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@4thor: Yeah,because normal people judge the team by one game.........so Real Madrid who won 5-1 are better than Barca at the momment?.....gimme a break,man....all you pretencious Bayern fans,think you're better than everyone.

Sorry but you were the one that said that Bayern is really off, didn't you? why? M City is not that weak they won last year in the Allianz Arena, i don't think Bayern fans are better than anyone i respect all football fans, i just don't understand your statement!

Yes we are not playing like 2 seasons ago but we still are in a good level not off as you said!

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Arsenal are da bomb.

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@4thor said:

@punyparker said:

@4thor: Yeah,because normal people judge the team by one game.........so Real Madrid who won 5-1 are better than Barca at the momment?.....gimme a break,man....all you pretencious Bayern fans,think you're better than everyone.

Sorry but you were the one that said that Bayern is really off, didn't you? why? M City is not that weak they won last year in the Allianz Arena, i don't think Bayern fans are better than anyone i respect all football fans, i just don't understand your statement!

Yes we are not playing like 2 seasons ago but we still are in a good level not off as you said!

Υeah,i did, and i mean it.
Stricly in football terms,you are off,for Bayern standards,man.......you don't play like you used to.That's what i meant,and i think it's reasonable.

I was bothered that you mentioned Barca,and compared the two,judging by one game only.

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#454  Edited By 4Thor

@punyparker: i only saw the highlights of the Barcelona last game but in my opinion Barcelona is not playing in a level above Bayern, both teams are way down from the levels shown in recent glory years, i think Barcelona have more potential to improve because the manager is new and it's hard to build a balanced team with so many superstars, Guardiola is a miss fit in the German football but i will always support the "The Bavarians", the champions league is a tricky competition R. Madrid wasn't playing very well in the beginning of last season (this year is worst), but in the end with all that talent manage to win the 10 champions, so we have to see what will happen in the future ,but at the present it's clear to me that Barcelona and Bayern have the potential to win the champions but they are playing a bad football.

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#455  Edited By PunyParker

@4thor: But for Real,the key was Di Maria and Alonso....they're gone.

And i agree with everything else.

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Bayern 12-13 were monsters.No team in the last 10 years were close except for 08-11 Barca.

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#457  Edited By PunyParker

@itachi_totsukablitz said:

Bayern 12-13 were monsters.No team in the last 10 years were close except for 08-11 Barca.

Agreed.

I'd say Bayern 11-13,though...

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@punyparker: I guess i was wrong Bayern level this season is lower than i thought... Bayer 04 and Dortmund have great chances in this year Bundesliga!

Real Madrid wake up this weekend or Deportivo de la C. is to weak?

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@punyparker: I guess Suarez was a very big part in Liverpool success last season!

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@4thor said:

@punyparker: I guess Suarez was a very big part in Liverpool success last season!

31 goals,6 assists.....no shIt!!! :P

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@punyparker: i didn't read the all topic, in Germany you are with Dortmund and Spain Barcelona and England? Man United?

I like Liverpool their fans are very inspirational, but i think this year it's for Chelsea in premier and next season Man United!

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#463  Edited By PunyParker

@4thor: I don't have a specific team in England......i'm Premier League from England! :P
My dad's a Liverpool fan,and i liked Bale ,a couple of years a go so i'm a Liverpool-Tottenham hybrid.

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@experio i just turned on the TV,dude, what the fyck?......

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@punyparker: That bullsh*t referee screwed us, gave them a soft penalty when Man U were 3-1 up when Rafael 3 seconds earlier is the one who got pushed hard, he gave them another penalty after they equalised without giving us a throw on prior to the counter attack. The 2 best players on the pitch (Di Maria and Falcao) from that point were already off and Leicester regained confidence to win the match.

Very depressing.

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Liverpool lost

Man Utd Lost

Man City and Chelsea drew

Tottenham lost

Arsenal Won.

