#1 Edited by All_Mighty_Beyonder (1887 posts) - - Show Bio

the entire fight :

#2 Edited by Warcry80 (2309 posts) - - Show Bio

Why!! Did I even watch!! Waaaaahhh!! Nahh Just kidding!! LOL!! Good stuff! Bills barely tapped him and crippled him!! Damn he's powerful!!

#3 Posted by Mortein (3885 posts) - - Show Bio

looks good

#4 Posted by Death Certificate (5722 posts) - - Show Bio

More like goku gets owned by Bills

#5 Posted by GhostRider2 (3812 posts) - - Show Bio

@Warcry80: that was ridiculous but im glad they revived dragon ball :).

#6 Posted by Nefarious (26050 posts) - - Show Bio

Lol Goku got humiliated.

#7 Posted by Warcry80 (2309 posts) - - Show Bio

I am glad also!! It needed to come back being that so many fans wanted it back!

#8 Posted by Shavo (2199 posts) - - Show Bio

not really spoilers we already knew goku was going to get his ass handed to him in ssj3...but thanks anyway :D

#9 Posted by All_Mighty_Beyonder (1887 posts) - - Show Bio

@Warcry80 said:

Why!! Did I even watch!! Waaaaahhh!! Nahh Just kidding!! LOL!! Good stuff! Bills barely tapped him and crippled him!! Damn he's powerful!!

powerful and fast, we see that Goku couldn't keep with Bills movements and got blitzed in all the fight

#10 Posted by All_Mighty_Beyonder (1887 posts) - - Show Bio

@KINGJAMES447 said:

not really spoilers we already knew goku was going to get his ass handed to him in ssj3...but thanks anyway :D

yeah,not totally spoilers, but just more details of the fight that's all

#11 Posted by Warcry80 (2309 posts) - - Show Bio

YES!! Bills is amazing powerful!! Goku took blast and hits from Kid Buu only to shrug them off, yet Bills...... all I can say is wow!!!

#12 Posted by Shavo (2199 posts) - - Show Bio

@All_Mighty_Beyonder said:

@KINGJAMES447 said:

not really spoilers we already knew goku was going to get his ass handed to him in ssj3...but thanks anyway :D

yeah,not totally spoilers, but just more details of the fight that's all

yea but off this video people are going to tempted to well..

#13 Posted by ThatGuyWithHeadPhones (14064 posts) - - Show Bio

My friend you've just opened the flood gates

but on topic Awesome Fight(beating) might actually see this

p.s I HATE GOKU Original Voice

#14 Posted by All_Mighty_Beyonder (1887 posts) - - Show Bio

@KINGJAMES447 said:

@All_Mighty_Beyonder said:

@KINGJAMES447 said:

not really spoilers we already knew goku was going to get his ass handed to him in ssj3...but thanks anyway :D

yeah,not totally spoilers, but just more details of the fight that's all

yea but off this video people are going to tempted to well..

LOL, yeah,

Bills vs...

SS Goddo Goku vs ...

they are going to invade this site. and the first victim will be Superman :D

#15 Edited by All_Mighty_Beyonder (1887 posts) - - Show Bio

@ThatGuyWithHeadPhones said:

My friend you've just opened the flood gates

but on topic Awesome Fight(beating) might actually see this

p.s I HATE GOKU Original Voice

hhhh, well the voice actor is a girl, do you know that? it's something common in Japanese works, many anime's main characters have girl voice :P

#16 Posted by DangerousLoki (729 posts) - - Show Bio

So that feat that everyone's been posting of "BILLS STOPS GOKU WITH A FINGER" isn't accurate. He doesn't stop Goku's charge with a finger. He just flicks him. Completly different feat. Still It's nice to see a purely physical fight. going down here and not a single ki attack is used by either. That's the kind of fights I really wanted to see in DBZ. Bills didn't appear to be "Crazy powerful" his power waws by far based on skill. He's insanely skilled. He's strong and fast yes. But it's his skill that sets him apart from the others Goku's faced.

