Sexual Insecurity

i was recently looking at an old thread and came upon one where i saw a lot of the male posters name calling and makin insinuations at the OP starter simply for asking an honest question. I realized the level of maturity took a massive drop from people that i thought were older and would be more mature , the question was a simple and honest question if a person felt that there was any good looking male movie stars in Hollywood of a particular ethnic group. I guess this question might be more readily answered by females and one would expect that to be the most likely people to reply, instead it seem a large number of guys were the 1st to come in and state how they are not homosexual and do not judge other men in appearance and attractiveness while eluding to the OP's sexuality and making fun of them for even asking the question.
 
I personally have no problems judging a man by their appearance, i am not a homosexual but i am not blind and can see what a woman would find attractive about another male. I dont think that is enough to make me question my sexuality since i believe i can be honest with myself and have no reason to pretend not to see another person's attractive qualities. I guess i would say i am secure in my manhood enough to say, "yeh, that dudes a good lookin cat, no wonder women like him."
 
I wont lie there have been times that i had been envious  of someone else other then myself for their looks, i have at times wished i were Brad Pitt, Will Smith so that i can live their lives and get the women that i wanted and have them come to me in droves. 
 
 
While reading the thread i noticed another poster stated why a guy cannot acknowledge another man's attractiveness but are readily able to harp on an ugly guy and make fun of them and used examples of certain celebrities that are just unattractive at least from the conventional sense, Flavor Flav. I agreed in that if a man can call someone ugly he is already judging a man's attractive qualities and he doesnt need to be attracted to him to do so.
 
Are these people extremely immature or are they insecure in their own sexuality and afraid to confront themselves or their deep seeded urges they might have?
thoughts, opinions, questions?

It's not always insecurity, it can be a learned response, from parents or that organised intellectual death camp known as High School. 
 
But yes, it's silly in any event.

 Are these people extremely immature or are they insecure in their own sexuality and afraid to confront themselves or their deep seeded urges they might have? thoughts, opinions, questions?

I see that kind of thing all the time. People afraid to be called gay and therefore are militantly against judging someone of the same sex (if they are a heterosexual) for fear of being judged. I think it is more about immaturity than insecurity though.
 

This reminds me of the time, I came across these orphaned three legged puppies, and these gangs, like, about 200 gangs, all throwing... grenades at the puppy, and so I walked up to them, and said... 'hey you guys stop' then they did, and then some supermodels came and made me the king of awesome. So yeah, I think its a bit of a societal thing, and an insecurity thing and a distortion of what common sense and common perceptions. Of and of course homophobia. Can't forget that. Sometimes there is even just thoughtless type mocking. Laziness in insults. Some times its a matter of perceptions. 

they say that it takes a man who's secure with his sexuality to actually look at another guy and say whether he's attractive or not

@Vortex13: hm I dont think he is good looking, he has a nice body but yea not good looking IMO

@spiderbat87 said:

@Vortex13: hm I dont think he is good looking, he has a nice body but yea not good looking IMO

Oh come on dude, HE'S F##KING WOLVERINE! lol.

@Vortex13 said:

@spiderbat87 said:

@Vortex13: hm I dont think he is good looking, he has a nice body but yea not good looking IMO

Oh come on dude, HE'S F##KING WOLVERINE! lol.

For lack of better words "he just dosent do it for me"

Great thread but yes most of it is immaturity of fear of being called gay and being viewed differently. I myself am not gay but I think that's just stupid.

I like being called gay by other people. You know that whole stereotype about gay guys having good fashion sense. Then again, I know my fashion sense sucks... its probably all the Blue Magazines I carry around. I like that magazine for the articles. 

@castleking: Honest question, what is with all the blogs? are you trying to build up something? (am being honest not picking on you)

I personally have no problems judging a man by their appearance, i am not a homosexual but i am not blind and can see what a woman would find attractive about another male. I dont think that is enough to make me question my sexuality since i believe i can be honest with myself and have no reason to pretend not to see another person's attractive qualities. I guess i would say i am secure in my manhood enough to say, "yeh, that dudes a good lookin cat, no wonder women like him."

