster : I am the Creator. Why would I rebel against myself o_0

I never said you were the creator? Where'd you get that idea? I said you were the main character in a book/film/tv show/video game that someone outside of your existence was writing.

I was just writing my own story. Sheesh >_>

#5 Posted by goodguy24 (704 posts) - 8 months, 2 days ago - Show Bio

It would depend on who the character was. That I really was.

If I was a real Terminator then i'd be thrilled because i'd be indestructable........... If I was Chucky it'd be great because then I could stalk a few girls and mess with em and never let anyone besides that girl know I was alive.... I'd only come to life when she was around alone.... I could sneak into her bed eveynight and play.

#6 Posted by The Lobster (1316 posts) - 8 months, 2 days ago - Show Bio
@CozyDaPrynce said:

@The Lobster said:

@CozyDaPrynce said:

@The Lobster : I am the Creator. Why would I rebel against myself o_0

I never said you were the creator? Where'd you get that idea? I said you were the main character in a book/film/tv show/video game that someone outside of your existence was writing.

I was just writing my own story. Sheesh >_>

.......I don't get it.......can you elaborate?
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#7 Posted by The Lobster (1316 posts) - 8 months, 2 days ago - Show Bio
@goodguy24 said:

It would depend on who the character was. That I really was.

If I was a real Terminator then i'd be thrilled because i'd be indestructable........... If I was Chucky it'd be great because then I could stalk a few girls and mess with em and never let anyone besides that girl know I was alive.... I'd only come to life when she was around alone.... I could sneak into her bed eveynight and play.

It would just be regular old you, no superpowers, nothing. Just like if you woke up tomorrow and found out your existence was a sham.
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#8 Posted by goodguy24 (704 posts) - 8 months, 2 days ago - Show Bio

@The Lobster said:

@goodguy24 said:

It would depend on who the character was. That I really was.

If I was a real Terminator then i'd be thrilled because i'd be indestructable........... If I was Chucky it'd be great because then I could stalk a few girls and mess with em and never let anyone besides that girl know I was alive.... I'd only come to life when she was around alone.... I could sneak into her bed eveynight and play.

It would just be regular old you, no superpowers, nothing. Just like if you woke up tomorrow and found out your existence was a sham.

Well then Nothing.

I'd accept it and move on as if nothing happened.

#9 Posted by CozyDaPrynce (8471 posts) - 8 months, 2 days ago - Show Bio

@The Lobster said:

@CozyDaPrynce said:

@The Lobster said:

@CozyDaPrynce said:

@The Lobster : I am the Creator. Why would I rebel against myself o_0

I never said you were the creator? Where'd you get that idea? I said you were the main character in a book/film/tv show/video game that someone outside of your existence was writing.

I was just writing my own story. Sheesh >_>

.......I don't get it.......can you elaborate?

X = 4

#10 Posted by The Lobster (1316 posts) - 8 months, 2 days ago - Show Bio
@goodguy24 said:

@The Lobster said:

@goodguy24 said:

It would depend on who the character was. That I really was.

If I was a real Terminator then i'd be thrilled because i'd be indestructable........... If I was Chucky it'd be great because then I could stalk a few girls and mess with em and never let anyone besides that girl know I was alive.... I'd only come to life when she was around alone.... I could sneak into her bed eveynight and play.

It would just be regular old you, no superpowers, nothing. Just like if you woke up tomorrow and found out your existence was a sham.

Well then Nothing.

I'd accept it and move on as if nothing happened.

You're okay with having no free-will? With everything you do and all events that happen to you being the product of a man and a keyboard? 
 
Kudos man. Thanks for the answer. I'm really curious as to how people respond to this question.
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#11 Posted by goodguy24 (704 posts) - 8 months, 2 days ago - Show Bio

@The Lobster said:

@goodguy24 said:

@The Lobster said:

@goodguy24 said:

It would depend on who the character was. That I really was.

If I was a real Terminator then i'd be thrilled because i'd be indestructable........... If I was Chucky it'd be great because then I could stalk a few girls and mess with em and never let anyone besides that girl know I was alive.... I'd only come to life when she was around alone.... I could sneak into her bed eveynight and play.

It would just be regular old you, no superpowers, nothing. Just like if you woke up tomorrow and found out your existence was a sham.

Well then Nothing.

I'd accept it and move on as if nothing happened.