#17 Posted by YoungChief (310 posts) - - Show Bio

Question. So, Goku was easily able to bust through King Kai's planet with a punch, uh, isn't his planet more dense than Earth? It has 10 times the gravity of earth, but it's so small so I assumed that the only explanation is that it has really high density.

#18 Posted by ThatGuyWithHeadPhones (14064 posts) - - Show Bio

@All_Mighty_Beyonder: I'm Well aware of that

Luffy

Naruto

Reborn

but I just don't think her voice fits him at all.

#19 Posted by BobSaysHi25 (196 posts) - - Show Bio

Lol here comes the neck chop feat ; D

#20 Edited by All_Mighty_Beyonder (1887 posts) - - Show Bio

@YoungChief said:

Question. So, Goku was easily able to bust through King Kai's planet with a punch, uh, isn't his planet more dense than Earth? It has 10 times the gravity of earth, but it's so small so I assumed that the only explanation is that it has really high density.

and finally, here you go, a canon feat of how powerful are DBZ hits. :D

also, Buu did the same if i remember, when he hit an energy ball so hard that it penetrated Earth and got out from the other side

#21 Posted by L3g3ndaryPheonix (240 posts) - - Show Bio

the crazy part is he just messing around with goku one does not fool around with a ssj3 goku.it makes me wonder how string super saiyan god will be though

#22 Edited by NeonGameWave (10390 posts) - - Show Bio

Awesome footage! Bills is very skilled but he is also extremely powerful and SSJ3 Goku was a bug compared to him.

#23 Posted by CerberusPrime3k (978 posts) - - Show Bio

Man....King Kai can't catch a break his planet was already blown to smithereens from Cell....

#24 Edited by Warcry80 (2309 posts) - - Show Bio

Ohh he's physically powerful, he dropped SS3 Goku with a Finger Flick and then a Chop to the shoulder! Theres no telling how much power was focused into those two blows! Imagine a full powered punch!

#25 Posted by AncientSuperSaiyan (149 posts) - - Show Bio

Now is the time for Superman/Marvel fanboys to start apologizing. Whilst I'm still accepting. Lol watch how the series gets ridculously pwerful if this movie does well.

#26 Posted by AncientSuperSaiyan (149 posts) - - Show Bio

In retrospect, I'm disappointed that you can make SSJ3 so weak now - The SSJ3 transformation was a landmark in DBZ for the ''ridiculously'' strong category, with other top tiers like Vegito, Buuhan, Janemba etc.

#27 Posted by Pokergeist (23181 posts) - - Show Bio

Well... the animation looks good. The concept is ****ing stupid. I mean seriously, Kid Buu was blowing planet after planet with ease and proved to be SS3 Goku and SS2 Vegeta superior. But Buu still had to drag out a battle.

Now we have this crappy Bills that no one heard of love tapping SS3 into KOes....

Stupid.

One of the reasons I dislike DBZ ever since the Frieza Saga.

#28 Posted by God_Spawn (39167 posts) - - Show Bio

@AncientSuperSaiyan: 1st warning for insults. Instigating by calling people fanboys isn't necessary.

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#29 Posted by Batman242 (4896 posts) - - Show Bio

@AncientSuperSaiyan said:

Now is the time for Superman/Marvel fanboys to start apologizing. Whilst I'm still accepting. Lol watch how the series gets ridculously pwerful if this movie does well.

What are you talking about?

#30 Posted by AncientSuperSaiyan (149 posts) - - Show Bio

@god_spawn said:

@AncientSuperSaiyan: 1st warning for insults. Instigating by calling people fanboys isn't necessary.

Plenty of threads you haven't opened with namecalling, I sense alot of biased actions here, but it's all good. It's just like with any authority over a minority of people, kinda like polce being heavy handed because of a lil bit of piggy power. It's okay, make sure not to run out of mod warnings before the days up.