More guys need to do this. I know that I'm not gay, but I do put my hands all over my other guy friends just to make them uncomfortable. It's fun. I mean I'm not gonna point out another guy and say that he is attractive, but I can accept that someone is good looking. I think most guys are just insecure and think that if they attack someone else it will make them more certain of their own sexuality, even though it won't.

@hydrabob said:

More guys need to do this. I know that I'm not gay, but I do put my hands all over my other guy friends just to make them uncomfortable. It's fun. I mean I'm not gonna point out another guy and say that he is attractive, but I can accept that someone is good looking. I think most guys are just insecure and think that if they attack someone else it will make them more certain of their own sexuality, even though it won't.

now that is just gay. 
 

pfft i'm a heterosexual man and i can honestly say, if i had the chance to date Jared Leto, i'd probably take it, you don't have to be gay to find a man attractive  
 

@castleking: Honest question, what is with all the blogs? are you trying to build up something? (am being honest not picking on you)

I personally like the blogs. I tend to disagree with a lot of things people say on here, but they usually give me things to think about at work. Case in point, it's going to give me much to think about when I'm snapping my male co-worker's underwear. Out of respect, of course.

I personally have no problems judging a man by their appearance, i am not a homosexual but i am not blind and can see what a woman would find attractive about another male. I dont think that is enough to make me question my sexuality since i believe i can be honest with myself and have no reason to pretend not to see another person's attractive qualities. I guess i would say i am secure in my manhood enough to say, "yeh, that dudes a good lookin cat, no wonder women like him."

@castleking: You're funny and sincere, I like that. 

@Mr. Mercury said:

@castleking: You're funny and sincere, I like that. 

cool, so long as it is not in a gay way... 

Girls check each other out all the time in a non-gay way, to see if, 'hey, is my butt as cute as hers?' or, "hey, are my eyes as sexy and alluring as hers" and, "does that guy really think that lipstick is hot?"  and even, "holy crap, there's a bunny on that t-shirt, I want it." 
 
I think there is a certain amount of not wanting to look gay, but i also think that sometimes there's a bit of a pride factor involved in it. "No way that guy is slightly more attractive than me!"  
 
And that's not to say that that's what everyone thinks or says or acts, I'm just throwing something out there. 

@Mr. Mercury:   just making fun of people who think any form of compliment from one person to another of the same gender might think it is gay. but, thx. i try to be sincere and make good threads even though at times not everyone agrees with my world views.  but, it is better to be hated for who you are then be loved for someone you are not. something someone once told me.

@Renchamp said:

@.Mistress Redhead. said:

@castleking: Honest question, what is with all the blogs? are you trying to build up something? (am being honest not picking on you)

This. I'm befuddled. They all seem like sociology experiments.

@Vance Astro said:

@.Mistress Redhead. said:

@castleking: Honest question, what is with all the blogs? are you trying to build up something? (am being honest not picking on you)

I was thinking the same thing MR.

I have a feeling he thinks we are picking on him (which of course we are not, these blogs are valid as anything else!), but I am honestly curious as he seems to be keen on them. Was wondering if it was part of some sort of bigger project or study, or simply a question of trying to build up Comic Vine's off topic section.

Not sure why we are not getting a reply though..

@castleking said:

@Mr. Mercury:   just making fun of people who think any form of compliment from one person to another of the same gender might think it is gay. but, thx. i try to be sincere and make good threads even though at times not everyone agrees with my world views.  but, it is better to be hated for who you are then be loved for someone you are not. something someone once told me.

Sounds like something on a fortune cookie.

@castleking: It's funny how conditioned we get as a society to become ignorant to human nature.  When you pick friends, do you go for the guys with greasy hair, acne, bad posture and terrible clothes. Or the guys with nice hair, big smiles, nice clothes and good skin. As much as we(guys) try to turn a blind eye to thinking a guy is attractive our actions say otherwise.   I like your blogs by the way. Post as many awesome topics as you like. I mean if somebody doesn't like they can scroll past it, simple as that.

lol you guy's are funny, What does It mean to be attractive?/ how do you get this perception of attractiveness?/ do you think you've gained this perception of attractiveness by yourself?

