#51 Posted by Decoy Elite (29923 posts) - - Show Bio

@ssejllenrad said:

Anyone else think the Android Saga would have been better without Cell?

EHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Maybe.

#52 Posted by PrinceAragorn1 (22794 posts) - - Show Bio

@Decoy Elite said:

@ssejllenrad said:

Anyone else think the Android Saga would have been better without Cell?

EHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Maybe.

maybe.. or maybe not.. Idk why they draw things out so long. Specially the screaming part..

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#53 Posted by InnerVenom123 (29515 posts) - - Show Bio

@ssejllenrad said:

Anyone else think the Android Saga would have been better without Cell?

Would have been better if Cell hadn't changed forms. Just killed the androids and then tried to absorb Goku or someone.

Hell, I could see it being a lot better if he actually managed to SUCCEED in absorbing Goku, and then Gohan has to save the day.

#54 Posted by Death Certificate (5408 posts) - - Show Bio

@ssejllenrad said:

@Death Certificate said:

@ssejllenrad said:

What DBZ arc wasn't flat anyway? They're all the same. Linear crapfest. Now DB, that had story! Adventures, battles, humor, it had em all. I even prefer GT's arcs over DBZ's. They had more substance. DBZ's appeal wasn't in the stories. It had none. Finding quality story from DBZ is like finding drama and character development in porn. DBZ's appeal came from the action.

GT literary made everybody who wasn't goku, pushed to the background.

So did Z. Tons of teasing that almost made Gohan the main character but didn't push through with it. Almost every DBZ arc was like that. Villain comes, Goku is somehow not available, Z fighters battle with the villain but fail, Gohan shows promise but comes out short (insert Piccollo saving Gohan, especially in the OAVs), Goku goes and saves the day. A wee bit different with Cell's ending but when Buu arrived, the same thing happens. So linear. So predictable.

GT was at least a sort of self-ripoff of DB with its adventures focusing on kid Goku. Some journey here and there. Fights not lasting gazillion episodes. Non-uber serious villains (except with the last 2 arcs). At least it was less predictable and less linear. And tons of fan service. Yes, it wasn't a masterpiece a wee bit of a watering down in terms of action. But story-wise. It was ahead of Z.

Dude every arc in GT was more predictable than Z, the whole search for the dragonballs was dropped the moment baby was made.

#55 Posted by ssejllenrad (12790 posts) - - Show Bio

@Death Certificate: To each his own, I guess. I still think DBZ was the lamest among the three series in terms of storyline. As linear as it can get.

#56 Posted by Death Certificate (5408 posts) - - Show Bio

@ssejllenrad: I can agree that GT has the best opening.

#57 Posted by ssejllenrad (12790 posts) - - Show Bio

@Death Certificate: Haha! We're inversed on that one. Cha-La Head Cha-La was the most epic for me. LOL!

#58 Edited by DeathHero61 (7244 posts) - - Show Bio

I know this is old but i actually truly enjoyed the buu arc. It was unique. And it showed that DBZ characters had far worse things to deal with in their universe. A monster that turns its opponents into candy via molecule/matter manipulation. But i honestly did believe the arc had a little bit more potential. It was such a large and crazy arc. And i personally like buu soooo much better than cell. Far more interesting character concept.

#59 Edited by XImpossibruX (5344 posts) - - Show Bio

Why would they make Gohan the main character?

He specifically stated he didn't like to fight and wanted to become a scholar, while Goku has an ambition and drive to fight and get stronger.

People seriously are bitching that we didn't see the series be passed on to Mr. Scholar and his books?

Smh, Comicvine you disappoint.

#60 Posted by dagmar_merrill (11317 posts) - - Show Bio

It's the only one I liked.

#61 Posted by Teerack (8029 posts) - - Show Bio

That's what they did in the manga and then no one liked it and then kept going.

#62 Posted by danhimself (22752 posts) - - Show Bio

It did have imo the best fights of the series with Majin Vegeta vs Goku and Vegeta vs Kid Buu

#63 Posted by The Stegman (27247 posts) - - Show Bio

The only good part about it was Vegeta vs Goku...even then, Goku was holding back, making the fight kinda moot.

#64 Edited by russellmania77 (16068 posts) - - Show Bio

Majin buu saga was the best saga and way more epic than cell saga

#65 Edited by ThatGuyWithHeadPhones (13460 posts) - - Show Bio

Cell Arc for just for dat Trunks.