You're okay with having no free-will? With everything you do and all events that happen to you being the product of a man and a keyboard? Kudos man. Thanks for the answer. I'm really curious as to how people respond to this question.

We pretty much are puppets. Gods Puppets of course.......... if free will didnt exist we couldnt do nothing about it... Comic Characters don't exist because well never see them in real life........

#12 Posted by The_Lunact_And_Manic (2907 posts) - 8 months, 2 days ago - Show Bio

Everything is a lie

Everybody tells me I'm crazy and mad. Unless someone prove that all my memories wasn't made up last night by some weird reason. I'm right.

But, about the book, my reaction would be "!@#%&@ THIS $&#@! I'M OUTTA HERE!!!11"

#13 Posted by jobiwankenobi (1459 posts) - 8 months, 2 days ago - Show Bio

I'd kill everyone if they provided substantial proof of it. Hey, it's not reality so it doesn't matter. Kinda like when Alfonse Elrick thought he wasn't real.

#14 Posted by ImmortalOne (2427 posts) - 8 months, 2 days ago - Show Bio

Well, considering whatever I said or did would be the result of the author, nothing. If I were to find out, it'd be the author's doing. If I were to go on a murderous rampage, it'd be the author's doing again.

But assuming I got free will, I'd ruin his book by doing something crazy... or sitting in my room for the rest of my life. TRY TO GET THAT ON THE BEST-SELLERS!

#15 Posted by The Lobster (1316 posts) - 8 months, 2 days ago - Show Bio
@The_Lunact_And_Manic said:

Everything is a lie

Everybody tells me I'm crazy and mad. Unless someone prove that all my memories wasn't made up last night by some weird reason. I'm right.

But, about the book, my reaction would be "!@#%&@ THIS $&#@! I'M OUTTA HERE!!!11"

How would you plan on escaping your own existence? 
 
@jobiwankenobi said:

I'd kill everyone if they provided substantial proof of it. Hey, it's not reality so it doesn't matter. Kinda like when Alfonse Elrick thought he wasn't real.

So true, cutting the strings would be the only action that serves a purpose cause it's the only thing the writer wouldn't want you to do. 
 
@ImmortalOne said:

Well, considering whatever I said or did would be the result of the author, nothing. If I were to find out, it'd be the author's doing. If I were to go on a murderous rampage, it'd be the author's doing again.

But assuming I got free will, I'd ruin his book by doing something crazy... or sitting in my room for the rest of my life. TRY TO GET THAT ON THE BEST-SELLERS!

True if you found out your life wasn't real, it's only because the writer wanted you to.
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#16 Edited by Mr_Winchester (524 posts) - 8 months, 2 days ago - Show Bio

Doing anything crazy or not will be written by said writter. No free will = Not responsible for one's own actions. Thus we have no moral compass to go by. So do what you want...in a manner of speaking.

#17 Posted by The_Lunact_And_Manic (2907 posts) - 8 months, 2 days ago - Show Bio

@The Lobster : By the same way we escape from nightmares.

Death is useful sometimes.

#18 Posted by The Lobster (1316 posts) - 8 months, 2 days ago - Show Bio
@The_Lunact_And_Manic said:

@The Lobster : By the same way we escape from nightmares.

Death is useful sometimes.

Ah, but maybe that's what the writer wants? What if he gave you the ability to see the strings so you'd go nuts and commit suicide?
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#19 Posted by NlGHTCRAWLER (2567 posts) - 8 months, 2 days ago - Show Bio

Yell "CUT!" whenever i'm in the shower.

#20 Posted by The_Lunact_And_Manic (2907 posts) - 8 months, 2 days ago - Show Bio

@The Lobster said:

@The_Lunact_And_Manic said:

@The Lobster : By the same way we escape from nightmares.

Death is useful sometimes.

Ah, but maybe that's what the writer wants? What if he gave you the ability to see the strings so you'd go nuts and commit suicide?

Interesting, I think the worst thing that could happen is that I would follow what he wants and be happy with it.

Or, I would do everything wrong, strings go to right, I go to left...

Interesting, I think the worst thing that could happen is that I would follow what the writer wants and be happy with it.

Or, I would do everything wrong, strings go to right, I go to left...

#21 Posted by Lady_Liberty (4738 posts) - 8 months, 2 days ago - Show Bio

Really. What would be different? Pretty much nothing, except I would have certain knowledge of how the universe operates.

Life would go on as usual. I don't guess I'd think about it much more then I do any other ToE.

