#1 Posted by DCsuperman0007 (515 posts) - - Show Bio

the battle takes place at their best

Strength:

Thor: thor has many amazing feats he has strength on par with Hercules but he has shown clear limits.

he may have lifted a planet sized snake but he was needed help from beta ray bill to lift Asgard and still strained doing so.

so while thor is strong he is in no way limitless.

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/BatmanvsWolverine/news/?a=47839

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTUexDPDJxD17_D9kFWu0XnPcFOjk-_nFtoynur80_LDiHXq6TF

http://marvel.wikia.com/Thor

Superman

superman as well has some pretty sick feats and has traded blows with just about everybody worth sneezing at.

its fair to say superman has god like strength (irony) and he proves it.

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superman takes this thor may be one tough son-bitch but he no match for the man of steel in this category.

superman 1 thor 0

speed:

thor: its fair to say thor can not move nearly as fast as superman while that is true thor has incredible reflexes and has tagged speedsters in the past.

how ever thor lacks the raw moving speed superman has but he can fight faster.

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/12/122808/2566304-2264854-1608652_thor_vs_quicksilver_01_super.jpg

superman:

superman is one of the fastest guys out their and he has proved it he finished inches behind flash in a race enough said.

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/7604/1164958-flashv2209p011_super.jpg

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/6/60545/2167961-1722639-sm_709_dylux__9_copy.jpg

while thor can fight much faster supermans raw flight speed would be enough to knock thor for a loop

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skill:

thor: it is pretty obvious that thors years of combat experience outweigh anything that superman has pulled off in the past so there is little to say on the topic.

Superman: superman has mastered several forms of martial arts as well as pressure points.

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k306/crazedclown89/733482-702389_2rfx5jk_super.jpg

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endurance:

thor: thor has withstood just about everything that anybody can dish out but in terms of feats he falls short.

superman: superman has lived threw supernovas, shrugged off nukes and been inside an exploding planet.

superman no contest

superman 3 thor 1

smarts

a worrier vs a guy with a mind stronger than a super computer

superman 4 thor 1

magic

thor dominates in this one superman has no magic at his disposal while thor has some of the most powerful magic out there

thor could crush superman in terms of magic due to supermans lack of it.

however supermans speed would make it impossible for thor to land a good hit.

superman 4 thor 2

other powers

supermans heat vision has taken out an army of doomsday's

thors hammer allows him to control lighting,fly and many other magic related things.

thor has a much wider variety but quality over quantity

superman 5 thor 2

overall superman wins this.

thanks for reading

#2 Posted by IfDCRuledTheWorld (665 posts) - - Show Bio

That's awesome. Always knew Superman could beat Thor.

#3 Posted by pooty (11531 posts) - - Show Bio

did I just read that heat vision trumps all the powers of Mjolnir like portals creating barriers weather control godblast etc. I don't mind rampant one sided fanboyism but that is too much

#4 Posted by DCsuperman0007 (515 posts) - - Show Bio

@pooty:

no but superman could hit thor with HV thor could never hit superman. i wanted to clear that up.

#5 Posted by SC (13299 posts) - - Show Bio

Great write up, however your example of Thor's strength is flawed because Word of God has directly stated that Thor was weakened during that story. Not that that matters, since there are dozens of examples of both Thor and Superman demonstrating limits in strength, and thats okay, because thats how strength is, strength fluctuates depending on how its applied and other factors. Thus to me its a bit of a misnomer to suggest that Thor has "clear" limits. Really the most objective clarity we have involving Thor (and other characters strength) is Word of God aka the writer and the most common answer there is that Thor can lift a lot. So its not clear at all, other than being more than 100 and between 100 and infinity. Its almost as if as a fictional character his strength changes depending on who is writing him and the demands of the plot.

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#6 Posted by AssertingValor (5406 posts) - - Show Bio

Another bias analysis

#7 Posted by KnightRise (4785 posts) - - Show Bio

Please, no more

#8 Posted by DCsuperman0007 (515 posts) - - Show Bio

@LordMaverick: every statement i made was backed up by evidence your wrong its that simple.

#9 Posted by DCsuperman0007 (515 posts) - - Show Bio

i can see nobody wants to debate and you guys are just going to be immature about this.

#10 Posted by AllStarSuperman (22698 posts) - - Show Bio

@DCsuperman0007: sweet post i agree with it all. Thors loses to Supes.

