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#1 Posted by MarvelAvengersAlliance10 (222 posts) - - Show Bio

In your own opinion, what are the top 10 most powerful countries in the world?

#2 Edited by Relentless1 (233 posts) - - Show Bio

Powerful in terms of military

  1. United States of America
  2. Russia
  3. China
  4. United Kingdom
  5. France
  6. Germany
  7. India
  8. Israel
  9. Iran
  10. Pakistan
#3 Posted by Edamame (27939 posts) - - Show Bio

@MarvelAvengersAlliance10 said:

In your own opinion, what are the top 10 most powerful countries in the world?

Powerful in terms of what? Militarily? Economically?

Please specify. :)

#4 Posted by MarvelAvengersAlliance10 (222 posts) - - Show Bio

@Edamame: Powerful in terms of military.

#5 Edited by Edamame (27939 posts) - - Show Bio

1. United States

2. Russia (It is becoming even more powerful with Putin's plans. Many countries around the world continue to purchase Russian military technology and weapons. That includes China.)

3. China (Ironically, America is helping China rise to power due to Outsourcing of jobs (particularly manufacturing jobs), all of those loans that have to be paid, etc.)

4. & 5. Great Britain/France. (I honestly can't decide between these two.)

6. India

7. Israel

8. Turkey

9. Ukraine

10. Iran

I am not entirely sure about 7-10. Also, I left Japan and Germany out because they are restricted to self-defense militaries.

#6 Posted by Sherlock (7230 posts) - - Show Bio

Sherlocktopia is by far the most powerful.Nothing else even comes close

#7 Posted by TheRealDeal153 (72 posts) - - Show Bio

Top 10 most powerful country in terms of military:

  1. United States
  2. Russia
  3. China
  4. Great Britain = France
  5. India
  6. Pakistan
  7. Israel
  8. Turkey
  9. Japan
  10. Germany
#8 Posted by Bruxae (12568 posts) - - Show Bio
  1. China
  2. Russia
  3. United States
  4. Great Britain
  5. Germany
  6. North Korea
  7. Japan
  8. Israel
  9. France
  10. ???
#9 Posted by mrdecepticonleader (17567 posts) - - Show Bio

There was another thread like this.

#10 Posted by confirukia (219 posts) - - Show Bio
  1. United States
  2. Russia
  3. China
  4. Great Britain = France
  5. India
  6. Nigeria
  7. Israel
  8. Turkey
  9. Japan
  10. Germany
#11 Posted by Chosen1 (162 posts) - - Show Bio

Top 10 militarily powerful:

  1. United States
  2. Russia
  3. China
  4. United Kingdom = France
  5. India
  6. Germany
  7. Israel
  8. Japan
  9. Pakistan
  10. Turkey
#12 Edited by RetardedMonkey (127 posts) - - Show Bio

Powerful in terms of military:

  1. United States
  2. Russia
  3. China
  4. United Kingdom = France
  5. Germany
  6. Japan
  7. Israel
  8. Turkey
  9. India
  10. Pakistan
#13 Posted by Crom-Cruach (8736 posts) - - Show Bio

I'll just leave this here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_military_expenditures

#14 Posted by MarvelvsDCuniverse (94 posts) - - Show Bio
  1. United States
  2. China
  3. Russia
  4. Great Britain = France
  5. India
  6. Germany
  7. Israel
  8. Turkey
  9. Pakistan
  10. Japan
#15 Posted by DCsuperman0007 (515 posts) - - Show Bio

1. united states by far

2. russia

3. china would be number 2 but all their tec is outdated

4. uk

5. france

6. india

7. Saudi Arabia

8. Germany

9. south Korea

10. Israel

#16 Posted by Rampage007 (62 posts) - - Show Bio
  1. United States of America
  2. China
  3. Russia
  4. United Kingdom = France
  5. India
  6. Germany
  7. Israel
  8. Pakistan
  9. Japan
  10. Turkey
#17 Posted by scorpion2501 (5127 posts) - - Show Bio

1.Belgium!

2.United states of America

3.Russia

4.China

5.France

6.United kingom

7.India

#18 Posted by Loki9876 (2993 posts) - - Show Bio

1 Belgium lol no

#19 Posted by scorpion2501 (5127 posts) - - Show Bio

@Loki9876: Traitor!

