Republican Party of Texas STILL "batshit crazy"

Someone once defined insanity as doing the same thing- like trying to add two and two together- and trying to get an answer other than four.

A few years ago(2012) I wrote a blog post here entitled " Texas Republican Party goes "batsh!t crazy" ".

Look at the new GOP Texas platform I experienced an eerie sense of deja vu- same old, same old,unfettered right to bear arms, check, repeal Obamacare, check, withdraw from UN, World Bank , IMF(but oddly enough not NATO per se)check.

Presumably unaware that the very same year Barack Obama buried Mitt Romney, the "severely conservative" challenger who espoused many of these views, the Texas Republicans seem to think that the American electorate of 2016 will subcribe to these views.

Well for a start if the Texas GOP and the Republican Party in general wants the US to leave the UN and the UN to be removed from American soil, I say, OK- we'll pack our backs anr return New York to the backwater it was before the UN set up shop there back in the 1940s!

Terry

You never make good threads -_-

Barry didn't "bury" Romney. He won by barely over a 1% gain. Almost half the people who voted went for Romney, and Barry's ratings are approaching the 30's right now.

Keep in mind, the Texas GOP has turned the state into the country's second largest economy and now largest tech exporter in the country. You're an absolute buffoon if you think their economic prowess can be simply discarded as "batshit crazy".

Also, Romney never advocated leaving the UN, IMF, or World Bank. He's a venture capitalist who was totally in favor of staying in each organization. In fact, Romney wanted to continue to assert the influence of the IMF and World Bank to counter BRICS nation proposals to set up their own versions of both organizations. Romney also wanted to use the WTO (World Trade Organization) to sue China for currency manipulation and unfair trade practices. Dismissing Romney as "batshit crazy" and making fun of him doesn't change the fact that he had better management experience in nonprofit (Utah Olympics), government, and the private sector that Barry ever had, and will ever have. Romney also astutely warned that Russia would move to curb Ukraine before the EU deal went through, that Iraq would be split into the Sunni Anbar and surrounding provinces, and a Iran-backed presence in the Shia south, that China would continue to venture into foreign waters (they have set up drilling rigs in Vietnamese and Filipino waters, against international regulations), and that Barry would fail to do anything about any of it.

Good for them.

*whispers* nobody reads party platforms

Republicans gonna Republican and Democrats gonna Democrat.

@illuminatus: You're misinterpreting OPs statements on the Republican Party Of Texas and Mitt Romney. OP is stating that they have different views.
*shrug*

Why pick on Texas? Why not just the Republican Party?

Were they ever sane?

Why just pick on Republicans? Both them and Dems and have been proven to be in the pockets of corporations

Haha Republicans are really sh!tty if you think about. They are all ways talking that bullsh!t. They are batsh!t crazy. And they are full of sh!t. You try to point this out to them but they just don't give a sh!t.

Haha Democrats are really sh!tty if you think about. They are all ways talking that bullsh!t. They are batsh!t crazy. And they are full of sh!t. You try to point this out to them but they just don't give a sh!t.

See, from the other side of things, you're batsh!t crazy, but mostly it just makes you look like an ignorant fool.

Oh and to any liberal about to call me out on this, don't think I'm a republican. I'm not. I'm a communist.

False, OP equivocated that Romney espouses beliefs similar to his straw-man interpretations of the Texas GOP, a branch of the party that has enjoyed tremendous economic success that liberal governors in Democratic run states (Brown and Cuomo, primarily) still cannot fathom and replicate within their own states. Texas will surpass California within the decade, and the major metropolitan centers of Houston, Dallas-Fort Worth, and Austin will rival New York, Boston, and LA.

And, for anyone who assumes I'm a Texan, I'm actually a Californian. Job prospects for tech, business, and finance are all looking better in the long-term in GOP-run Texas.

From the OP:

Look at the new GOP Texas platform I experienced an eerie sense of deja vu- same old, same old,unfettered right to bear arms, check, repeal Obamacare, check, withdraw from UN, World Bank , IMF(but oddly enough not NATO per se)check.

