Trying to wrap my head around Zoom's Power (Physics)

Zoom has the ability to slow time relative to himself.... Its my understanding (based on the video) That light moves at the same speed for everyone which means zoom will continue to age and whatnot...Which is consistent with the theory of relativity... Well here is where is gets confusing for me... In order to slow down time Bertrand had to be moving fast enough so that time slowed down for him only... which means everyone else would be moving faster than him...Right? So to move slower though time you have to be fast and to move faster though time you have to be slow???

@Enemybird: Zoom is on a separate time tract from everyone else. Said tract is ahead of the normal timeline by a good margin. So whatever he does with his personal timetract really won't effect the main one as he is separate from it.

@Decoy Elite said:

@Enemybird: Zoom is on a separate time tract from everyone else. Said tract is ahead of the normal timeline by a good margin. So whatever he does with his personal timetract really won't effect the main one as he is separate from it.

Ok that makes sense... My head was about to explode trying to figure it out... thanks

@Enemybird said:

@Decoy Elite said:

@Enemybird: Zoom is on a separate time tract from everyone else. Said tract is ahead of the normal timeline by a good margin. So whatever he does with his personal timetract really won't effect the main one as he is separate from it.

Ok that makes sense... My head was about to explode trying to figure it out... thanks

No problem. I remember there being scans of Jay Garrick explaining how his powers work, so you could hunt them down if you're interested.

...Shouldn't he be like a zillion years old then?

@The Man of Yesteryear said:

...Shouldn't he be like a zillion years old then?

He is able to slow down his own time track.

But yes, in theory he should age quicker than a normal person. Although IIRC he's time locked or something.

@The Man of Yesteryear:

Does he speed up or slow down time around him? I thought he sped time up so he could run faster essentially slowing time down out side of himself. Your right though he should age fast i would think.

Doesnt Zoom and Gabriel (velocidad) have the same powers basically?

@King Saturn said:

You can't use actual physics to legitimately make sense of DC Characters... it wont work because the laws of physics are incredible bent and warped in Comic Books... that's why you have characters like Superman or Flash or even Green Lantern traveling Faster Than Light... characters like Mr. Majestic or Superman moving entire Planets... feats like this are highly highly unlikely under natural laws of physics..

Or people picking up buildings.

@King Saturn said:

You can't use actual physics to legitimately make sense of DC Characters... it wont work because the laws of physics are incredible bent and warped in Comic Books... that's why you have characters like Superman or Flash or even Green Lantern traveling Faster Than Light... characters like Mr. Majestic or Superman moving entire Planets... feats like this are highly highly unlikely under natural laws of physics..

Or people picking up buildings.

@King Saturn said:

You can't use actual physics to legitimately make sense of DC Characters... it wont work because the laws of physics are incredible bent and warped in Comic Books... that's why you have characters like Superman or Flash or even Green Lantern traveling Faster Than Light... characters like Mr. Majestic or Superman moving entire Planets... feats like this are highly highly unlikely under natural laws of physics..

Faster than light travel is possible... also none of the laws of physics would be broken if planets are moved...they move anyways... But i understand your point about not trying to combine the two... Legitimately... But Zoom's powers seemed to have some things that are consistent with real physics and relativity... I just wanted to compare and figure out what it would take for his powers to work...

You can't use actual physics to legitimately make sense of DC Characters... it wont work because the laws of physics are incredible bent and warped in Comic Books... that's why you have characters like Superman or Flash or even Green Lantern traveling Faster Than Light... characters like Mr. Majestic or Superman moving entire Planets... feats like this are highly highly unlikely under natural laws of physics..  

@DEGRAAF said:

@The Man of Yesteryear:

Does he speed up or slow down time around him? I thought he sped time up so he could run faster essentially slowing time down out side of himself. Your right though he should age fast i would think.

Doesnt Zoom and Gabriel (velocidad) have the same powers basically?

Velocidad speeds time up. Zoom does not.

@King Saturn said:

You can't use actual physics to legitimately make sense of DC Characters... it wont work because the laws of physics are incredible bent and warped in Comic Books... that's why you have characters like Superman or Flash or even Green Lantern traveling Faster Than Light... characters like Mr. Majestic or Superman moving entire Planets... feats like this are highly highly unlikely under natural laws of physics..

Faster than light travel is possible... also none of the laws of physics would be broken if planets are moved...they move anyways... But i understand your point about not trying to combine the two... Legitimately... But Zoom's powers seemed to have some things that are consistent with real physics and relativity... I just wanted to compare and figure out what it would take for his powers to work...

@texasdeathmatch said:

@King Saturn said:

You can't use actual physics to legitimately make sense of DC Characters... it wont work because the laws of physics are incredible bent and warped in Comic Books... that's why you have characters like Superman or Flash or even Green Lantern traveling Faster Than Light... characters like Mr. Majestic or Superman moving entire Planets... feats like this are highly highly unlikely under natural laws of physics..

This should be copied and pasted in every battle thread. So sick of when people try to break down everything to the exact science.

Well it is possible ... The video above shows a professor from the university of Minnesota attempt to explain how Dr. Manhattan's powers could work.

@King Saturn said:

@Enemybird said:

@King Saturn said:

You can't use actual physics to legitimately make sense of DC Characters... it wont work because the laws of physics are incredible bent and warped in Comic Books... that's why you have characters like Superman or Flash or even Green Lantern traveling Faster Than Light... characters like Mr. Majestic or Superman moving entire Planets... feats like this are highly highly unlikely under natural laws of physics..

Faster than light travel is possible... also none of the laws of physics would be broken if planets are moved...they move anyways... But i understand your point about not trying to combine the two... Legitimately... But Zoom's powers seemed to have some things that are consistent with real physics and relativity... I just wanted to compare and figure out what it would take for his powers to work...

1. Well I tell you what... When you find the Scientist that says it's possible that some People can Fly and Run Faster Than Light... then we will talk about this issue again.
2. Okay... Again, when you find the Scientist that discovers that it's possible some People can physically move Entire Planets... then we can come back to this issue.

The reason why those things arent possible have less to do with physics and more to do with our knowledge or lack thereof of the universe...

Texasdeathmatch said: "This should be copied and pasted in every battle thread. So sick of when people try to break down everything to the exact science"........... Well you can never break down powers and feats to perfectly exact science. As a scientist in my day job, I understand the limitations with comicbook physics but you can still be accurate and apply basic scientific principle in an argument.....or in other words common sense.

That is partly because Zoom's abilities with his powers already make little to no sense when he starts tossing out Superman level punches despite he shouldn't be hitting any harder than you or I do.

Or running up buildings, tanking hits from the Flash, etc.

@Enemybird:

@Enemybird: it's a comic book. rleax.