Good weekend to be a gunner

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#471  Edited By PunyParker
@frogdog said:

Liverpool lost

Man Utd Lost

Man City and Chelsea drew

Tottenham lost

Arsenal Won.

Good weekend to be a gunner

The only one......

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Why the cluck us the NFL Redzone host using a crappy Microsoft Surface!

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Hahaha Drew Brees went ham on that Defensive guy… he was pissed.

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@punyparker: congrats for Barcelona 5-0 win, this year la liga will be boring Barcelona will be a easy champion!

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@4thor said:

@punyparker: congrats for Barcelona 5-0 win, this year la liga will be boring Barcelona will be a easy champion!

Last Year Barca won their first 11 games,and you see what happened,so i'm not being cocky.

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#476  Edited By Experio

@frogdog: @punyparker: @4thorSunDeep:

Who was a better midfielder in their prime:

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Comments about each other:

Xavi Hernandez: Paul Scholes is a role model. For me – and I really mean this – he's the best central midfielder I've seen in the last 15, 20 years. I've spoken to Xabi Alonso about him. He's spectacular, he has it all: the last pass, goals, he's strong, he doesn't lose the ball, vision. If he'd been Spanish he might have been rated more highly. Players love him.

Scholes: Dont compare me to the likes of him

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@experio said:

Comments about each other:

Xavi Hernandez: Paul Scholes is a role model. For me – and I really mean this – he's the best central midfielder I've seen in the last 15, 20 years. I've spoken to Xabi Alonso about him. He's spectacular, he has it all: the last pass, goals, he's strong, he doesn't lose the ball, vision. If he'd been Spanish he might have been rated more highly. Players love him.

Scholes: Dont compare me to the likes of him

I'm biased,you know that,Xavi's my favorite player,but......did Scholes mean that as a bad thing?.......if so,it's really ugly of him to say....

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Why is this thread about soccer and not football?

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@experio: Xavi won everything that a football player can win, National team and Barcelona he never was the decisive player but a very important element in his dream teams, Scholes was the heart of the Man United Alex Ferguson best teams also a winner in the club, and an example to follow.

I identify myself more with Scholes, sometimes Xavi likes to enter in inappropriate exchange of words with other players and managers.

In the end both were great.

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Why so much Chelsea hate? Why so much Barcelona love? Why?

@raffels said:

Why is this thread about soccer and not football?

Soccer is a North American word. The rest of the world has it right.

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#481  Edited By Experio

@punyparker: As a good thing, as in Xavi is leagues above him. They both believe the other is better than themselves.

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#482  Edited By Experio

@4thor: Well you and the others are the reasonable voice, Parker and I undeniably show favouritism lol

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@experio said:

@punyparker: As a good thing, as in Xavi is leagues above him. They both believe the other is better than themselves.

Ah.
Then it's cool,it sounded wrong.

@ms-lola said:

Why so much Chelsea hate? Why so much Barcelona love? Why?

BARCA LOVE?!!!
I'm the only one here supporting the team.....

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@ms-lola: Barcelona love? not me!

i don't like much Chelsea manager personality (Jose Mourinho) but i like how his team is playing in this season, great start for Chelsea!

Bayern München rules European Football (the best) in the last 5 years. (This season i think could be a different story)

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@4thor: Chelsea is off to a great start, I agree. I just come across a lot of hate for the team where I am.

@punyparker: Haha, okay, I admit, it's mostly because you are so pervasive on this thread. You might convince me to like them. Might.

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@ms-lola said:

@punyparker: Haha, okay, I admit, it's mostly because you are so pervasive on this thread. You might convince me to like them. Might.

Don't need to.
Weather you like Barca,or not.

Team's history,philosophy,generally everything's unique.
So i don't have to convince people.

And in general,people who don't like Barca,is because Barca destroyed their team at some point. :P

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@ms-lola: What if the best athletes in America played soccer instead of the hundred oter sports we're great at? Wouldn't we have the best team if the Lebron James of the world played soccer instead of basketball?