Presumably unaware that the very same year Barack Obama buried Mitt Romney, the "severely conservative" challenger who espousedmany of theseviews, the Texas Republicans seem to think that the American electorate of 2016 will subcribe to these views.

lol

@illuminatus: "won by barely a 1% gain."

Why are you just making things up? Obama got 332 electoral votes to Romney's 206. If you're talking about the popular vote (which is meaningless anyways), you're still incorrect. Obama got 51.06%, true. I understand how you think that's only "barely a 1% gain." However, Romney only got 47.20%, according to the FEC as certified by Congress. Do remember that there are other candidates besides the 2 frontrunners.

@cable_extreme: The OP isn't very clear, but he's referring to the GOPs out of Texas who are backing Romney for 2016. That's why he's "picking on Texas."

@jaken7: ah I see

I'm making things up? You're the one incapable of properly using the quote function, or have next to zero reading comprehension, or just wholesale being disingenuous in regards to what I said. Get it straight.

What I actually said:

Barely over a 1% gain, not barely 1%. I don't know if you've taken a basic political science course, but anywhere between a 1% gain and a 5% is normally referred to as "barely over 1%" because the differences are marginal in terms of the popular vote. The reality is that Obama did not have the massive mandate the OP would have you believe with the "buried" nonsense. It's infantile to dismiss that many people who voted for Romney as espousing an ideology that he feels is "batshit crazy". Many people who voted for Romney are far incredibly well-educated, well-skilled people. I didn't reference the electoral college at all, so your attempt to come off as real clever by trying to disprove a platitude I never took the time to start is just sad. I also used the word "almost" in front of the word "half", clearly implying that, between the median value of 40 and 50%, which we will say is 45%, over 45% (otherwise known as "almost half") went for Romney. I made it pretty clear I was never saying that it was evenly split, or that Obama didn't win by a majority in the popular vote, and electoral college.

What US party do you feel represents your interests? I know the SP has been pretty marginalized, and the Communists haven't put anyone on a ticket since the 80's.

I've come across a few socialists that actually just vote for the Green Party now.

Albert Einstein, if memory serves.

@illuminatus: I'm on my phone, sweetheart. No quote function. You may not have mentioned the electoral college, but you also didn't mention the popular vote either. So what's your point?

When it comes down to nearly an even split (as you implied the election was...even though that's completely false) the difference between 1% and 4% is enormous. So dismissing his win as "barely OVER a 1% gain" is a little disingenuous.

I also find it really cute that you insist on arguing over something as meaningless as the popular vote. You want to argue over the ethical obligations of the Tooth Fairy next?

@illuminatus: I don't really fancy any of them, to be completely honest.

I just took a quiz (took a bloody half hour, but the website seemed pretty legit so I think it was worth it ) to find out which U.S. party has similar stances as me and here are my results:

Republicans 70%

on immigration, healthcare, and social issues. Click here to see why

Democrats 62%

on domestic policy, foreign policy, environmental, economic, and education issues. Click here to see why

Green Party 39%

on environmental, domestic policy, foreign policy, economic, and education issues. Click here to see why

Ugh politics

They're all crooks.

Buy me a beer

That quote is Albert Einstein, I believe. He said that the definition of insanity was doing the same thing and expecting different results. Of course, he made that definition up, but a lot of people seem to like it so good for him.

@paracelsus: Censor your thread titles in the future. Warning.

For all the batsh**t Democrats yelling about that Republicans are the cancer killing America, that they intend to shoot everyone with AR-15 Bible Firing Machine Guns while drinking Coors light and listening to country music, you'd half wonder why the states aren't burning already.

When in reality, states with Republican Governers are doing quite well.

As mentioned, Texas is experiencing significant population growth, has the lowest cost of living and lowest unemployment rate the in the country, and a suprisingly low crime rate, even with everyone and his dog packing a .45

Meanwhile, in Democrat Dreamland California, the state is almost 700 billion in the whole, running the highest unemployment rates in 30 years, and has no signs of ever improving.

Then theres Detriot. Thats what happens when people like OP are allowed to make decisions.

That's a quote's falsely attributed to him.

@cuddlebear: lol true.