#22 Posted by Chronus (976 posts) - 8 months, 2 days ago - Show Bio

I'll never let the story end.... and I'll make my life interesting.

#23 Posted by SithLantern93 (1259 posts) - 8 months, 2 days ago - Show Bio

Eat a ''banana'' like the this guy

#24 Posted by SC (9851 posts) - 8 months, 2 days ago - Show Bio

Free will doesn't really exist anyway depending on your definition, its just a great illusion that helps us feel like we decide and thus have some control. Reality can't really be a sham, really in such a given situation it would be more accurate to say that my understanding of reality would be fundamentally changed with my prior perception being completely false. I would go on doing what I usually do if I could or if new options were presented to me based on my new understanding of reality then maybe follow those up... if I could. 

#25 Posted by BumpyBoo (3909 posts) - 8 months, 2 days ago - Show Bio

@SC said:

Free will doesn't really exist anyway depending on your definition, its just a great illusion that helps us feel like we decide and thus have some control. Reality can't really be a sham, really in such a given situation it would be more accurate to say that my understanding of reality would be fundamentally changed with my prior perception being completely false. I would go on doing what I usually do if I could or if new options were presented to me based on my new understanding of reality then maybe follow those up... if I could.

This! But I would also add that everyone has a different perception of reality to begin with. And when you factor in things like mental illness, like the massive numbers of people who have some form of disassociative disorders (be they personality disorders or delusions and erroneous beliefs about the identities of friends and family), people who are autistic, schizophrenic, bipolar etc.... When you take into consideration the amount of people who for one reason or another either feel divorced from reality or experience one which is vastly different to your own, it becomes very difficult to answer the question. Which I guess is just the long way of saying that there are people whose realities crumble on a regular basis - so compared to that, having to only have your world turned upside down once isn't so bad.

Also, it is dangerous to base your identity on anything other than what you carry around inside you. No matter what my reality turned out to be, I would still be me because it isn't the events or circumstances in your life that define you: what defines you is how you deal with it.

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#26 Posted by cameron83 (1798 posts) - 8 months, 2 days ago - Show Bio

then i won't be able to do anything,whatever they write then it will happen whether i like it or not.And of course they would write for me to break the 3rd/4rth wall or whatevs

#27 Posted by sesquipedalophobe (4464 posts) - 8 months, 2 days ago - Show Bio

If this were the case I would resort to my usual response to everything in life, impregnate all the cashiers in my store and retire in obscurity.

#28 Posted by YourNeighborhoodComicGeek (13824 posts) - 8 months, 2 days ago - Show Bio

Constantly break the 4th wall, like Deadpool.

#29 Edited by lykopis (6057 posts) - 8 months, 2 days ago - Show Bio

@The Lobster said:

I've been pondering this question for awhile mainly because I'm taking a philosophy class at school and I just finished reading Deadpool Kills The Marvel Universe.

"What would you do if you found out you were the character in a book or film or video game, and reality was a sham?" Seriously think about before you answer. You just wake up one morning and find out everything you ever knew was false. Free-will doesn't exist. Everybody in the world are puppets to the writer of this book about your life. Not only that, but what happens when the book or movie or video game ends? Will all of existence crumple along with it? So what would you do? Rebel against the creator? Find a way out of your trapped existence? Check yourself into a mental asylum?

Well, based on your perimeters I would pretty much ensure I don't make a peep about it to anyone else because A) their actions are controlled by the writer and B) What difference would that make? None evidently.

Lots of movies and books out there that have played with this idea and ultimately, the ends were ...anti-climatic. Because we are all going to "end" one day. And I can adopt the idea of this reality being a sham and still go on as usual because it'll be like an RPG game. I can only deal with the world that was built around me, and whatever led me up to thinking/being/acting the person I am when I found out about the writer is probably the bi-product of the environment he/she/it created around me. So -- yes, no difference at all. But if I am truly the protagonist of the story I would have some fun maybe -- get a little more careless when walking along the edge of a building -- pretty much throw caution to the wind and do things I wouldn't have previously because no real change I work for will last past my ending page.

But if I really had my thinking cap on, I would do things that might make the writer want to continue writing about me. Sequels, prequels, re-starts, alternate universes....

I would be immortal then.

#30 Posted by venomyak (1433 posts) - 8 months, 2 days ago - Show Bio

I've already been convinced for some time that I'm a fictional character. I do not believe I'm the main character though, I believe I'm just a recurring minor character.