#66 Edited by Marshall_Long (2729 posts) - - Show Bio

Buu Saga was mediocre overall, but brings some of the best moments in series.

#67 Posted by Super_Saiyan_3_Gohan (27 posts) - - Show Bio

Sorry, but I'm new here, don't know if there's a rule here about posting in old threads, so forgive me if I did, I just wanted to add my two cents. Basically, I utterly loathed the Buu Saga. Literally, there is nothing I liked about it except Goten, Super Saiyan 3, and Vegetto. That's it. That's everything. Oh, and the Faulconer score, of course, but one might not even count that considering it wasn't even the original soundtrack. It ruined Gohan's character, yes, but I wouldn't have been nearly as pissed if he hadn't ended up with a girl who so totally did NOT deserve him. Really, I'm probably the only person in the history of the world who hates Videl so much that I was cheering when she got beat up. Goku reaches unbelievable levels of sadism and cruelty which makes no sense from a storytelling perspective since they were trying to make him the "god among gods" of Saiyans just to please the butt-hurt angry Goku nerds, and if you're gonna make someone an icon along the lines of Superman as well as returning them to the position of main hero to boot, you'd better not make them, as I see it, at best an anti-hero, at worst an evil monster. And I can tell from recent material that DBZ is only getting worse and worse. I hate the Buu Saga, hate it so much, and I hate all the Goku fanatics who made it happen.

#68 Posted by ScouterV (2629 posts) - - Show Bio

Honestly, I think a lot of people didn't like the Buu Saga for two things.

Humor and Gohan not being the most powerful anymore.

Yeah, he was the strongest or a whole...one fight? And Goku is dead?That's kind of a flat ending to me...

#69 Posted by DarthAznable (9122 posts) - - Show Bio

The main demographic that hates the Buu saga are Gohan fans. The only reason I liked the Cell saga was for Future Trunks and Cell himself.

#70 Posted by Black_Of_Shadow (322 posts) - - Show Bio

Majin buu saga had good moments.

#71 Edited by Dbzk1999 (1755 posts) - - Show Bio

@super_saiyan_3_gohan: if only goku fanatics actually made something happen

But they didn't

Sadism? Cruelty? Hah THAT is funny

Hate people who think they know why the buu saga was the way it was

#72 Edited by silent_bomber (2470 posts) - - Show Bio

Yup, it pretty much sucked.

DBZ was already getting repetitive during the Cell saga, but at least there were a handful of new ideas here and there, and the end of the Cell saga book-ended the series with a coming of age "Son takes over from the father" style message that worked reasonably well.

Buu Saga just went back on everything, repeated the same ideas, undermined all the earlier characters etc etc.

#73 Posted by Enemybird (3402 posts) - - Show Bio

The Buu saga was not only the worst saga in DBZ, its was one of the worst story arcs in the history of the observable universe. In a way, Buu succeeded in his mindless goal of destruction, he destroyed our childhood memories. He destroyed what would've otherwise been a fantastic end to a legendary show.

#74 Edited by Enemybird (3402 posts) - - Show Bio

Has anyone every been curious about how Chichi and Bluma can you know? Have sex with Goku and Vegeta without being killed?

#75 Posted by Spidey_Jackson (3403 posts) - - Show Bio

It could have been worse.

Beata

#76 Posted by Spidey_Jackson (3403 posts) - - Show Bio

@scouterv: Isn't Ultimate Gohan stronger than Goku?

Beata

#77 Posted by Noone301994 (9630 posts) - - Show Bio

I thought it was good.

#78 Posted by dboyrules2011 (16100 posts) - - Show Bio

DBZ blows in general.

#79 Posted by _Braveheart_ (2178 posts) - - Show Bio

The Majin Buu saga was alright, but I still think it wasn't as good as the Android saga.

#80 Edited by Rouflex (24434 posts) - - Show Bio

Earth-man agree

#81 Posted by Naamah_Obyzouth (4649 posts) - - Show Bio

Frieza was a Saga. Buu was a Saga. Cell was not a Saga. It was just a part of the Frieza Saga.

Still... I agree. Buu sucked. And even if Cell was not techinically a Saga, it was far superior to the Buu Saga.