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#11 Posted by New_World_Order (13516 posts) - - Show Bio

This is bias, and does not take into account all Thor's feats that match or surpass Superman in some catergories.

#12 Posted by AllStarSuperman (22698 posts) - - Show Bio

@ThunderGodsWrath said:

This is bias, and does not take into account all Thor's feats that match or surpass Superman in some catergories.

like what?

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#13 Posted by New_World_Order (13516 posts) - - Show Bio

@AllStarSuperman said:

@ThunderGodsWrath said:

This is bias, and does not take into account all Thor's feats that match or surpass Superman in some catergories.

like what?

Thor strikes harder. Thor is more versatile, and has more powerful attacks. Thor is basically the same strength level as Pre-Flashpoint Thor physically. The only thing Superman has on Thor in my opininon is speed, and reflexes. He is also smarter than Thor in some areas too.

#14 Posted by AllStarSuperman (22698 posts) - - Show Bio

@ThunderGodsWrath said:

@AllStarSuperman said:

@ThunderGodsWrath said:

This is bias, and does not take into account all Thor's feats that match or surpass Superman in some catergories.

like what?

Thor strikes harder. Thor is more versatile, and has more powerful attacks. Thor is basically the same strength level as Pre-Flashpoint Thor physically. The only thing Superman has on Thor in my opininon is speed, and reflexes. He is also smarter than Thor in some areas too.

Thor may strike harder but if supes cut loose and actually hit people, it would be way more than a thor punch, people say thors more versatile with godblast, and weather control but supes has heat vision(hot as sun), freeze breath(absolute zero), x-ray and microscopic vision, superhearing, so he could hear thor and even get a picture of thor in his head (see superman 13). i think supes is just as versatile. im not sure about being as strong as preflashpoint supes, and id say hes smarter in most areas, he created his own robots and has acess to all of the alien tech he confincates from enemies and has from krypton.

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#15 Posted by New_World_Order (13516 posts) - - Show Bio

@AllStarSuperman said:

@ThunderGodsWrath said:

@AllStarSuperman said:

@ThunderGodsWrath said:

This is bias, and does not take into account all Thor's feats that match or surpass Superman in some catergories.

like what?

Thor strikes harder. Thor is more versatile, and has more powerful attacks. Thor is basically the same strength level as Pre-Flashpoint Thor physically. The only thing Superman has on Thor in my opininon is speed, and reflexes. He is also smarter than Thor in some areas too.

Thor may strike harder but if supes cut loose and actually hit people, it would be way more than a thor punch, people say thors more versatile with godblast, and weather control but supes has heat vision(hot as sun), freeze breath(absolute zero), x-ray and microscopic vision, superhearing, so he could hear thor and even get a picture of thor in his head (see superman 13). i think supes is just as versatile. im not sure about being as strong as preflashpoint supes, and id say hes smarter in most areas, he created his own robots and has acess to all of the alien tech he confincates from enemies and has from krypton.

  1. Thor has hit Odin, and made him fall to his knees in pain.
  2. Thor is more versatile. He has god blast, anti-blast, teleportation, transmution, molecure manipulation, earth control, weather control, absorbing, magic, energy projection, can make tidal waves, ect.
  3. Superman is more smarter in those areas, but Thor is smarter in the magical, demons, and other stuff
#16 Posted by SC (13299 posts) - - Show Bio

One day I want to see a poster called IHeartThor argue that Superman is a bigger Mack Daddy than Thor and see a user called HardcoreSupermanFanatic counter that and insist that Thor is the biggest OG Playa with even more power game than Superman. Just you know. For the el oh el.

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#17 Posted by FalconPuuunch (942 posts) - - Show Bio

@ThunderGodsWrath said:

@AllStarSuperman said:

@ThunderGodsWrath said:

@AllStarSuperman said:

@ThunderGodsWrath said:

This is bias, and does not take into account all Thor's feats that match or surpass Superman in some catergories.

like what?

Thor strikes harder. Thor is more versatile, and has more powerful attacks. Thor is basically the same strength level as Pre-Flashpoint Thor physically. The only thing Superman has on Thor in my opininon is speed, and reflexes. He is also smarter than Thor in some areas too.

Thor may strike harder but if supes cut loose and actually hit people, it would be way more than a thor punch, people say thors more versatile with godblast, and weather control but supes has heat vision(hot as sun), freeze breath(absolute zero), x-ray and microscopic vision, superhearing, so he could hear thor and even get a picture of thor in his head (see superman 13). i think supes is just as versatile. im not sure about being as strong as preflashpoint supes, and id say hes smarter in most areas, he created his own robots and has acess to all of the alien tech he confincates from enemies and has from krypton.