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@4thor said:

Bayern München rules European Football (the best) in the last 5 years. (This season i think could be a different story)

Whoa whoa whoa,dude,back it up a notch..........last 5 years?.....since 2009?!.......isn't it a tad excessive?!....
2009-10-11 AND 12 it was Barca.........what 5 years?

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@raffels: Leaving aside the idea Americans are the best at one hundred other sports, what does having the best players have to do with the name of a sport? I could argue Canada owns the word "basketball" because a Canadian came up with the game. (which I'm not).

@punyparker: Oh no, you di'n't...

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#490  Edited By Experio

Bayern from past 5 years are like Man U from 2008, both won one champions league but lost twice in the final.

Only difference we got defeated by Guardiola's Barcelona and their tiki taka, which were a much harder team and arguably the greatest starting from the year 2000. Much different from the Barca that Bayern played against in 2013.

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#491  Edited By 4Thor

@punyparker: Bayern in the first pic and Barcelona in the second (last five years)... Conclusions?

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@ms-lola: I'm talking about being the bast at the game not the name change

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@ms-lola said:

@punyparker: Oh no, you di'n't...

Oh yes i did.

@ms-lola said:

@raffels: Leaving aside the idea Americans are the best at one hundred other sports, what does having the best players have to do with the name of a sport? I could argue Canada owns the word "basketball" because a Canadian came up with the game. (which I'm not).

Preach. (that's gonna be our thing ,now)

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Bayern from past 5 years are like Man U from 2008, both won one champions league but lost twice in the final.

Only difference we got defeated by Guardiola's Barcelona, which were a much harder team with their tiki taka. And much different from the Barca that Bayern played against in 2013.

Yeah,but the dude says past 5 years,whereas 2008-2012 it was Guardiola's Barca who dominated everything,losing only to busses like Chelsea and Inter in 2012 and 2010,in the CL.....

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@4thor said:

@punyparker: Bayern in the first pic and Barcelona in the second (last five years)... Conclusions?

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  1. I talk about general dominance,Europe and country
  2. Barca has 2 wins.....here's your conclussion. :)
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@punyparker said:

@4thor said:

@punyparker: Bayern in the first pic and Barcelona in the second (last five years)... Conclusions?

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  1. I talk about general dominance,Europe and country
  2. Barca has 2 wins.....here's your conclussion. :)

where are the 2 Wins ?

I last 5 years Barcelona only won the Champions League in 2011 see again the pics.

Bundesliga vs La liga Draw

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Please don't ignore the facts also in 2012-2013 Barcelona lost 4-0 and 3-0 with Bayern :)

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#496  Edited By PunyParker

@4thor: In 2009 they won the CL.
'Season' and 'year' are two different callibers,my friend.

And ok,you go by the "last 5 seasons'' policy,cool, so Barca has one win,and Bayern has one,too.
Bayern has 3 championship wins,Barca does too.

Where's the superiority exacly?......

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@4thor: In 2009 they won the CL.

'Season' and 'year' are two different callibers,my friend.

I think you know when i say 5 years i m referring to seasons that's how football works that's what makes UEFA clubs rankings, you challenge me to prove why i mentioned that Bayern was the dominating club in Europe in the last 5 Seasons or years and i did it, i was not saying nothing that absurd, as you first stated.

Better performance in the Champions League 3 Finals against 1!!!

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@4thor said:

Better performance in the Champions League 3 Finals against 1!!!

YOU.
LOST!!!

2 finals,two wins,baby!!! (i'm still counting in 2009,because that suits me.....like "last 5 yesrs" suit you,in your arguement)

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@punyparker: my statement was not absurd the facts are above!

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@4thor said:

@punyparker: my statement was not absurd the facts are above!

Facts that Bayern's an equal team to Barcelona the last 5 years,in terms of titles?!....yes!...i never said any different!
The "fact" that Bayern dominates and is "superior" to Barca,in the era where EVERYONE were talking about Guardiola's Barcelona is ignorant!!