@cgoodness: Agreed. I mean look at the new poll on Obama...but yes, most politicians suck.

@greatcaesarsghost@rd189 OP just enjoys the attention, but if you want a real laugh read this lol. Hey in other news, Obama is voted worst president in history and/or in modern times haha. Was going to make a thread of this topic, but too easy....

http://news.msn.com/us/us-poll-more-voters-see-obama-as-worst-president-in-modern-times

http://www.usatoday.com/story/theoval/2014/07/02/obama-george-w-bush-quinnipiac-poll-reagan-clinton/11985837/

No party is perfect, but I don't see the Republican party as "bats&#" crazy...guess in that case, more then 50% of the country would be considered such given the latest poll on Obama's job...

You can pick and choose your statistics as you like.

Texas as well as most Republican states are low in important things like literacy, education, healthcare, and per capita income.

And high in things like obesity, poverty, and ironically welfare. GOP states are as a whole much more dependent upon the Federal government, isn't that ironic.

I'm not even a Democrat, but I thought a more balanced picture is necessary.

Low cost of living doesn't help when per capita income is similarly low.

Education? Debatable, theres good schools in texas. I know friends who've went to texas university. Theres also less crime in pro gun conservative states vs. liberal ones. Education in usa in general needs work, not really a right vs. Left issue, but national. I live in ny, one of the most liberal yet horrible education issues.....

Poverty, education etc exists all over, its dumb to label that on a party.

They're at least better than the New York Democrats ;)

Many of the detractors of Obama on this topic seem to ignore(much as the Republicans, not just in Texas but nationwide) the fact that much of the issues he had to address as President were bequeathed to him by his predecessor George Bush(who was neither invited to the GOP convention or even referred to at the said convention)- the economy, Iraq and Afghanistan. John F. Kennedy once quoted Franklin D. Roosevelt on their mutual predecessor Abraham Lincoln- "a sad man because he couldn't get it all done during his presidency -and NO ONE can!"- politics is ultimately the art of the possible as both JFK and Otto von Bismarck noted. I may not agree with everything Obama says or does but he is WAY better than Bush.

Harry S. Truman once quipped that it took time to appreciate the achievements of a given Presidency-not just decades or even generations but in some cases centuries.

So I for one would be suspicious of claims that Obama is the "worst President ever"

Terry

@paracelsus: He's not the worst, but definitely top 5.

Seriously, 6 years in can't keep blaming Bush at this point....then I guess we'll see if a Rep president gets in next time then "have to blame Obama constantly, that'll work" then you'll say can't do that...sorry can't have it both ways. Obama has done a bad job, period. Texas actually has a booming economy with jobs now compared to a lot of liberal states(including mine which SUCKS job wise) I don't think he is better then Bush, Bush wasn't perfect but he didnt' screw up the country, cave to threats, put forth controversial healthcare which sucks anyway, so many other things I can go on about.

It's actually pretty cut and dry, various sources confirm Obama is the worst President since WWII which is pretty bad actually...but not really surprising. As far as everything I can see from an unbiased, uninfluenced perspective Obama has done much worse then Bush ever did...we're in more debt, worse economy, we still have troops over there(which Obama lied and said "elect me and I'll pull them out asap", horrible healthcare plan, banghazi incident, pipeline incident, releasing 5 terrorists for a deserter no less, cares nothing of the boarders. All of this and then some is NOT Bush's fault, it's Obama's. I think some folks need to stop watching MSNBC and listening to tools like Chris Matthews.

Not labeling it on a party.....just saying in comparison of red and blue states red ones tend to fall lower in education, and poverty. There are different levels of these things. Poverty exists everywhere, but some places are categorically better.