  1. Thor has hit Odin, and made him fall to his knees in pain.
  2. Thor is more versatile. He has god blast, anti-blast, teleportation, transmution, molecure manipulation, earth control, weather control, absorbing, magic, energy projection, can make tidal waves, ect.
  3. Superman is more smarter in those areas, but Thor is smarter in the magical, demons, and other stuff

Not to be THAT guy, but what exactly are you saying with that first point? Odin has no connection to the DC universe or Superman at all. In the Marvel U Odin may be the big cheese, but that literally has no significance at all when matching both Superman and Thor against one another.

#18 Posted by New_World_Order (13516 posts) - - Show Bio

@FalconPuuunch: Lol, what are you talking about? I used a feat of Thor striking Odin hard enough to drop him to his knees. When matching two characters feats are the most important thing, without them. There is no way to debate to being's from seprate universe, and this is what I was showng. Here is the scan anyways.

#19 Posted by FalconPuuunch (942 posts) - - Show Bio

@ThunderGodsWrath said:

@FalconPuuunch: Lol, what are you talking about? I used a feat of Thor striking Odin hard enough to drop him to his knees. When matching two characters feats are the most important thing, without them. There is no way to debate to being's from seprate universe, and this is what I was showng. Here is the scan anyways.

My point is what exactly is Odin to Superman? You would have to conjure an entire in depth analysis of Superman and Odin before you could even consider using that scan as something even remotely useful in a Superman Vs Thor debate. It would be way easier not to even consider it. How do you know SA Superman couldn't bring Odin to his knees? I'm not saying that he can, i'm just saying that you can't possibly know that he can't.

There is a huge difference between "molecular manipulation" and "punching Odin in the face".

#20 Posted by New_World_Order (13516 posts) - - Show Bio

@FalconPuuunch said:

@ThunderGodsWrath said:

@FalconPuuunch: Lol, what are you talking about? I used a feat of Thor striking Odin hard enough to drop him to his knees. When matching two characters feats are the most important thing, without them. There is no way to debate to being's from seprate universe, and this is what I was showng. Here is the scan anyways.

My point is what exactly is Odin to Superman? You would have to conjure an entire in depth analysis of Superman and Odin before you could even consider using that scan as something even remotely useful in a Superman Vs Thor debate. It would be way easier not to even consider it. How do you know SA Superman couldn't bring Odin to his knees? I'm not saying that he can, i'm just saying that you can't possibly know that he can't.

There is a huge difference between "molecular manipulation" and "punching Odin in the face".

Lol, I swear you make things so complicated. Everyone knows Odin>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Superman. No anaysis needed. Silver Age Superman can bring Odin to his knees in 1 punch easily. He will beat Odin for a fact too. Never said molecure manipulation, and the strike was similar.

#21 Posted by Decoy Elite (30041 posts) - - Show Bio

If you want to debate Thor vs Superman then just post in the 100s of threads for that. If everyone made a thread for their argument in the Off-Topic then the "What's on your mind" thread might actually fall.

#22 Posted by pooty (11531 posts) - - Show Bio

@DCsuperman0007 said:

@pooty:

no but superman could hit thor with HV thor could never hit superman. i wanted to clear that up.

Thor could absolutely hit superman. Superman does NOT always fight or react at light speed so he can be hit and has been hit. I know you're saying that superman could make it impossible to hit him but he rarely fights that way.

#23 Posted by DCsuperman0007 (515 posts) - - Show Bio

@pooty: he could not hit superman with magic its to slow he does have the reaction time to him him.

#24 Posted by pooty (11531 posts) - - Show Bio

what does magic have to do with this? Has Superman been hit by people who should be slower then him? Does Superman ALWAYS fight at his fastest speed? Is Superman always going full steam? Can Thor call down a lightning storm the hits in multiple places simultaneously making it possible that one of them would hit superman? It is possible for Thor to hit superman. Just like it is possible for superman to hit Flash

#25 Posted by TheCannon (19204 posts) - - Show Bio

The username shows how biased this is and proves nothing.

#26 Posted by DCsuperman0007 (515 posts) - - Show Bio

@TheCannon: Superman is a very powerful superhero and he would be even if i didn't like him.

#27 Edited by xlab3000 (3341 posts) - - Show Bio

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