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Posted by BlackopsX21 (274 posts) 1 year, 4 months ago

Poll: Should We Comic VIne Once Again Accept Goku Threads (Vote) (66 votes)

Yes 26%
No 32%
Goku Threads Should Keep Being Banned 29%
No Never 14%

Why or Why Not

#1 Edited by nerdork (4038 posts) - - Show Bio

Not until the Viners debating pro Goku can act like mature human beings, not petulant children whom get offended at every rebuke.

#2 Posted by Lvenger (20058 posts) - - Show Bio

@nerdork said:

Not until the Viners debating pro Goku can act like mature human beings, not petulant children whom get offended at every rebuke.

Seconded times a hundred. I'm a big DBZ fan but most DBZ fans can't debate properly. Only a few on here can be trusted with their DBZ knowledge which is a shame.

#3 Posted by dccomicsrule2011 (25014 posts) - - Show Bio

Hmm I say no for now.

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#5 Posted by nerdork (4038 posts) - - Show Bio

@lvenger said:

@nerdork said:

Not until the Viners debating pro Goku can act like mature human beings, not petulant children whom get offended at every rebuke.

Seconded times a hundred. I'm a big DBZ fan but most DBZ fans can't debate properly. Only a few on here can be trusted with their DBZ knowledge which is a shame.

A huge shame. I would love to learn more about DBZ via the Battle Forum, as there are some very great match-ups to made I am sure; but like you stated, most DBZ fans on CV dont argue properly...at all, or want to make spite threads.

#6 Posted by pooty (11202 posts) - - Show Bio

DBZ vs Comic threads should only be allowed in " Challenge A Viner". Even if it's a two vs two CAV.

#7 Posted by Lvenger (20058 posts) - - Show Bio

@nerdork said:

@lvenger said:

@nerdork said:

Not until the Viners debating pro Goku can act like mature human beings, not petulant children whom get offended at every rebuke.

Seconded times a hundred. I'm a big DBZ fan but most DBZ fans can't debate properly. Only a few on here can be trusted with their DBZ knowledge which is a shame.

A huge shame. I would love to learn more about DBZ via the Battle Forum, as there are some very great match-ups to made I am sure; but like you stated, most DBZ fans on CV dont argue properly...at all, or want to make spite threads.

I know some Viners who have made some excellent DBZ posts. I can link you to some of their stuff if you want to learn more.

#8 Edited by BlackopsX21 (274 posts) - - Show Bio

Once We have the Bars Full if its says No we shoudnt or it should keep being banned if it says yes full bar befor the others ill try to persuade them to get it back lol It probaly wont work but its worth a try

#9 Edited by nerdork (4038 posts) - - Show Bio

@lvenger said:

@nerdork said:

@lvenger said:

@nerdork said:

Not until the Viners debating pro Goku can act like mature human beings, not petulant children whom get offended at every rebuke.

Seconded times a hundred. I'm a big DBZ fan but most DBZ fans can't debate properly. Only a few on here can be trusted with their DBZ knowledge which is a shame.

A huge shame. I would love to learn more about DBZ via the Battle Forum, as there are some very great match-ups to made I am sure; but like you stated, most DBZ fans on CV dont argue properly...at all, or want to make spite threads.

I know some Viners who have made some excellent DBZ posts. I can link you to some of their stuff if you want to learn more.

Yeah, thanks, that would be cool. I always like to read well written posts in the battle forum.

#10 Edited by Lvenger (20058 posts) - - Show Bio

@nerdork: This is a really good debate between Neongamewave and CadenceV2 about Master Roshi and another character called Genkai

http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles-7/cav-cadencev2-genkai-vs-neongamewave-roshi-open-to-1455699/

I'd also advise checking out the Discuss and Debunk a Feat With A Viner thread as there's a good section about DBZ energy projection levels. All of the DBZ battle threads are locked but finding the right ones will mean you get to see at least some gems of DBZ knowledge amongst the fanboy bias.

#11 Edited by nerdork (4038 posts) - - Show Bio

@lvenger: Thanks, i cant wait to dive into this when i get home from work.

#12 Posted by BlackopsX21 (274 posts) - - Show Bio

I Think so i hate the lack of Goku Thread threw out the Universe of comic Vine

#13 Edited by russellmania77 (15452 posts) - - Show Bio

yes, there are gonna be trolls either way

#14 Posted by Mercy_ (92708 posts) - - Show Bio

This isn't up for public vote or debate. The mods made a ruling and it stands.