#31 Posted by superstay (4969 posts) - 8 months, 2 days ago - Show Bio

@The Lobster :

Dude I think about this all the time like what if we're living a Sims like scenario d?_?b

#32 Posted by 7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning (3575 posts) - 8 months, 2 days ago - Show Bio

@The Lobster said:

I've been pondering this question for awhile mainly because I'm taking a philosophy class at school and I just finished reading Deadpool Kills The Marvel Universe.

"What would you do if you found out you were the character in a book or film or video game, and reality was a sham?" Seriously think about before you answer. You just wake up one morning and find out everything you ever knew was false. Free-will doesn't exist. Everybody in the world are puppets to the writer of this book about your life. Not only that, but what happens when the book or movie or video game ends? Will all of existence crumple along with it? So what would you do? Rebel against the creator? Find a way out of your trapped existence? Check yourself into a mental asylum?

I just finished watching the latest Resident Evil movie today, and this post sorta reminded me of it. lol

#33 Posted by No_Trolling (447 posts) - 8 months, 2 days ago - Show Bio

All your answers are incorrect. You would do what the writer wanted you to do.

#34 Posted by kuonphobos (3166 posts) - 8 months, 2 days ago - Show Bio

@The Lobster said:

"What would you do if you found out you were the character in a book or film or video game, and reality was a sham?"

Seriously think about before you answer. You just wake up one morning and find out everything you ever knew was false. Free-will doesn't exist. Everybody in the world are puppets to the writer of this book about your life. Not only that, but what happens when the book or movie or video game ends? Will all of existence crumple along with it? So what would you do? Rebel against the creator? Find a way out of your trapped existence? Check yourself into a mental asylum?

Wouldn't the discovery of the reality be a kind of freedom? Your subsequent questions seem to imply the possibility of freedom. ie "Rebel against the creator" etc. If the writer was truly in control of reality and you had no free will then I don't think you would either know the difference or have the ability to react to it. Seem there is a logical contradiction at play.

#35 Posted by TheAcidSkull (6776 posts) - 8 months, 2 days ago - Show Bio

well, my life isn't interesting so i bout that, but if i do actually find out, i would probably turn in to a emotionless robot , since love, hate, and everything is a lie, i would loose any meaning in life

#36 Posted by InnerVenom123 (27546 posts) - 8 months, 2 days ago - Show Bio

I'd stop caring.

#37 Posted by SoA (3527 posts) - 8 months, 2 days ago - Show Bio

i liked stranger than fiction. doubt i freak out about my life being a script ill ponder it but no matter my decision to act or go on with life its all written down already its all planned out. i enjoy the simple things in life , like pie. :)

#38 Posted by Ms. Omega (3560 posts) - 8 months, 2 days ago - Show Bio

So by that logic that everything is a lie that statement that everything is a lie that would be a lie negating that everything is a lie butting you back right where you started.

#39 Posted by GodOfMischief (548 posts) - 8 months, 1 day ago - Show Bio

I'd be pretty annoyed lol, but then again I haven't done much with my life at the moment so it's not like it would ruin anything. On the other hand if I had a successful, amazing life only to find out it was a lie and out of my control, then it'd be a different story.

#40 Posted by Delphic (995 posts) - 8 months, 1 day ago - Show Bio

Even if you find out that everything about life is a sham what could you do to resist? Wouldn't you be just as much a puppet as everyone else? There is no free will, so how can you resist what has been set for you by the writers pen? The question of what would you do if you found out is sort of flawed, because you only found out because the writer wanted you to, and even if the writer let you know your life is a sham you still have no control and can do nothing against it unless the writer commands you. You are just as much a puppet as anyone else.

#41 Posted by Samimista (12156 posts) - 8 months, 1 day ago - Show Bio

If everything was a lie would that mean the cake is the truth? *Portal reference*

#42 Posted by Dracade102 (8175 posts) - 8 months, 1 day ago - Show Bio

Demand to see the writer and I'd give him a piece of my mind.

#43 Posted by Shotgun (900 posts) - 8 months, 1 day ago - Show Bio

Well, since the writer is in control of my mind and how I think...then that means he must want me to do whatever the hell it is I want to do, since that is the only reasonable thought that comes to my mind if I found out that reality is nothing more than a script. There will be consequences, but I'm the main character, so the writer will either pull something out of his ass to get me out of it, or have me fridged. I probably would also stop caring about what happens by then.

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