#31 Posted by cooljammy18 (1145 posts) - - Show Bio

@AncientSuperSaiyan said:

In retrospect, I'm disappointed that you can make SSJ3 so weak now - The SSJ3 transformation was a landmark in DBZ for the ''ridiculously'' strong category, with other top tiers like Vegito, Buuhan, Janemba etc.

They've been doing this all over the Majin Buu saga. Remember when the regular Super Saiyan mode was the landmark for DBZ? Gohan made it more symbolic by achieving SSJ2 and it was fine there...but nope.

Nice fight though. Apparently, the movie is leaked on the internet, but I'll wait. Want to see Bills own some more characters, and get some good feats so we can have better battle threads that don't rely on pure speculation.

#32 Edited by God_Spawn (39167 posts) - - Show Bio

Not a battle.... per say.

Moved to another area.

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#33 Posted by Setherial (225 posts) - - Show Bio

Doctor Strange would still pwn the hell out of Bills. So there.

#34 Posted by Deadite (25091 posts) - - Show Bio
#35 Edited by All_Mighty_Beyonder (1887 posts) - - Show Bio

@YoungChief said:

Question. So, Goku was easily able to bust through King Kai's planet with a punch, uh, isn't his planet more dense than Earth? It has 10 times the gravity of earth, but it's so small so I assumed that the only explanation is that it has really high density.

i just calculated the average density of King Kai's planet, assuming that the diameter of the planet is about 100 m, and with 10G we gat density of about 7 billion Kg/m3, that means 1272033 times more dense than earth. even a white dwarf has density much lesser than King Kai's planet density. now where is Superman's best punch compared to this? :D

http://www.stardestroyer.net/Empire/Tech/Beam/Calculator.html

#36 Posted by jeanlucpicard (1902 posts) - - Show Bio

@All_Mighty_Beyonder: Where is the full movie at?

#37 Posted by All_Mighty_Beyonder (1887 posts) - - Show Bio

@jeanlucpicard said:

@All_Mighty_Beyonder: Where is the full movie at?

not yet, 30 March 2013.

#38 Posted by honeyboi_chad (29 posts) - - Show Bio

SS3 Goku punching King Kai's planet which has 10x gravity because of it's mass:

The first calculation is figuring out the mass of the planet using gravity and radius since those are the two things we know.

The next step is Volume, using the radius.

And the third is density using the mass and volume we calced.

I also have links to a few calculators/convertors I checked the answers on.

Rearanged gravity formula to calculate mass instead (had to do short hand got formula from wikipedia) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surface_gravity

g = m/r^2

m = r^2 x g

Volume formula

V = (4/3) × pi × r^3

Density Formula

P = M/V

*Very good overall calculator

http://web2.0calc.com/

cm/g to m/kg calculator

http://www.unitjuggler.com/convert-dens ... perm3.html

Density calculator

http://www.smartconversion.com/unit_cal ... lator.aspx

Volume calculator

http://www.basic-mathematics.com/volume ... lator.html

Heres the actual calcs

g = m/r^2

m = r^2 x g

m = 0.0000156961230576^2 x 10

m = 0.0000000024636827904 earth masses

Earths mass = 5.97219 × 10^24 kilograms

5.97219 × 10^24 X 0.0000000024636827904 = 14,713,581,723,998,976

m = 14,713,581,723,998,976 kg

This considers King akis planet as 100m radius and 10X gravity.

The small number is the size of king kais planets radius in relation to Earths.

volume of a sphere is V = (4/3) × pi × r^3

V = (4/3) × pi × 100m^3 = 4188790.2047863905m^3

This is using King kais planet as 100m radius.

Knowing the mass and Volume we can get density.

P = M/V

P = 14713581723998976kg / 4188790.2047863905m^3

P = 3.512608892.9415128417291527 X 10^9 kg/m^3

Density of a white dwarf star: "The average density of matter in a white dwarf must therefore be, very roughly, 1,000,000 times greater than the average density of the Sun, or approximately 10^6 g/cm3." Which translates to 10^9 kg/m^3. So in other words it is over 3.5 times as dense as a white dwarf star.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_dwarf

If you don't believe this then I found some other calcs.

