@kingjohnrocks:
I am 28 and I have been paying for an individual health care plan for 3 years, my premium was $185 when I started. It is now $179 as of the start of the Affordable Care Act. Please continue telling me how my premium went up %50.
I worked for Kroger (They sell groceries) between the years of 2005 and 2011. In 2007, Kroger had a policy in place that they would not schedule anyone over 32 hours a week unless they had 5 years seniority. Party City my current employer has a policy that they don't schedule associates more than 24 hours a week which has been in place since my boss started there 12 years ago. Please tell me how companies are just now screwing over employees hours.
Several of my university's professors have told me that they only include certain textbooks on the syllabus because the university makes them because they receive kickbacks from the publishers. I know this to be true because they never once used them during the course. Please tell me how Universities aren't always screwing people over.
What you are seeing here are opportunist businesses using this law to make a buck. They learned from Chick-Fil-A that if you take a ridiculous stand, idiot Republicans will just eat that up and give you a nice quarter. Maybe you should read that last article you posted the one about the Bakery. In that article they cite a survey that stated that 90% of businesses said that they were not going to make any changes in their scheduling due to the ACA. Thank you for posting an article that outright contradicts your entire point. Good job!
Again, compulsory auto insurance has lead to massive reduction in premiums over the last 30 years. Let's see if this government intrusion can do the same. People complained about compulsory auto insurance as well and see how that worked out.
@vaeternus:
Thanks for taking the time to click the easy to use reply button and spell my name correctly! It is such a courteous act.
You don't drive? What kind of American are you? So instead of driving you use Public Transportation (Nice try using the abbreviation PT to hide your shame)! You are the worst American ever. If Limbaugh or Hannity or Glenn Beck or Alex Jones
ever saw you using the devil's tunnels, they would immediately declare you a socialist communist who is destroying America. How dare you bandy the ideas of the Republican Party about when you suck from the teat of Bloomberg. You are the worst American I have ever seen. So you choose to spend your money on a socialized form of transportation that your taxes paid to build in the first place? Jeez, how do you not just rage and rage about it? How do you live with yourself? You are the very definition of Hypocrisy and as such nothing you say is of any value.
Explain the differences between Romneycare and the Affordable Care Act without mentioning how one applies to a country and one applies to a state. Afterall, Governors of States have no power to govern other states. I would also like you to cite the specific passages in the ACA that differ from Romneycare. When you inevitably can't, I'll accept your concession.
Apples and Oranges? Car Insurance deals with your car's health, Health insurance deals with your health. They are both forms of insurance and thus follow the same basic principles. One is compulsory and now the other is compulsory. They were both Republican Ideas started in the state of Massachusetts. Do I need to go on?
See how ridiculous it is when you ask ridiculous questions that all have a singular purpose because that is what you and yyoour cohorts have been doing for most of the thread. It is a stupid way to make a point so please stop doing it. Would it not have been simpler for me to just say what I mean?
@edamame:
This is untrue, health care costs are set by the specific hospitals Chargemaster and they differ from hospital to hospital even in the same region for the same things. What insurance companies do is negotiate lower prices, generally around 30% of the hospital's price for the item. I posted this article that details the ins and outs of the health care industry that explains just how messed up it is. Read it and you'll understand why the Affordable Care Act is needed.
You probably aren't in my state, where premiums have gone up 50.7% for TWENTY SEVEN and FIFTY year olds. Plus, people like you, the young and healthy (assuming you're healthy) will have to pay for someone else's health insurance. Do you really want to do that? Secondly, individuals are now REQUIRED by law to buy health insurance. What if they don't need it? What if they're healthy? Oh, and there's a penalty.
On Twitter a few weeks ago, the Washington Examiner's Justin Green asked why it was such a big deal to delay the individual mandate. After all, he noted, the penalty is just $95. How much could that possibly matter?
This is a common bit of confusion. The individual mandate's penalty is not $95 in year one. It's $95 or 1 percent of your taxable income, whichever is greater. So if you make $80,000 in taxable income, the penalty is $800.
What constitutional right does the Government have to do this? You may say that we are forced to do things everyday. Like we are forced to eat (which is false,) We are forced to follow laws, we are forced to do this, we are forced to do that. But let's stop jumping at straws here and aim at the facts, let's go over why Obamacare is bad ppolicy.
President Obama’s economic advisers originally had calculated that the bill would reduce health-care spending by $200 billion a year, from whence the president derived his intellectually indefensible conclusion that the bill would save the average family of four some $2,500 a year. Recently, the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services calculated that ACA will not reduce health-care spending at all and will instead add about $70 billion per year in the immediate future. Estimates of the program’s expense keep growing. It will spend more than originally estimated, it will tax more than originally estimated, and its vaunted deficit-reduction benefits have been evaporating at a pace suggesting that, as many predicted, they will never come to pass. In 2010, CBO projected that ACA would reduce the deficit by $140 billion through 2019; today that projection is a mere $4 billion. Connect the dots.
The estimated tax increases in the bill have doubled. That rising price tag means higher costs for consumers as well as taxpayers: The average 27-year-old man buying health insurance on the ACA exchanges can expect to pay almost double what he had been paying before; the average woman of the same age, 62 percent more.
Let's get into the nitty gritty.
Premium Increases on Working and Middle Class
President Obama hosted a Rose Garden event Monday where he incessantly repeated a talking point about health care now being more affordable. Certainly, for some, it will be, especially those joining the expanded Medicaid rolls.
But for many more millions among the working and middle class, premiums are going up, sometimes by as much as 50% to 150%. We are not talking about taxing the wealthy here, we are talking about everyday people, families, and small businesses.
Millions are about to have their standard of living hit and their ability to save for college and retirement undermined -- mostly because the government is forcing them to give up a health care premium they were happy with, and purchase another loaded with services they neither need nor want.
Keep in mind that all of this is happening to these families in a no-growth economy.
Source:
http://townhall.com/tipsheet/kevinglass/2013/10/17/study-obamacare-results-in-premium-increase-in-45-states-n1726211
As I said, in MY STATE, 50.7% increase in premiums for 27 and 50 year olds. This is disastourus, completely. Now, you liberals will say "YOU'VE BEEN LISTENING TO ALEX JONES, RUSH LIMBAUGH, SEAN HANNITY"...
Know what? You have all been listening to Martin Bashir, Chris Matthews and Ed Shultz, when you probably haven't. I also have a question: Why do businesses get a 1 year exemption, yet, citizens don't? Why do Politicians have their own private healthcare, including Obama, and are exempt to Obamacare? If it's so great, why not experience it for yourselves?
This is dreadfully bad policy, I know people who are suffering from this and suffering terribly. It should be REPEALED.
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