Should "Agents of SHIELD" be cancelled?

Because it adds to the realism of a show. In the real world, sex is a thing and so is violence, violence is especially a thing in a show about superheroes, but if a show is heavily censored, it hampers any true potential it can have. When the biggest swear word you can use is "damn or hell" when the most violence you can show is someone being punched, when sex is constantly tied together with "being in love" or limited to "passionate kissing" you start to lose interest in the show. Audiences like programming that excites them, not something that treats every subject matter with delicate care and sugar coats themes and actions.

i honestly think BOTH shows are whack. Arrow is overrated and AoShield is equally as bad as Arrow. but... whatever.

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@tazzmission: Nowhere did I say it had to be hardcore sex and violence, I'm not asking for Skye to show her boobs or have limbs being hacked off, but completely censoring out any sex or violence makes the show seem cheesy. Having the dialogue be riddled with jokes instead of covering any larger topics or themes makes me question why I even watch it. Let's take The Walking Dead for example. Yes, the comic that it's based off of is mature, but the show found a perfect balence of realism and fiction. It shows violence and what people are capable of, the dialogue is more engaging, it tackles larger themes instead of simpler ones like AoS does. I'm not saying being on ABC is the ONLY problem with the show, surely the writers have to improve. But to say that being on a network has nothing to do with a show's quality (which was your original point) isn't exactly true.

I don't see how Ward or May actually getting it 'on' on screen is going to make it less cheesy. I've seen enough grey lensed sex scenes Battlestar and SGU to last a life time.

ok first off everyone really needs to get a clue and understand everything you see in a comic isnt always going to transition to the small or big screen . thats one of the biggest annoying things i have seen fans say. oh marvels doing this and the title will be that so its going to be 100% exactly like the comic. no it isnt. as far as walking dead is concerned i dont care for it simply because i dont drink the zombie kool-aid and if i wanted to see real brain dead zombies i would go watch c-span. aos dosent really tackle anything honestly. i like joss i really do but 6 episodes in i can say i hate the show. people dont want to admit its bad because omg its joss weadon just like how nobody will admit dark knight rises was bad because nolans name is on it.

its the truth

i had some jack ass tell me i know nothing about writting anything and yet im related to robert lewis stevenson who did treasure island so i know a thing or two. im not saying im 100% right but i know a shitty show when i see one let alone horrible writting

Agents of SHIELD is complete crap. I can't stand it. They try so hard to make Skye/Chloe Bennett the "hot star" of the show but she's not. She's not hot or funny, she can't even act.

With that said, I don't know why people on this site think that Arrow is perfect compared to AoS - it's not. As good a comic-book show Arrow is, it's not a good Television Show... People make Arrow sound like it's golden and eventually it becomes hilarious. "Make Arrow apart of the DCCU, it's PERFECT!!!!!", "Make Zod appear on the season finale, the quality is clearly as good as Man of Steel, DC IS WINNING!"...

Oh and should I mention the ridiculous costumes or characters in general? Black Canary, Merlyn (and the League), Bronze Tiger, Deadshot... Just a few names that come to mind.

The acting isn't any better either - that's the only part where I would consider Agents of SHIELD to be superior. Stephen Amell is so plain, the dude is always stuttering. On twitter or in public, he acts like he's good enough to be in a Justice League film alongside Ben Affleck or Amy Adams - he's not! He sucks. Physically, he's great in the role but acting wise he is just terrible. Same goes for most of the cast (Thea, Roy, GOD this is supposed to be about Oliver Queen/GA not stupid teenagers-- oh wait, it is if it's on The CW...).

I stopped watching it.

The show is garbage..It's filled with cheesy jokes and bland characterizations...I stopped watching it...It's waste of time...

@tazzmission: Lol CW is a family network? Okay.

No, even though I don't watch it.

Cancel it. The show is lukewarm at best and you don't need to worry about changing continuity.

I like it, and even if they do cancel it, Disney will just reboot it.

I've only watched 2/4 of a episode(In english) and i stopped(for some ramdom reasons).

i watched the pilot and second episode. too camp. the wiff and i were hoping it was going to be like the sharon carter short. and if they were going for comedy, misfits (seasons 1-2) is a better example of humor with superpowers.

arrow is pretty terrible too though.