#20 Posted by YourNeighborhoodComicGeek (19908 posts) - - Show Bio
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#21 Posted by ChaosBlazer (3930 posts) - - Show Bio

india has a powerful military? I had no idea, but it seems to be on most people's lists, guess I'm just ignorant lol

but US is clearly on top, then the major European/ Asian powers

#22 Posted by Nelomaxwell (10365 posts) - - Show Bio

@YourNeighborhoodComicGeek said:

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This.

#23 Posted by Chaos_Hawk (15 posts) - - Show Bio

@Rampage007 said:

  1. United States of America
  2. China
  3. Russia
  4. United Kingdom = France
  5. India
  6. Germany
  7. Israel
  8. Pakistan
  9. Japan
  10. Turkey
#24 Posted by Edamame (27939 posts) - - Show Bio

@ChaosBlazer said:

india has a powerful military? I had no idea, but it seems to be on most people's lists, guess I'm just ignorant lol

Yeah, not as powerful as Britain or France, I don't think. Historically speaking, Russia has sold India weapons and military technology due to the Sino-Soviet split.

#25 Posted by consolemaster001 (4938 posts) - - Show Bio

1. USA or Russia

2.China

3.India

4.Great britian

5.Turkey

6.South korea

7.France

8.Japan

9.Iran

11.Israel

#26 Posted by VercingetorixTheGreat (2823 posts) - - Show Bio

@consolemaster001 said:

1. USA or Russia

2.China

3.India

4.Great britian

5.Turkey

6.South korea

7.France

8.Japan

9.Iran

11.Israel

Russia hell China and Russia aren't as powerful as the US. And South Korea and Turkey above France????? Also Iran above Israel???

1.US by far (largest economy, 3rd largest population, and the largest military)

2.China (second largest economy, largest population gaining in strength)

3.Russia (large amount of decent equipment but a smaller population and economy)

4.France (A large armed forces, large economy, tons of nukes)

5.GB (Pretty much the same as France really they are both interchangeable)

6. India (decent equipment, nukes, and a huge population)

7. Japan (Extremely developed country with a huge economy and large population)

8. South Korea (Large economy and great equipment)

9. Turkey (Large population and a member of NATO)

10. Israel (great economy, great equipment, and the most developed country in the middle east the only thing holding them back is their small population.)

#27 Posted by consolemaster001 (4938 posts) - - Show Bio

@VercingetorixTheGreat: www.globalfirepower.com

also let's not forget that israel is almost powerless without the US.

#28 Posted by consolemaster001 (4938 posts) - - Show Bio

@VercingetorixTheGreat: mine was the older list

#29 Edited by VercingetorixTheGreat (2823 posts) - - Show Bio

@consolemaster001 said:

@VercingetorixTheGreat: www.globalfirepower.com

also let's not forget that israel is almost powerless without the US.

Why do you say that? Israel only depends on the US for military hardware which they already have enough of to destroy all of their neighbors. Israel is a developed nation and can survive on their own.

Now about Global Fire Power, It is ridiculous. I mean Italy above Brazil or Turkey

#30 Posted by Edamame (27939 posts) - - Show Bio

@VercingetorixTheGreat said:

2.China (second largest economy, largest population gaining in strength)

3.Russia (large amount of decent equipment but a smaller population and economy)

6. India (decent equipment, nukes, and a huge population)

7. Japan (Extremely developed country with a huge economy and large population)

8. South Korea (Large economy and great equipment)

9. Turkey (Large population and a member of NATO)

2. and 3.: Eh, not sure why you are putting China head of Russia. China continues to purchase weapons and military technology from Russia, and Russia has the natural resources to maintain a powerful military. It also has the largest military in Europe. The fact that Russia was able to compete with the United States for at least forty years shows how strong Russian industrial power is. China needs natural resources because it doesn't have enough natural resources for itself. That is why they are opening up businesses all around the world to start business with the locals. So, I think that shows that Russia has the upper-hand in terms of military power. Correct me if I am wrong, though.