#82 Edited by Enemybird (3402 posts) - - Show Bio
#83 Posted by Noone301994 (9630 posts) - - Show Bio

@enemybird: Buu was actually a threat that no one had any idea how to handle. Essentially everyone died in that saga. Sh!t hit the fan. In the Android Saga they just trained hard enough and beat their enemies with little to no casualties.

#84 Posted by ArturoCalaKayVee (13671 posts) - - Show Bio

While I enjoyed the Buu saga because it gave us things like Vegito, who is my favorite character, I would have been more than happy if DBZ ended after Cell.

#85 Posted by Spidey_Jackson (3403 posts) - - Show Bio
#86 Edited by Enemybird (3402 posts) - - Show Bio

@enemybird: Buu was actually a threat that no one had any idea how to handle. Essentially everyone died in that saga. Sh!t hit the fan. In the Android Saga they just trained hard enough and beat their enemies with little to no casualties.

Everyone died and then came back to life. Everyone's death in that saga was just as meaningless as they've always been. This saga was by far the goofiest, between the big head animations, the massive amounts of videl & gohan filler. I just couldn't take it. There were no epic moments from this saga at all. Name one?

#87 Posted by Noone301994 (9630 posts) - - Show Bio

@enemybird: Vegito fighting Buu, Mystic Gohan fighting Buu, Gotenks fighting buu, Vegeta sacrificing himself, Super Saiyan 3 reveal, the final spirit bomb, kid buu destroying Earth, Buu absorbing Z fighters, Buu killing everyone on Earth on a whim, etc. Those were all epic moments in my opinion, but at the end of the day it's just that. My opinion.

#88 Posted by Naamah_Obyzouth (4649 posts) - - Show Bio

@spidey_jackson: It wasn't long enough to be a saga. We even have people say that The Android Saga/The Cell Saga... Really? When you buy the sets, Frieza and Cell are connected.

Was the Ginyu Force it's own Saga as well?

#89 Posted by Spidey_Jackson (3403 posts) - - Show Bio

@naamah_obyzouth: Dbz is split into 3 parts. Each part has multiple mini sagas that tell the 3-season story for each saga. And each of these sagas have the Z-Fighters facing a main villain, and other smaller threats associated with said main villain.

The Android saga is the 2nd Master Saga. So no,

Cell is not part of the Frieza saga.

Beata

#90 Posted by BeaconofStrength (7790 posts) - - Show Bio

It was alright.

Also, DB>GT>Z

#91 Edited by micah (4657 posts) - - Show Bio

@enemybird: Buu was actually a threat that no one had any idea how to handle. Essentially everyone died in that saga. Sh!t hit the fan. In the Android Saga they just trained hard enough and beat their enemies with little to no casualties.

#92 Posted by Jimmy_Rustler (1645 posts) - - Show Bio

Android/Cell sagas were the best.

#93 Posted by Gymgoer205 (1066 posts) - - Show Bio

@innervenom123: That sounds like a terrible idea in my opinion. Thankfully Akira Toriyama agreed with me. The androids only purpose was to be absorbed by cell. And Cell absorbing Goku? Lol wut? Why would Gero want his worse enemy to be a part of his greatest creation?

#94 Edited by Gymgoer205 (1066 posts) - - Show Bio

@naamah_obyzouth: Cell was part of the Frieza Saga? Lol wut? What Manga did you read? I don't think even the anime had cell in the Frieza saga.

#95 Posted by The Stegman (27247 posts) - - Show Bio

It was bad, I hated Buu.

#96 Posted by GraniteSoldier (10029 posts) - - Show Bio

It was my least favorite. The series was solid until Buu, and it just seemed to almost parody itself at that point. Still had some cool combat scenes, but it was pretty mediocre at best.

#97 Posted by Marshall_Long (2729 posts) - - Show Bio
#98 Posted by ThatGuyWithHeadPhones (13460 posts) - - Show Bio

Vegeta's character regression was the worst part to me.

#99 Posted by HumanRocket (10220 posts) - - Show Bio

At least we got Majin Vegeta out of it. That was pretty cool.

#100 Posted by BeaconofStrength (7790 posts) - - Show Bio

@marshall_long: Z was too far away from Dragonball and the 4 episode power ups got tiring. At least GT went in the more fun direction.