 "Yeah, he's a good looking guy." The reaction shouldn't be, "Man, you gay." I think it's petty, but that's just my opinion, we all have our own and I'm fine with that.

Girls check each other out all the time in a non-gay way, to see if, 'hey, is my butt as cute as hers?' or, "hey, are my eyes as sexy and alluring as hers" and, "does that guy really think that lipstick is hot?"  and even, "holy crap, there's a bunny on that t-shirt, I want it."  I think there is a certain amount of not wanting to look gay, but i also think that sometimes there's a bit of a pride factor involved in it. "No way that guy is slightly more attractive than me!"   And that's not to say that that's what everyone thinks or says or acts, I'm just throwing something out there. 

 
 

 I worked with a guy for a few years who is gay, and he thought it was funny to grab/touch all of the guys' arms/shoulders that he was friends with, just to see their reactions.  I thought it was a bit weird, but hilarious.

@whacknasty said:

 
 

 I worked with a guy for a few years who is gay, and he thought it was funny to grab/touch all of the guys' arms/shoulders that he was friends with, just to see their reactions.  I thought it was a bit weird, but hilarious.

also childish and if that isnt enough immature. >_>

lol you guy's are funny, What does It mean to be attractive?/ how do you get this perception of attractiveness?/ do you think you've gained this perception of attractiveness by yourself?

lol you guy's are funny, What does It mean to be attractive?/ how do you get this perception of attractiveness?/ do you think you've gained this perception of attractiveness by yourself?

I tend to think I know a good-looking guy when I see one.  And, I'm always asking input from my wife if I'm not sure.  You know, "Is that guy good looking?  Really?!"   That said, I still can't help a quote from Seinfeld being one of my favorites. 

Elaine: "You can't find beauty in a man?"
Jerry: "No.  I find them repugnant and unappealing." 
 
Classic.

@Mr. Mercury said:

 "Yeah, he's a good looking guy." The reaction shouldn't be, "Man, you gay." I think it's petty, but that's just my opinion, we all have our own and I'm fine with that.

I agree.I guess what I'm getting at is I don't see this as an issue because I don't know what other guys are talking about but it never comes up in my conversations not even with females.I agree that it's petty to not want to admit what you really think i'm just saying that if you're offering your opinion on men's looks for the hell of it, it's kind of gay. 
 
@TypingKira said:

Girls check each other out all the time in a non-gay way, to see if, 'hey, is my butt as cute as hers?' or, "hey, are my eyes as sexy and alluring as hers" and, "does that guy really think that lipstick is hot?"  and even, "holy crap, there's a bunny on that t-shirt, I want it."  I think there is a certain amount of not wanting to look gay, but i also think that sometimes there's a bit of a pride factor involved in it. "No way that guy is slightly more attractive than me!"   And that's not to say that that's what everyone thinks or says or acts, I'm just throwing something out there. 

That's an accepted double standard.For two girls to be comparing butts is kind of.....gay.Nobody is going to tell a woman that though.

@TypingKira said:

Girls check each other out all the time in a non-gay way, to see if, 'hey, is my butt as cute as hers?' or, "hey, are my eyes as sexy and alluring as hers" and, "does that guy really think that lipstick is hot?" and even, "holy crap, there's a bunny on that t-shirt, I want it." I think there is a certain amount of not wanting to look gay, but i also think that sometimes there's a bit of a pride factor involved in it. "No way that guy is slightly more attractive than me!" And that's not to say that that's what everyone thinks or says or acts, I'm just throwing something out there.

but women are also more likely to experiment with other women (or admit to it in a survey anyways), not that there's anything wrong with experimenting but while most of the people here (based on their posts) would probably argue that having sex with someone of the same sex is the most straight thing in the world, it's not

however, I won't deny inflated egos are probably a part of it