6. and 7.: Well, Japan's military technology is superior, and it has a superior navy. So, I am not sure if India is more powerful. I could be wrong, though. Japan's air force isn't that bad, either.

8. and 9.: Well, Turkey has a larger population. So, I wonder if its military would be deemed "more powerful". Also, is South Korea's economy larger than Turkey's?

#31 Posted by consolemaster001 (4938 posts) - - Show Bio

@VercingetorixTheGreat said:

@consolemaster001 said:

@VercingetorixTheGreat: www.globalfirepower.com

also let's not forget that israel is almost powerless without the US.

Why do you say that? Israel only depends on the US for military hardware which they already have enough of to destroy all of their neighbors. Israel is a developed nation and can survive on their own.

Now about Global Fire Power, It is ridiculous. I mean Italy above Brazil or Turkey

True, israel's nukes give them advantage as well.

but they're too dependant on us support.

GFP had a more accurate list last year

#32 Posted by VercingetorixTheGreat (2823 posts) - - Show Bio

@Edamame said:

@VercingetorixTheGreat said:

2.China (second largest economy, largest population gaining in strength)

3.Russia (large amount of decent equipment but a smaller population and economy)

6. India (decent equipment, nukes, and a huge population)

7. Japan (Extremely developed country with a huge economy and large population)

8. South Korea (Large economy and great equipment)

9. Turkey (Large population and a member of NATO)

2. and 3.: Eh, not sure why you are putting China head of Russia. China continues to purchase weapons and military technology from Russia, and Russia has the natural resources to maintain a powerful military. It also has the largest military in Europe. The fact that Russia was able to compete with the United States for at least forty years shows how strong Russian industrial power is. China needs natural resources because it doesn't have enough natural resources for itself. That is why they are opening up businesses all around the world to start business with the locals. So, I think that shows that Russia has the upper-hand in terms of military power. Correct me if I am wrong, though.

6. and 7.: Well, Japan's military technology is superior, and it has a superior navy. So, I am not sure if India is more powerful. I could be wrong, though. Japan's air force isn't that bad, either.

8. and 9.: Well, Turkey has a larger population. So, I wonder if its military would be deemed "more powerful". Also, is South Korea's economy larger than Turkey's?

Russia and China are close but China is increasing in power at a rapid rate (Russia is also increasing in influence and power but not at the same rate.)

I would agree that Russia hanging with the US for that long is impressive but that was the past.

Russia does have a decent industrial power but it is nowhere near as large as Russia. With the amount of money China has I don't see fuel being a problem to buy especially since the main Russian navy is in the west and the Russian Pacific fleet can not compete with the Chinese navy.

You are right about Japan having better equipment and a better navy but I don't see either country being able to harm the other. I only put India on there because they are actually posed to become a world superpower.

The South Korean economy is a lot larger then the Turkish almost 1.5x larger and they an asian tiger economy.

#33 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (32646 posts) - - Show Bio

Why is everybody putting the UK 4th? We'r currently downsizing our military to 80,000

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#34 Posted by Edamame (27939 posts) - - Show Bio

@VercingetorixTheGreat said:

Russia and China are close but China is increasing in power at a rapid rate (Russia is also increasing in influence and power but not at the same rate.) Russia does have a decent industrial power but it is nowhere near as large as Russia. With the amount of money China has I don't see fuel being a problem to buy especially since the main Russian navy is in the west and the Russian Pacific fleet can not compete with the Chinese navy.

You are right about Japan having better equipment and a better navy but I don't see either country being able to harm the other. I only put India on there because they are actually posed to become a world superpower.

Well, Russia does have a larger air and tank force, and Putin authorized the spending of hundreds of billions of dollars on modernizing and re-energizing the Russian military. I think you are referring to China's economy, which is much larger and stronger than the Russian economy. Russia still has the tenth largest economy in the world while China has the second largest. I wonder if China's economy will one day surpass America's. I actually don't know much about the Russian navy, and I don't know how large it is. It appears to have a strong presence in the Baltic Sea, but there could be other areas as well. I just don't know how large or powerful it is.

Indeed. It's interesting because it seems as if India really wants to compete with China. Let's see how that goes.

