Star Wars: Greatest Legends Lightsaber duelists?

This thread is strictly for Legends characters that exist outside of the Films continuity/aren't characters that exist in the films, TV shows, or novels connected to the movies.

From the EU that's not connected to the films, what Lightsaber wielder has impressed you the most as a fighter? What lightsaber forms have they mastered, or if they're creative enough what forms have they hybridized to give them an edge over their opponents? If you pitted them up against another Legends duelist/or one of the more exposed Canon lightsaber wielder, how do you think they'd fare even given that Legends usually isn't as exposed as Canon?

To make things more interesting from accolades, feats, non nexus showings, or based on who they fought or defeated who is the single greatest Legends lightsaber duelist who isn't connected to the films/TCW/or tie in novels from the PT/OT period?

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Idk if he's the best lightsaber duelist, but I really like StarKiller. He's pretty good

Caedus perhaps?

My vote goes for Plageuis.

Caedus or Plagueis or Kun or something like that.

Caedus, hands down.

Darth Malgus

Plagueis, Kun, Caedus, Ulic, Revan.

I really like Starkiller but I think Caedus might be #1.

Easy. Darth Vader. His hybrid form is unmatched.

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Plagueis or Caedus.

Jacen Solo.

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No Emperor's Wrath or Darth Nox??

@dccomicsrule2011: Jacen Solo, wouldn't even make my top 10. How did you come to this conclusion?

Didn't you just name Caedus/Jacen yourself, tho?

@dccomicsrule2011: I said Plagueis and Caedus.

@dccomicsrule2011: I'm probably being confusing. When he went by Jacen Solo he hadn't reached his full potential. Not until he became Darth Caedus and completed his training.

@naamah_obyzouth:

So....that means you have Caedus in the top 2, right? Then what's the problem? I use Jacen Solo and Caedus interchangeably since they're the same people, technically. Unless, of course you seperate the two, and if so, fair enough.

Edit: Read your latest post (since I was replying as you posted) and yeah - I agree. He was at his peak during his Darth Caedus days, and wouldn't be in the top 2 if we're just talking his Jacen days.

Really hard to say tbh. Power influences ability with a blade as long as there is some level of form mastery.

Luke Skywalker has always impressed me with his knowledge, flawless bladework, and technical skill. Caedus impresses me just because of his casual ability to demolish people when he try's. His fantastic tactical thinking in the heat of battle also is quite impressive.

I also like how comfortable Ben Skywalker is in almost any fight, he never seems to be on the short end of the stick per se. I almost feel like he could stand up to Sidious without fear. I guess I'm more impressed with his mien in battle though he isn't lacking in skill.

Caedus.

@ziggystardust: Notice how most people here are saying Caedus is one of the if not the best lightsaber duelists? Have you changed your mind on Grievous being able to beat him now?

I don't think you read the OP correctly, honey.

I'm seeing the ad populum fallacy again. The number of people who believe a claim is irrelevant to its truth. Fifty million people can be wrong. In fact, millions of people have been wrong about many things: that the Earth is flat and motionless, for example, and that the stars are lights shining through holes in the sky.

Regardless, adhering to the strict stipulation of this thread that is - no movie characters. Meaning - Windu, Sidious, Yoda, Anakin, Obi Wan, Vader, Luke, Dooku, Maul and of course, Grevious aren't to be included. So yes, the likes of Caedus, Lumiya and potentially Plagueis all are honorable mentions.

Caedus, Plagueis, and Kun