Time vs Free Will
Destiny isn't a fantasy. It's only a fantasy to a person that has no knowledge nor wisdom of this.
If all of our actions are based on choice, but those choices are based on time constraints, I suppose free will is more like slightly cheap will.
@Deadcool: Destiny isn't a fantasy. It's only a fantasy to a person that has no knowledge nor wisdom of this.
Fastasy is that element that is not shared in my reality, reality is the sum of my perspectives, from my perspective, such things as destiny, god and magic are garbage...
As you can see my reality is different from yours.
My definition of destiny is something that was biased in my life, the one thing that I was biased inmy life was my parents, and then evrybody makes his own destiny, everybody builts his own life, then from my point of view, destiny is not real, some actions in set makes a result, every action creates reaction...
Also, my definition of destiny involves such things as magic or just things that we are unable to stop from certian position... for example, a train, I can't stop the train, but there is a posibility that the train would not come, because an accident or a human mistake, then we all can say that the destiny is built by everyone arround us...
But to continue let me know your concept of destiny...
Time isn't really up for debate, it just is. Free will on the other hand is a lot trickier. Free will vs. destiny is unprovable for either side, so why bother, lol.
@Ebbm: Free will, is follow your heart, follow my feelings... I am picking my nose, because I love to... explain, how is that not free will? or maybe you could post the source of what are you saying...Is Free Will an Illusion?
@Ebbm:
Long before you’re consciously aware of making a decision, your mind has already made it.
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LOL!
Well, at least I can say that I already knew that, such things as decisions are not real, we already made the choice, but that doesn't mean that free will doesn't exist...
I eat chocolate, maybe because I needed chocolate the brain needs glucose to work, but I like it, I love the chocolate, I will not do something that I don't want to do because I don't want, maybe the brain picked the answer befome I say it, but, What is the brain but an entension of myself, the brain would never pick an answer that I don't want to pick...
But thanks for the source, is indeed interesting...
Actually, people in the past called magic as science. Regular scientist would consider "supernatural" as a form of science that hasn't exactly been looked fully into.
Magic is a form of science.
Actually, people in the past called magic as science. Regular scientist would consider "supernatural" as a form of science that hasn't exactly been looked fully into.
?...
The old name of the ancient science was alchemy (chemish) and for some, was the first form of science because the Alchemish aplies the scientific method, the science started to being called magic or whichcraft during the oscurantism.
You haven't explained why destiny = science, or could you give me a better definition?
To answer your question yes. Technically, you're will is free no matter what time line you are at. We see time as a linear line to which we can only move forward, but the only time we are capable of making a decision is the present time which kind of makes it feel like we are suspended of our overall free will. However, this is all due to perceptions of the mind and how we encounter our interactions with the spatial dimensions of what we call a reality. Everything has to due with the size our your comprehension as a sentient being and us being human makes us 3rd dimensional beings (interact 3rd dimension) that have a comprehension capacity to understand time (the 4h dimension). The user Lance Bastro, had posted a few videos related to the issue that you are pondering about. Here is the link. It is the 1st video posted on the page, in fact all of the videos are related one way or another because will is basically a collective of consciousness in a body of one huge conscious. So you as you see yourself is actually one of many of yourselves and that the choices that you think you've never made, you actually already have
Also, I'm sick of people misusing the word science. And magic is not science. If a "magic" is found to be scientific, then it was mislabeled to begin with.
To answer your question yes. Technically, your will is free no matter what time line you are at. We see time as a linear line to which we can only move forward, but the only time we are capable of making a decision is the present time which kind of makes it feel like we are suspended of our overall free will. However, this is all due to perceptions of the mind and how we encounter our interactions with the spatial dimensions of what we call a reality. Everything has to due with the size our your comprehension as a sentient being and us being human makes us 3rd dimensional beings (interact 3rd dimension) that have a comprehension capacity to understand time (the 4h dimension). The user Lance Bastro, had posted a few videos related to the issue that you are pondering about. Here is the link. It is the 1st video posted on the page, in fact all of the videos are related one way or another because will is basically a collective of consciousness in a body of one huge conscious. So you as you see yourself is actually one of many of yourselves and that the choices that you think you've never made, you actually already have.
@Kal'smahboi said:I curious as to whether there's a philosophy where the two are related. I can't think of one that doesn't involve time travel haha. If there is, I'd like to hear it.That is what I asked to myself when I posted my first comment,Wait what do time and free will have to do with each other?
You have a point here... Not entirely equivalent but they're kinda the same really....@fesak: Magic is a form of science.
@PunkMastaFlex said:That's not a point, it's a statement. And an unfounded one, at that.@fesak: Magic is a form of science.You have a point here... Not entirely equivalent but they're kinda the same really....
@Deadcool said:@Kal'smahboi said:I curious as to whether there's a philosophy where the two are related. I can't think of one that doesn't involve time travel haha. If there is, I'd like to hear it.That is what I asked to myself when I posted my first comment,Wait what do time and free will have to do with each other?
I have been waiting for the answer since my first post, but I think that I got a posibility of relation...
"To have liberty, we need to lost certian freedom", that I something that I learned a few years ago, an anarchy is not the same as a liberty, my liberty has limit and those limits are in my fellow...
But as I said before what is the relation between time and freedom?
Maybe for PunkMastaFlex the time is a limit, so we are not free at all... but I don't understand why time is a limit for freedom, free will...
I will post this video anyway...
@PunkMastaFlex: I have no reason to think that things like that exist. As soon as something supernatural becomes observable, it reveals itself as nature :P
Yes. I do however. However, I respect why you don't ^^
@Deadcool: You are just too trippy, dude. Let's be friends :D
@tron_bonne: I am DAMN agree with you... By the way I like Tron Bone XDOh thank you! Do you like my character due to Megaman Legends, Misadventures of tron Bonne or because of Marvel vs Capcom 2 (or 3)?
@Kal'smahboi said:Honestly, that's just awesome of you.Yes. I do however. However, I respect why you don't ^^
@PunkMastaFlex: I have no reason to think that things like that exist. As soon as something supernatural becomes observable, it reveals itself as nature :P
@Deadcool said:@tron_bonne: I am DAMN agree with you... By the way I like Tron Bone XDOh thank you! Do you like my character due to Megaman Legends, Misadventures of tron Bonne or because of Marvel vs Capcom 2 (or 3)?
I played Megaman Legends, but I like her mainly because Marvel vs Capcom 2.
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