#1851 Edited by TheFirstLantern (1371 posts) - - Show Bio

@fallschirmjager: when aren't they. Flacco is so inconsistent. Now it's worse that he has no receivers other than Smith and Jones.

#1852 Posted by Fallschirmjager (11571 posts) - - Show Bio
#1853 Posted by King Saturn (222808 posts) - - Show Bio

Lets see if Peyton Manning can bust 58 TD passes for the season.

#1855 Posted by inferiorego (20587 posts) - - Show Bio

@thefirstlantern: Bears lost a lot on defense after Urlacher retired. Briggs also got hurt recently. And they lost Melton in camp to a ACL and he was their best player.

Peppers, Tillman and company are getting old too.

Melton is not our best player. The problem is that Briggs and Cutler are out. Tillman is questionable after hurting his knee. Nate Collins and DJ Williams are out too. We still have Jennings and Peppers, although they haven't been producing as much as previous years.

One of the big defensive problems is Chris Conte. The dude instigates. He doesn't play.

There's lots of problems on the Bears this year, but luckily, it's not as much the OL, which has sucked hard the past few years. It's a new coach, lots of rookies, and this is more a rebuilding season than anything else.

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#1856 Posted by King Saturn (222808 posts) - - Show Bio

Anyone else excited to watch the Bears get destroyed on MNF because our QB and ROLB, our two best players, are out?

I'm not.

It could be worse... you could be a fan of All Florida Pro Football Team... the Bears have more wins than All Three Florida Teams combined ( Chicago Bears : 4 - 3 vs Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Jacksonville Jaguars, Miami Dolphins : 3 - 19 )

#1857 Posted by inferiorego (20587 posts) - - Show Bio

@inferiorego said:

Anyone else excited to watch the Bears get destroyed on MNF because our QB and ROLB, our two best players, are out?

I'm not.

It could be worse... you could be a fan of All Florida Pro Football Team... the Bears have more wins than All Three Florida Teams combined ( Chicago Bears : 4 - 3 vs Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Jacksonville Jaguars, Miami Dolphins : 3 - 19 )

The Jaguars aren't a team, silly!

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#1858 Posted by King Saturn (222808 posts) - - Show Bio

@king_saturn said:
@inferiorego said:

Anyone else excited to watch the Bears get destroyed on MNF because our QB and ROLB, our two best players, are out?

I'm not.

It could be worse... you could be a fan of All Florida Pro Football Team... the Bears have more wins than All Three Florida Teams combined ( Chicago Bears : 4 - 3 vs Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Jacksonville Jaguars, Miami Dolphins : 3 - 19 )

The Jaguars aren't a team, silly!

lmmfao

#1859 Edited by Fallschirmjager (11571 posts) - - Show Bio

@inferiorego: Yes he was. He is one of the most underrated players in the NFL because he's an interior lineman.

#1860 Posted by inferiorego (20587 posts) - - Show Bio

@fallschirmjager:

" Underrated" and "best" are two very different things.

Stats comparison for last year: All numbers from espn.go.com

Melton:

solo ast sck ff fr

32126.02 0

Peppers:

solo ast sck ff fr

32711.51

4

Idonije (Now on Lions)

solo ast sck ff

29197.51

Non-line Defense

Briggs:

solo ast sck ff fr yrd int

74291.52002

Tillman

solo ast sck ff fr yrd int

74120.010203

Jennings

solo ast sck ff fr yrd int

5550.00009

don't get me wrong, Melton is good, but calling him the best, when he's pretty much on par with a very strong DLine, a top CB and a top ROLB is a tad bit of a stretch.

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#1861 Edited by Fallschirmjager (11571 posts) - - Show Bio

@inferiorego: stats mean jack. there is so much more to football than stats.

especially for an interior lineman who's job is to eat up blocks most plays.

#1862 Posted by inferiorego (20587 posts) - - Show Bio

@inferiorego: stats mean jack. there is so much more to football than stats.

especially for an interior lineman who's job is to eat up blocks most plays.

Stats are data and pieces of data are facts. You can tell someone all day long something, but unless you can provide evidence, it's just words. If stats mean nothing, then why bother keeping records?

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#1863 Edited by Fallschirmjager (11571 posts) - - Show Bio

@inferiorego: They may be facts but they're not the whole story either. Offensive lineman don't get any stats, does they mean they didn't do anything?

Do you get a stat every time you eat up a double team that allows the linebacker to make the tackle without being blocked?

Do you get a stat for settting the edge and keeping the runner inside contain to get swallowed up?

Does a DB get a stat for locking down a receiver and keeping him covered all game?

-Furthermore, PFF ranked Melton I believe 2nd overall in run defense last year and 4th overall in pass rushing. I'm pretty sure he was ranked 3rd or 2nd over at his position behind Geno Atkins.

Stats don't tell the whole story. How good someone is or isn't has very little to do with stats.

#1864 Posted by Darling_Luna (1119 posts) - - Show Bio

Johnny Football to Tampa or Jacksonville ?

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