So, I know I'm late as hell, but I finally saw Dragonball Z: Battle of Gods. I have been putting it off because honestly, I'm not a huge DBZ fan. But now that I've seen it, I have to admit...the movie is HILARIOUS. I was laughing non stop and actually enjoyed the fights and plot. I haven't had this much fun with DBZ since the Cell Saga. This has now revitalized my interest in the franchise and has gotten me hyped for future products if they are of this quality (both humor and animation wise).
For the first time in a decade, I'm back on the DBZ hype train, woo, wooooo!
PS, Beerus is now my favorite DBZ villain. Anyone who can go from zero to genocidal over pudding has my approval.
That's good lol just don't tell me that "God Goku can beat any legitimate form of Superman" and we have no problems >.>
Side note: Hope they do more with Gohan, Goten and Trunks
Beerus can destroy a galaxy in the blink of an eye. Can Superman do that? Maybe. There's was that time PC Superman blew out a star with his breath alone.
That's good lol just don't tell me that "God Goku can beat any legitimate form of Superman" and we have no problems >.>
Side note: Hope they do more with Gohan, Goten and Trunks
Beerus can destroy a galaxy in the blink of an eye. Can Superman do that? Maybe. There's was that time PC Superman blew out a star with his breath alone.
What does Beerus have to do with Goku. That said can you show me Beerus blinking a galaxy out of existence not using abc logic, fan calcs, powerscaling, or unsupported statements?
That's good lol just don't tell me that "God Goku can beat any legitimate form of Superman" and we have no problems >.>
Side note: Hope they do more with Gohan, Goten and Trunks
Beerus can destroy a galaxy in the blink of an eye. Can Superman do that? Maybe. There's was that time PC Superman blew out a star with his breath alone.
What does Beerus have to do with Goku. That said can you show me Beerus blinking a galaxy out of existence not using abc logic, fan calcs, powerscaling, or unsupported statements?
Why are these invalid? Seriously, give me a plausible explanation. Guide book.
That's good lol just don't tell me that "God Goku can beat any legitimate form of Superman" and we have no problems >.>
Side note: Hope they do more with Gohan, Goten and Trunks
Beerus can destroy a galaxy in the blink of an eye. Can Superman do that? Maybe. There's was that time PC Superman blew out a star with his breath alone.
What does Beerus have to do with Goku. That said can you show me Beerus blinking a galaxy out of existence not using abc logic, fan calcs, powerscaling, or unsupported statements?
Why are these invalid? Seriously, give me a plausible explanation. Guide book.
They are invalid because there aren't feats to back up any claims to be made . Feats>all of these. Aside from that all of these are faulty because not only do different people get different things but it can be inconsistent and finally they hold no merit without proof. You can tell that Goku has universal + durability and then I can ask you to show me a feat of Goku surviving a universal level explosion, then you have to resort to one of the four I listed and then I could simply go to the manga(revival of F) and show you a scan where Goku admitted that he and Vegeta would die if the got hit by a no name ki blast from Beerus that wiped out a small sun. At that point my scan makes my statement more valid than yours because I showed you where the character himself admitted he would die. With that you'd have 2 options, either tell me that I've taken the scan out of context which I could easily refute by saying that we all know for a fact Goku does not lie. The second option would be to say that the scan itself has been mistranslated since most likely the scan online is a fan translation. Hope that explained it
That's good lol just don't tell me that "God Goku can beat any legitimate form of Superman" and we have no problems >.>
Side note: Hope they do more with Gohan, Goten and Trunks
Beerus can destroy a galaxy in the blink of an eye. Can Superman do that? Maybe. There's was that time PC Superman blew out a star with his breath alone.
What does Beerus have to do with Goku. That said can you show me Beerus blinking a galaxy out of existence not using abc logic, fan calcs, powerscaling, or unsupported statements?
Why are these invalid? Seriously, give me a plausible explanation. Guide book.
They are invalid because there aren't feats to back up any claims to be made . Feats>all of these. Aside from that all of these are faulty because not only do different people get different things but it can be inconsistent and finally they hold no merit without proof. You can tell that Goku has universal + durability and then I can ask you to show me a feat of Goku surviving a universal level explosion, then you have to resort to one of the four I listed and then I could simply go to the manga(revival of F) and show you a scan where Goku admitted that he and Vegeta would die if the got hit by a no name ki blast from Beerus that wiped out a small sun. At that point my scan makes my statement more valid than yours because I showed you where the character himself admitted he would die. With that you'd have 2 options, either tell me that I've taken the scan out of context which I could easily refute by saying that we all know for a fact Goku does not lie. The second option would be to say that the scan itself has been mistranslated since most likely the scan online is a fan translation. Hope that explained it
Not needed when Toriyama works with powerscaling most of the time.
True, but all of their powers come from chi, wich can be measured and brings a whole powerset along with it. To dumb it down, if character A can destroy a planet at a certain power level, so can character B, who dwarfs character's A power level.