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

Why is everybody putting the UK 4th? We'r currently downsizing our military to 80,000

Well, Britain still has the second best and most powerful navy in the world and the largest air force in the European Union. That still makes it one of the most powerful countries.

#35 Posted by New_World_Order (12471 posts) - - Show Bio

AlI know is United States, Russia, and China are the most powerful.

#36 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (32646 posts) - - Show Bio

@Edamame: Yea and we are downsizing both of them by 5,000

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#37 Edited by VercingetorixTheGreat (2823 posts) - - Show Bio

@Edamame said:

@VercingetorixTheGreat said:

Russia and China are close but China is increasing in power at a rapid rate (Russia is also increasing in influence and power but not at the same rate.) Russia does have a decent industrial power but it is nowhere near as large as Russia. With the amount of money China has I don't see fuel being a problem to buy especially since the main Russian navy is in the west and the Russian Pacific fleet can not compete with the Chinese navy.

You are right about Japan having better equipment and a better navy but I don't see either country being able to harm the other. I only put India on there because they are actually posed to become a world superpower.

Well, Russia does have a larger air and tank force, and Putin authorized the spending of hundreds of billions of dollars on modernizing and re-energizing the Russian military. I think you are referring to China's economy, which is much larger and stronger than the Russian economy. Russia still has the tenth largest economy in the world while China has the second largest. I wonder if China's economy will one day surpass America's. I actually don't know much about the Russian navy, and I don't know how large it is. It appears to have a strong presence in the Baltic Sea, but there could be other areas as well. I just don't know how large or powerful it is.

Indeed. It's interesting because it seems as if India really wants to compete with China. Let's see how that goes.

Russia simply does not have the necessary population to beat a nation which is larger and has comparable equipment. The Russian pacific fleet is a joke and how would the Baltic Fleet affect the outcome of a war half way across the world?

#38 Posted by AtPhantom (14521 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm pretty sure the French navy is currently larger than the British.

Regardless, The French, British and American fleets are still the only blue water navies in the world with global reach and power projection. That earns them place at the top regardless of the their actual sizes.

#39 Posted by Chaos Prime (10842 posts) - - Show Bio

Cuba

Iran

North Korea

Angola

China

Pakistan

Uzbekistan

Iraq

Syria

& Switzerland

& a special mention to Disneyland.

#40 Posted by Edamame (27939 posts) - - Show Bio

^ I'd assume that is due to the fact that the French economy is larger and stronger than the British economy. It's the fifth largest economy in the world, I believe. So, they can afford to have a larger and more powerful navy. Interesting stuff, though.

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

@Edamame: Yea and we are downsizing both of them by 5,000

Down goes Britain's military power then. Is this downsizing due to the economic troubles in the E.U. or?

@VercingetorixTheGreat said:

Russia simply does not have the necessary population to beat a nation which is larger and has comparable equipment.

Not sure why you think that China and Russia have comparable equipment. They ... simply don't. Russia keeps its best weapons for itself and sells the older weapons to other countries around the world. That includes China. Russia comes second place in worldwide weapons sales, right behind America. So, that shows how many weapons they can produce and ... sell. They already engaged each other in the Sino-Soviet split in the 60s for about seven months, and the Russian military killed a lot of Chinese soldiers. More Chinese soldiers perished than Russian soldiers. Also, Russia still has the largest tank force in the entire world and the second largest air force in the world. So, that should say something.

"Just my two cents." :)

@VercingetorixTheGreat said:

The Russian pacific fleet is a joke and how would the Baltic Fleet affect the outcome of a war half way across the world?

Well, they had and still do have significant trade with Cuba, Venezuela and other countries that far away. I am pretty sure that there are some Russian naval bases in Vladivostok or other areas in Siberia.

#41 Posted by Edamame (27939 posts) - - Show Bio

Just to clarify and be more specific:

Largest air forces in the world: America, Russia, China, India and Britain/France (in that order)

Largest navies in the world: America, Britain/France (in that order)

Largest tank forces in the world: Russia, and America or China (in that order)

#42 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (32646 posts) - - Show Bio

@Edamame: The MOD say it's so the military is more efficient run but really it's because they wan't to save money and they realise we are never going to war without other country's backing us up and so we don't need that large of a standing army.