It doesn't matter here the dimension of the planet, but the density, since we are talking about a PUNCH, not a Ki blast.

King Kai's planet is not more than 30 meters in diameter (pixels-scaling), but even if it is 40, 50 or 90 meters, the order of magnitude, physically talking, is still the same (i.e. 10).

Now, gravitational force of a planet is given by this formula:

F = (G*M*m)/r^2

G is the universal gravitational constant (6,67*10^-11 [m^3/(kg*s^2)];

M is the mass of the planet

m is the generic reference mass

r is the radius of the planet (or distance between the two masses' centers)

Since King Kai's gravitational force is 10 times the Earth gravitational force, we have Fk (gravitational force of King Kai's planet) 10 times bigger than Fe (Earth's gravity).

Fk/Fe = [(G*Mk*m)/rk^2]/[(G*Me*m)/re^2] = 10

G and m are in commons and go away, so we have:

(Mk/rk^2)/(Me/re^2) = 10

Mass is Volume (V)*Density (D), with Volume (of a generical planet) = (4/3)*π*r^3;

back to the formula:

((4/3)*π*rk^3*Dk)/rk^2 = Fk and ((4/3)*π*re^3*De)/re^2 = Fe, so:

Fk/Fe = (Dk*rk)/(De*re) = 10.

The only unknown term is Dk (density of King Kai's planet), while we know De and re of Earth and rk = 15 meters (assuming a diameter of King Kai's planet of 30 m, as previously said).

So, Dk = 1,17*10^10 kg/m^3, while density of Earth (De) is 5,5153*10^3 kg/m^3, so the density of King Kai's planet is around 2 millions of times higher than the desnity of Earth, and Goku punched a whole hole throughout this material.

The most dense material known is Osmium, which has a density of 22661 kg/m^3, and, because of that, it's also the material which is most resistant to compression (462 GPa).

King Kai's planet is still half a million times more dense than this, and thus even way more resistant to physical compression.

Even if King Kai's planet had the same gravitational force as Earth, the fact it has such a small diameter would still imply a huge density, and indeed, it would still have a density around 200000 times bigger than the density of Earth.

Do you have some info about that planet destroyed by Gladiator?

Because it could be a planet 2 times bigger than Earth, but 100 times less dense, making this feat pale compared to Goku's striking punch.

Indeed, what really matters when talking about physical punches is the density, and AT, giving us a planet of a few meters of diameter and with a gravitational force 10 times bigger than the one on Earth, is indisputably giving us that previously said enormous level of density.

Imaging taking a cube of 1 meter of each side of the following materials:

- average Sun composition: it would weigh around 1,4 tons;

- average Earth composition: it would weigh around 5,5 tons;

- core of the Sun material: it would weigh 150 tons;

- King Kai's planet material: it would weigh around 10 millions tons;

- Neutron Star material: it would weigh around 280000 billions tons.

Punching the core of the Sun would obviously require inhuman physical strength, regardless of how much matter, in kg, you punch away; even worse would be just trying to physically scratch the surface of a Neutron Star.

Well, a not even bloodlusted Ssj3 Goku actually vaporizes, with one punch, a whole quantity of a material which, according to canon info about King Kai's planet, has thousands of times the density of the core of the Sun.

This is insane, literally insane.

Punching the Earth material for Goku would thus be a joke: for him, it would be like punching air, and the Earth would collapse on itself.

"Part of martial arts it to focus your inner energy, and that is exactly what has been stated over and over from time and time again in the series, and not just by Goku. This "focus of inner energy" is what allows them to pull planet shattering punches against opponents and not destroy the planet via excessive energy (i.e. shock-waves). Their energy is so focused that they are able to subconsciously control it without needed effort on a conscious level"

#39 Posted by Noone301994 (11142 posts) - - Show Bio

Wow spoiled the whole movie for me...