Fair enough, was just pointing out that sometimes these stats can be little misleading(not saying completely wrong just exagerrated) Education in general here I mean, in the USA has been lacking for years compared to other countries(regardless of red or blue states) I mean example I live in NYC, a very liberal city in a very liberal state/blue. Yet, the education here isn't the best, leaves something to be desired let's just say. One year I failed math, decided instead of an extra course next semester take it over the summer and they assigned a "gym" teacher to teach us...by mistake, I mean really? lol A gym sub no less, he was cool don't get me wrong but why the hell would the corriculum do that or make such a blunder? lol. They also have to make sure teachers follow one, example reason I failed was actually bogus. Yes, while I admit I hated advanced math the teacher failed me and others due to "her friday quizzes" but ignored the rest of the corriculum such as participation, finals, homework etc, etc. You're supposed to follow a standard(I know a friend who teaches as to how I know) yet some teachers don't, they play by their own rules which is nonsense....so I assure you, it's not just a red state thing. I'm sure it happens in red states too, but I live have always been in a blue state and the education leaves something to be desired....all I'm saying. Poverty, I don't study the exact numbers but I know it's a worldwide issue much less national.

Sometimes certain states they have higher or lower in red/blue in general, example while poverty may be higher in red states, crime is also lower in red states then blue states due to gun laws....not to open up that can of worms but it's true. Regardless of how people feel about guns, it's statistically proven states that allow guns or permits, gun laws vs. anti gun states have a lot less crime. Example, take Texas vs. Chicago....Chicago has a lot worse crime. *shrugs* either way, despite the rough time now there are other spots around the world much worse then we are so have to consider that right? I assume you're American?

The republicans in texas have caused some problems, but the economy isn't one of them. We have a strong business environment and lots of really friendly people. It's a good place to live.

@spitfirepanda: Yeah, I have some friends down there say it's good to live if you can handle the heat. Plus it's nice like you said, not state is perfect but yeah some places are easier to live than others. Here in NYC people are very edgy...lol and if you're not liberal you're look at like an alien or something.

@vaeternus: We've got out liberals out here, but they're good people. I worked in the library with two far left women in high school, and while we gave each other a hard time we still got along famously. My dad worked with a few liberals before he retired, and they got along great. It's all in how you look at people you disagree with. We're all people in the end.

As far as the state itself, we've got some gorgeous country, especially in the Dallas-Fort Worth/Austin areas. It does get hot in the summer, 100 degrees on average, and the winters have been really cold in the northern parts the last few years. But it's a pretty laid back state.

@spitfirepanda: cool, yeah I hear ya about differences in views, some states or areas I probably should say are more or less radical from my experience so far but I do have friends both conservative and liberal. Its all about respect.

Whats your favorite baseball team?

@vaeternus: We're football country. I don't really follow baseball.

@vaeternus:

Indeed I am American. I grew up just south of you in rural Pennsylvania although I am applying for a masters program in Germany.

I don't really have a side here. I am an independent, I like to consider each issue and make my own mind up about it.

In general I tend to be more liberal in social issues, foreign policy, and especially environmental issues, but moderately conservative in financial issues and a staunch supporter of gun rights.

For some reason though really stupid conservative politicians like Sarah Palin really irritate me.

I have friends at both ends of the spectrum, and I can appreciate different views.

@paracelsus: So how would you define Obama? "I inherited bad things and I didn't make them worse" wow that sounds great... BTW when it comes to Iraq obama made that one worse and when it comes to the economy their line is "coulda been worse" yeah Afganistan 2/3 of troop deaths in that war were under the command of obama. This administration has been a sinking ship since almost the moment obama was re-elected. Tell me what makes him so great? i am sincerely curious. to me he sounds like an ineffective loser at best and one of the worst presidents of the modern age at worst. one last thing... obama will be just as toxic in 2016 as bush was in 2008. he is pretty toxic as of right now actually.

@lunacyde: Cool, figured was just curious. Yeah, both parties have their better and worse people. I was an independent for many years but felt limited in certain things. Palin i feel indifferent, though I do think the media had it in for her, kind of feel the opposite for how they love obama with some exceptions that is. Im pretty much in the middle on some topics, conservative on others. Especially abortion, taxes and fighting terrorists. I was adopted at birth so you can probably imagine, my biological mother could have taken other routes but didnt. I was about to ask you that since ive noticed on some issues you seemed more liberal, others conservative.

@spitfirepanda: right, forgot haha. Here were more baseball town. But i have always liked country folks ;-)

Ah, I see. Thanks for pointing that out.