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#43 Posted by AtPhantom (14521 posts) - - Show Bio

Britain is building those two brand new supercarriers. That ought to increase your naval might by a substantial margin.

#44 Posted by jhazzroucher (15062 posts) - - Show Bio

1. USA 2. China 3. Russia 4. India 5. Japan 6. United Kingdom 7. Saudi Arabia 8. Brazil 9. Canada 10. Philippines hehehe : )

#45 Posted by VercingetorixTheGreat (2823 posts) - - Show Bio

@Edamame said:

@VercingetorixTheGreat said:

Russia simply does not have the necessary population to beat a nation which is larger and has comparable equipment.

Not sure why you think that China and Russia have comparable equipment. They ... simply don't. Russia keeps its best weapons for itself and sells the older weapons to other countries around the world. That includes China. Russia comes second place in worldwide weapons sales, right behind America. So, that shows how many weapons they can produce and ... sell. They already engaged each other in the Sino-Soviet split in the 60s for about seven months, and the Russian military killed a lot of Chinese soldiers. More Chinese soldiers perished than Russian soldiers. Also, Russia still has the largest tank force in the entire world and the second largest air force in the world. So, that should say something.

"Just my two cents." :)

@VercingetorixTheGreat said:

The Russian pacific fleet is a joke and how would the Baltic Fleet affect the outcome of a war half way across the world?

Well, they had and still do have significant trade with Cuba, Venezuela and other countries that far away. I am pretty sure that there are some Russian naval bases in Vladivostok or other areas in Siberia.

Most of the tanks in the Russian Army are worthless old soviet t-80s and t-72s. They only have 500 generation t-90s that is the same amount of 3rd generation tanks that the Chinese have as well. Russian equipment sells because it is cheap. I will concede that the Russians have a better air force (for now). Also that Sino-Soviet clash (which was Russia at her height of power) was nothing more then a few skirmishes. Actually I don't believe that the Russians have any naval bases on other soil except for in Ukraine and Syria (which wouldn't help a war so far away)

#46 Edited by Edamame (27939 posts) - - Show Bio

@VercingetorixTheGreat said:

Most of the tanks in the Russian Army are worthless old soviet t-80s and t-72s. They only have 500 generation t-90s that is the same amount of 3rd generation tanks that the Chinese have as well.

That's true, but those tanks can still function, right? Haven't the Russians used them in those fights with Chechnya and elsewhere in the Caucasus? I read somewhere that they have 20,000 tanks in total.

Out of curiosity, how many tanks do America, China and India have in total? I read somewhere that America has about 9,000 tanks. I am surprised to not hear anything about Indian tanks. I assumed that there would be investment in a tank force there.

@VercingetorixTheGreat said:

I will concede that the Russians have a better air force (for now).

Well, the entire Russian military is undergoing serious modernization right now. So, it is probably going to stay strong and eventually get even better. Of course, the Chinese military is undergoing the same modernization process. So, we shall see how this turns out.

@VercingetorixTheGreat said:

Actually I don't believe that the Russians have any naval bases on other soil except for in Ukraine and Syria (which wouldn't help a war so far away)

I thought that there were some near Estonia and Vladivostok, but I guess I am wrong.

How did they reach Syria? That is pretty far away. Did they go through the Istanbul area in Turkey?

#47 Posted by Alyssabird (1363 posts) - - Show Bio

Shouldn't canada be on here?

#48 Posted by Living_Monstrosity (428 posts) - - Show Bio

Why is anyone putting Japan on their list? They don't even have their own military.

#49 Posted by AtPhantom (14521 posts) - - Show Bio

@Living_Monstrosity said:

Why is anyone putting Japan on their list? They don't even have their own military.

They have a sizable military. It's just that their military is technically classified as an extension of the police force to get around the limitations placed on them at the end of WWII.

#50 Posted by Alyssabird (1363 posts) - - Show Bio

@AtPhantom said:

@Living_Monstrosity said:

Why is anyone putting Japan on their list? They don't even have their own military.

They have a sizable military. It's just that their military is technically classified as an extension of the police force to get around the limitations placed on them at the end of WWII.

What limitations?