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#15 Posted by BlackopsX21 (274 posts) - - Show Bio

Well right now its not a balanced vote people dont want aymore Goku threads lol Unless others Have another Opinion

#16 Posted by Z3RO180 (6563 posts) - - Show Bio

No they just bring about pointless arguments that then just devolve into name calling and trolling.

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#17 Posted by deadpoolrules (4683 posts) - - Show Bio

Yes,because there are reasonable DBZ fans.

BUT GOKU,WIN AND I REPEAT STOMP EVERYONE IN THE COMIC/GAMING/BOOKS UNIVERSES,HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

#18 Posted by God_Spawn (37908 posts) - - Show Bio

The Battle Forum Trinity decreed...no. Sooooo, naaaaah. Not until both sides can handle it.

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#19 Posted by BlackopsX21 (274 posts) - - Show Bio

Please can u guys tell me How can a couple of teens or adults argue over a pitty character "NO OFFENCE TO Goku" Out Of A Television Set or Comci Book

#20 Edited by End_Boss (738 posts) - - Show Bio

This is easily my most used .gif on Comic Vine.

This thread is mad dumb.

#21 Posted by BlackopsX21 (274 posts) - - Show Bio

Plz dont come on a Thread and use a annoying meme or gimic that is insulting to a thread Please And Thank You

#22 Posted by Supreme Marvel (11264 posts) - - Show Bio

I love Dragon Ball, but I can't stand majority of it's fans. Above half of them have no clue of their limitations.

#23 Posted by BlackopsX21 (274 posts) - - Show Bio

Lol we think the same lol

#24 Edited by deaditegonzo (3686 posts) - - Show Bio

"By my calculations, Goku had a power level of 10 ^37 by the Babidi saga, dividing that by Roshi's power in Dragon Ball which allowed him to destroy Earth's moon, Goku should have collapsed into a multiverse destroying singularity years ago."

Really, who misses this!? It makes me feel bad as a DBZ fan, to see such stupid, nonsensical points brought up in a debate. I say DBZ threads should be banned, unless there is somebody that can debate the Goku side within the rules of forum debating (using evidence and canon materials; not power scaling or pure ABC logic).

#25 Edited by The Stegman (24487 posts) - - Show Bio

"By my calculations, Goku had a power level of 10 ^37 by the Babidi saga, dividing that by Roshi's power in Dragon Ball which allowed him to destroy Earth's moon, Goku should have collapsed into a multiverse destroying singularity years ago."

Really, who misses this!? It makes me feel bad as a DBZ fan, to see such stupid, nonsensical points brought up in a debate. I say DBZ threads should be banned, unless there somebody can debate the Goku side within the rules of forum debating (using evidence and canon materials; not power scaling or pure ABC logic).

So

Much

This.

#26 Posted by OmgOmgWtfWtf (7031 posts) - - Show Bio

The epic trolling of power level math is what bothered me the most.

#27 Edited by The_Lunact_And_Manic (3286 posts) - - Show Bio

@deaditegonzo said:

"By my calculations, Goku had a power level of 10 ^37 by the Babidi saga, dividing that by Roshi's power in Dragon Ball which allowed him to destroy Earth's moon, Goku should have collapsed into a multiverse destroying singularity years ago."

Really, who misses this!? It makes me feel bad as a DBZ fan, to see such stupid, nonsensical points brought up in a debate. I say DBZ threads should be banned, unless there somebody can debate the Goku side within the rules of forum debating (using evidence and canon materials; not power scaling or pure ABC logic).

#28 Edited by evilvegeta74 (4530 posts) - - Show Bio

Yeah Goku should be allowed, but the threads need to be debated in a mature fashion, that goes both ways. DBZ fans get as outrageous as well as the fans of comic characters.

#29 Posted by ThatGuyWithHeadPhones (11152 posts) - - Show Bio

No

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#30 Posted by BlackopsX21 (274 posts) - - Show Bio
#31 Posted by Chibi_cute (4547 posts) - - Show Bio

Yeah Goku should be allowed, but the threads need to be debated in a mature fashion, that goes both ways. DBZ fans get as outrageous as well as the fans of comic characters.

THIS.

its not just the dbz fans who are being unreasonable but comic fans as well.

They can't accept the fact that their favorite superhero will get defeated by an anime character.

#32 Posted by TheGreyOutcastX (2051 posts) - - Show Bio

"By my calculations, Goku had a power level of 10 ^37 by the Babidi saga, dividing that by Roshi's power in Dragon Ball which allowed him to destroy Earth's moon, Goku should have collapsed into a multiverse destroying singularity years ago."