They can still save this show. All they need to do is kill off Ward, Sky, and maybe one of those science cliches and add more colourful additions. I don't just mean skin colour wise, which they still need to do, but also personality wise. It seems that most of the characters besides Coulson are all cardboard cut-outs of tv tropes. With a more expanded, diverse, and original cast, this show will vastly improve.

Also, give us a central villain! I don't know why Hydra hasn't been introduced yet....

I see what you're saying, but I think the reason why people bump up "Arrow" to such high levels is because to many people, it's a chance to get to see some of these characters they've never seen onscreen before come to life in a way they never have. People treated "Smallville" the exact same way and that was a lot worse then "Arrow" is. I think the quality is as good as it gets on a network like the CW - which is known for its campy, Soap Opera-type shows. The acting isn't great, but again, with Network TV you can't expect A-list level performances - but you do make a good point, Amell should be nowhere near the "Justice League" film and sometimes he does act abit like he should be bigger then he is.

I've personally liked all of the interpretations of the characters so far - Bronze Tiger played by Michael Jai White? That was perfect casting. I think they work with what they can and make the best out of it, and try to deliver something to the fans but keep it as mainstream as possible.

I'd say still give it a shot. It has its moments.

I'm too afraid to watch it, I think it looks just...bad in my opinion.

i like it, its not the best show but its fun

It's a horrible show I hope Everbody stops watching it so it could get cancelled already.

@darkbeam: If we're being honest other than Firefly all of Whedon shows start of kind of crappy. The first season of Buffy for instance while it ended well the first half of the season was pretty much s**t.

Yeah, good idea,failed attempt

@joshmightbe: I so agree.

@joshmightbe: Angel was good from the beginning...then again, it had the advantage of having come from Buffy.

@the_stegman: the first couple episodes were kind of iffy aside from Doyle, he was awesome and I was pissed when they offed him.

I totally agree with all of this especially Stephen Amell, his constant pushing of joining a potential Justice League movie. Didn't anyone tell him that Green Arrow as never an original member of the Justice League to begin with. And people acting like it's a missed opportunity that Arrow should be apart the cinematic DC universe has clearly got head in the cloud, cause its not on the same level as Man of Steel.

I don't know if it's his ego, but he should just stop talking about Justice League. Nobody even brings it up to him anymore, he just likes to gloat about it (like that stupid facebook post).

Honestly I wouldn't mind if Green Arrow was in a Justice League movie but it can't be Stephen Amell as Oliver. He can be the stunt double for Green Arrow, though :P

@lyrafay: Oh yeah and go to comicbookmovie.com and read the comments on any Arrow article. People praise every episode as if it's emmy-worthy and they love to make the show sound like it's on level with MoS. They're ideas about Zod appearing on a TV screen in the finale is ridiculous (yet smart, lol).

@joshmightbe: I loved all of season 1 and the noir feel it had. Plus the themes they discussed were great.

I watch both shows but I enjoy MAOS a little more. Both have Pros and Cons and could definitely improve. I think Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. has a little more upside though.

Arrow: definitely a more grim and gritty take on Green Arrow that IMO was better during the first season. I think it's pretty good with plot and mood but definitely crosses into the 'CW style' drama with teen angsty relationships and almost cringe worthy scoring sometimes. It goes from The Dark Knight to Dawson's Creek in a matter of seconds sometimes. It would help this series if we got more tension and less drama.

Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.: A more light hearted series than Arrow. Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. is more interconnected to the general Marvel cinematic universe than Arrow seems. I like the easter eggs and I think the team dynamic of the series is developing to a point where the character development can actually be a strong point of the series. What I can do without is the constant gags in the show. Part of the development of the show can be greater accelerated if we got less of the humor and more of the drama. I think this show can learn something from Arrow in that respect.

@tyrus: I haven't seen those. But if you go on tumblr, it gets worst. The reason I don't honestly watch it, is because of the non-comic fans who want to control and discontinue the comic book lore around it. It drives me crazy especially a certain group of shippers who have stolen the Green Arrow tag!

Folks today are spoiled.

When I was a kid all I had was Bill Bixby/Lou Ferrigno and Lynda Carter.

This is an "embarrassment of riches".

It took so long to get here and now some folks want to cancel these shows?

That's just crazy. Better support the genre (including the stuff you can't stand) or you may send a message that ends the trend.

Jersy Shore and the Kardashians is your future.