No one ever said that.
And what's the problem with that?
Good to know, but i'm sure they were in base form when they said that.
And you still haven't given me a plausible explanation of why abc logic, powescaling and fan calcs should not be used.
That's good lol just don't tell me that "God Goku can beat any legitimate form of Superman" and we have no problems >.>
Side note: Hope they do more with Gohan, Goten and Trunks
Beerus can destroy a galaxy in the blink of an eye. Can Superman do that? Maybe. There's was that time PC Superman blew out a star with his breath alone.
What does Beerus have to do with Goku. That said can you show me Beerus blinking a galaxy out of existence not using abc logic, fan calcs, powerscaling, or unsupported statements?
Why are these invalid? Seriously, give me a plausible explanation. Guide book.
They are invalid because there aren't feats to back up any claims to be made . Feats>all of these. Aside from that all of these are faulty because not only do different people get different things but it can be inconsistent and finally they hold no merit without proof. You can tell that Goku has universal + durability and then I can ask you to show me a feat of Goku surviving a universal level explosion, then you have to resort to one of the four I listed and then I could simply go to the manga(revival of F) and show you a scan where Goku admitted that he and Vegeta would die if the got hit by a no name ki blast from Beerus that wiped out a small sun. At that point my scan makes my statement more valid than yours because I showed you where the character himself admitted he would die. With that you'd have 2 options, either tell me that I've taken the scan out of context which I could easily refute by saying that we all know for a fact Goku does not lie. The second option would be to say that the scan itself has been mistranslated since most likely the scan online is a fan translation. Hope that explained it
Not needed when Toriyama works with powerscaling most of the time.
True, but all of their powers come from chi, wich can be measured and brings a whole powerset along with it. To dumb it down, if character A can destroy a planet at a certain power level, so can character B, who dwarfs character's A power level.
No one ever said that.
And what's the problem with that?
Good to know, but i'm sure they were in base form when they said that.
And you still haven't given me a plausible explanation of why abc logic, powescaling and fan calcs should not be used.
I just told you why they shouldn't be use but to simplify it, it's because they aren't reliable and because again hey can be contradicting as different thus contradictions are had and yes they were in "base" form when saying that BUT according to powerscaling and fan calcs, Goku's base form during his training after he absorbed God Ki>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Goku ssj (Trunks saga)>> Goku ssj(planet Namek)>100% Frieza. Now using your second bulletin as an example Goku should be able to survive a planetary explosion simply because he's stronger than Frieza right? Well using that logic Goku(Whis training) should be able to easily survive some random ki blast that destroyed a small sun but through his own self admittance he would have died. That's why those shouldn't be used, how much more of an explanation can give you? Feats>everything. I can tell you right now that Bridget El Satellizer from Freezing is FTL but why should you believe me? Because I can give you a bunch of numbers from a random person like me, or because I said well this person can do this and she's stronger than this person so by the law of transverse that must mean that this character can do it too? No. They are two different characters and even if they use the same energy it doesn't mean they can do the same thing. A perfect example of this is Naruto. Naruto and Bee both use chakra and both are Jinchurriki but while Naruto can do just about everything Bee can, Bee has never shown the ability to cloak himself in gold like Naruto
They are if you're paying attention to the context.
yes they were in "base" form when saying that BUT according to powerscaling and fan calcs, Goku's base form during his training after he absorbed God Ki>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Goku ssj (Trunks saga)>> Goku ssj(planet Namek)>100% Frieza
Yeah, i forgot about that. But i still have proof there were no inconsistencies(gonna show them next..
Now using your second bulletin as an example Goku should be able to survive a planetary explosion simply because he's stronger than Frieza, right? Well using that logic Goku(Whis training) should be able to easily survive some random ki blast that destroyed a small sun but through his own self admittance he would have died.
You're taking that horribly out of context.
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Both of them weren't combat ready, therefore, weren't using chi to enhance their durability. So yeah, that blast would totally have killed them at that moment. The third scan is there just to further support my point.
That's why those shouldn't be used, how much more of an explanation can give you?
No inconsistencies, no reason they shouldn't be used :)
Feats>everything.
AK works with powerscaling, wich is totally valid.
I can tell you right now that Bridget El Satellizer from Freezing is FTL but why should you believe me? Because I can give you a bunch of numbers from a random person like me, or because I said well this person can do this and she's stronger than this person so by the law of transverse that must mean that this character can do it too? No
If you can provide some kind evidence supported by elements of the story or the author himself stated it was FTL, i would totally believe you
They are two different characters and even if they use the same energy it doesn't mean they can do the same thing. A perfect example of this is Naruto. Naruto and Bee both use chakra and both are Jinchurriki but while Naruto can do just about everything Bee can, Bee has never shown the ability to cloak himself in gold like Naruto
You have to build a powerset around chakra, chi, however, alredy has a defined powerset alongside it.
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