Really, who misses this!? It makes me feel bad as a DBZ fan, to see such stupid, nonsensical points brought up in a debate. I say DBZ threads should be banned, unless there somebody can debate the Goku side within the rules of forum debating (using evidence and canon materials; not power scaling or pure ABC logic).

#33 Posted by russellmania77 (15452 posts) - - Show Bio

nobody from dbz to battle anybody even almost resembling superman should be the rule maybe

#hashtag

#34 Posted by JediXMan (30663 posts) - - Show Bio

It's because of DBZ that Anime was banned for so long. No, I don't want to see DBZ return. I for one am glad to see Anime vs Comics battles that don't involve DBZ.

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#35 Edited by Sideslash (5907 posts) - - Show Bio

A few main problems:

  1. They often devolve into name calling, insults, etc.
  2. It takes away from other, sometimes what I would consider better anime/manga, by clogging the boards with "Goku vs Superman"
  3. Among DBZ fans, powerscaling is rampant, and is far more prevalent than use of actual feats, which is the favoured leaning of comic fans, such as myself, as this helps with concrete evidence of their capabilities.

(For example in point 3:

  • Comic Fan: Superman has benched 5.792 quintillion metric tons. This is the estimated approximate mass of the Earth. Given this, Superman has the necessary strength to move the Earth (often with a scan first or last)
  • DBZ fan: Goku has a *insert stupidly high number here* power level. Master Roshi had *enter much lower number here* PL when he destroyed the moon. Since Goku's is 400 million times Master Roshi's he could destroy 400 million moons. The Earth is eight times the size of the moon, Goku could destroy 500,000 Earths. (No scans, very little evidence outside of the statement).

I don't mean to complain, since comic fans, myself included, can get OTT when tempers rise).

#36 Posted by Nerx (15088 posts) - - Show Bio

No, we should have a 'final solution' that section of the battles. Kill it before it lays eggs.

#37 Posted by Betatesthighlander1 (7462 posts) - - Show Bio

I think they should be allowed, but it is kind of tricky to stop the devolution into name calling and citing feats that never actually happenned

("Darseid can use the Omega effect instantly from anywhere in the universe!""yeah, well SSJ3 Goku can destroy the universe!)

#38 Posted by mrdecepticonleader (18096 posts) - - Show Bio

I do not care.

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#39 Posted by End_Boss (738 posts) - - Show Bio
#40 Edited by XImpossibruX (5174 posts) - - Show Bio

Until Comicvine grows up past the Superman vs Goku phase of Manga vs Comics, then no.

It was never Goku's fault, or DBZ, it's the debators. Blaming the shitstorms on a franchise is weak.

Remember Thor vs Wonder Woman or Storm vs Wonder Woman? GIANT shitstorms! so I guess blame it on the WW fans and ban WW threads..... no.

Like I said, it's incredibly silly to blame it on Goku or DBZ.

#41 Posted by RedLanternSuperman (348 posts) - - Show Bio

DBZ fan make a stupid statement, haters reply with insults, or vice versa.

Point is, it was never the characters, but more the immature idiots in the thread. Until this site matures, a few less shi*tstorms should do the vine some good.

Sorry Goku, but i'm gonna have to vote no.

#42 Edited by PrinceAragorn1 (17523 posts) - - Show Bio

Unless Both sides learn to take things maturely, no.

#43 Posted by Uncanny_Doom (457 posts) - - Show Bio

I like DBZ but I feel like it's so...inconsistent in the way it displays it's character power that debating it is kind of futile.

#44 Edited by InnerSuperman (858 posts) - - Show Bio

@mercy_: the people should not fear the government, the government should fear the people.

#45 Posted by Shirzad (391 posts) - - Show Bio

DBZ battles were just more trouble then they were worth. Perhaps someday that may change, but that day isn't here yet.

#46 Posted by Urban_Ronin (9935 posts) - - Show Bio

There's always Animevice

#47 Edited by Saren (25691 posts) - - Show Bio

Nope. DBZ threads suck.

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#48 Edited by TheWholeDamnShow (758 posts) - - Show Bio

We aren't yet ready for that power.

#49 Posted by TDK_1997 (14899 posts) - - Show Bio

No.Because if they come back there won't be a normal conversation or a debate in them.

#50 Edited by drgnx (3564 posts) - - Show Bio

"Yes" with a "but", "no" with "maybe"!