#51 Posted by Razor_ (64 posts) - - Show Bio

Pania says:

"Razor_ says:
"Does anyone believe in reincarnation (Just asking)"
I do. "

Do you mind telling me why? I mean I had those moments where I believed in it. But not to sure.

#52 Posted by Vrakmul (23398 posts) - - Show Bio

Razor_ says:

"Does anyone believe in reincarnation (Just asking)"

Does believing in parallel universes count? Because you may die in this universe, but another you will still be there.

#53 Posted by Chameleone (8710 posts) - - Show Bio

Dreadnaught says:

"Razor_ says:
"Does anyone believe in reincarnation (Just asking)"

Does believing in parallel universes count? Because you may die in this universe, but another you will still be there. "

If all you believe in is science. Can you prove those exist?

#54 Posted by Kiara_Sullivan (30074 posts) - - Show Bio

God gave MAN the power to stop Hitler. Think about it. God created us and we have come so far. He didnt intervene because he knew in the end that we had the power to stop him. it takes something so tragic for us to see the power we have united. This is why God did not stop Hitler. It was a lesson. Yes I know why teach a lesson that kills innocent people in the end. But if he hadnt do you thinkw e would have learned?

#55 Posted by Pania (1759 posts) - - Show Bio

Razor_ says:

Do you mind telling me why? I mean I had those moments where I believed in it. But not to sure."

It's a leap of faith. I just do. It "feels true" to me when I consider it.

If I was to put logic to it, it stems from my belief that the reason for human life is to learn and grow and become. It does not make sense then that a soul would only get an 80 year shot at learning and growing and then stop forever, be it through death or being stuck in a static and unchanging Heaven. No one can learn everything there is about this world, about life, in a single lifetime. You need thousands of lifetimes to understand human life completely.

#56 Posted by Vrakmul (23398 posts) - - Show Bio

chameleone says:

"Dreadnaught says:
"Razor_ says:
"Does anyone believe in reincarnation (Just asking)"

Does believing in parallel universes count? Because you may die in this universe, but another you will still be there. "

If all you believe in is science. Can you prove those exist?"

The universe is of finite size, there must be something outside it. It may be vast yes, but it reaches no further than 13.7-8 billion light years. It's a box, there is always something outside of that box.

#57 Posted by Chameleone (8710 posts) - - Show Bio

Kiara Sullivan says:

"God gave MAN the power to stop Hitler. Think about it. God created us and we have come so far. He didnt intervene because he knew in the end that we had the power to stop him. it takes something so tragic for us to see the power we have united. This is why God did not stop Hitler. It was a lesson. Yes I know why teach a lesson that kills innocent people in the end. But if he hadnt do you thinkw e would have learned?"

nice

#58 Posted by Sparda (15795 posts) - - Show Bio

Hey, before I leave for school.....

What do you all envision the afterlife as? As specific as possible....I'm wondering on the different views that people have and what each person thinks in relation to their personality. Or something.

See ya later.

#59 Posted by Pania (1759 posts) - - Show Bio

chameleone says:

And where have you gotten these numbers and information?"

http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/mystery_monday_040524.html

The universe is at least 156 billion light-years wide.

However, I think people must pay attention to the clause "at least", meaning we have no definitive measurement for the universe. It could be bigger. It could be much bigger. It could be infinite.

#60 Posted by Razor_ (64 posts) - - Show Bio

Dreadnaught says:

"Razor_ says:
"Does anyone believe in reincarnation (Just asking)"
Does believing in parallel universes count? Because you may die in this universe, but another you will still be there. "

I guess. Idk, I just wanted to know why people believe in reincarnation. Because I always wondered why people believed in it.

#61 Posted by Chameleone (8710 posts) - - Show Bio

Dreadnaught says:

"chameleone says:
"Dreadnaught says:
"Razor_ says:
"Does anyone believe in reincarnation (Just asking)"

Does believing in parallel universes count? Because you may die in this universe, but another you will still be there. "

If all you believe in is science. Can you prove those exist?"

The universe is of finite size, there must be something outside it. It may be vast yes, but it reaches no further than 13.7-8 billion light years. It's a box, there is always something outside of that box. "

And where have you gotten these numbers and information?

#62 Posted by Razor_ (64 posts) - - Show Bio

Pania says:

"Razor_ says:
Do you mind telling me why? I mean I had those moments where I believed in it. But not to sure."
It's a leap of faith. I just do. It "feels true" to me when I consider it. If I was to put logic to it, it stems from my belief that the reason for human life is to learn and grow and become. It does not make sense then that a soul would only get an 80 year shot at learning and growing and then stop forever, be it through death or being stuck in a static and unchanging Heaven. No one can learn everything there is about this world, about life, in a single lifetime. You need thousands of lifetimes to understand human life completely. "

That makes sense. Thanks for telling me.

#63 Posted by hell-spawn (121 posts) - - Show Bio

Sparda says:

"Hey, before I leave for school.....What do you all envision the afterlife as? As specific as possible....I'm wondering on the different views that people have and what each person thinks in relation to their personality. Or something.See ya later."

Its impossible to know this answer even if someone has died for a few minutes and seen the afterlife through their own eyes its impossible to know if it’s the same for everyone.

#64 Posted by Vrakmul (23398 posts) - - Show Bio

chameleone says:

"Dreadnaught says:
"chameleone says:
"Dreadnaught says:
"Razor_ says:
"Does anyone believe in reincarnation (Just asking)"

Does believing in parallel universes count? Because you may die in this universe, but another you will still be there. "

If all you believe in is science. Can you prove those exist?"

The universe is of finite size, there must be something outside it. It may be vast yes, but it reaches no further than 13.7-8 billion light years. It's a box, there is always something outside of that box. "

And where have you gotten these numbers and information?"


The farthest observed object was 13.7 billion light years away. We have yet to find anything beyond that.

#65 Posted by Chameleone (8710 posts) - - Show Bio

Sparda says:

"Hey, before I leave for school.....What do you all envision the afterlife as? As specific as possible....I'm wondering on the different views that people have and what each person thinks in relation to their personality. Or something.See ya later."

Absolute Paradise. In God's presence for eternity.

#66 Posted by Gideon (4 posts) - - Show Bio

Sparda says:

"Hey, before I leave for school.....What do you all envision the afterlife as? As specific as possible....I'm wondering on the different views that people have and what each person thinks in relation to their personality. Or something.See ya later."

truthfully I believe there is Heaven and Hell (though I don't know if I wish to go to either)

Heaven: a golden city where all people do is be happy and praise God

Hell: a place of utter darkness where you are forever alone and no matter how much you wish cannot die

#67 Posted by Chameleone (8710 posts) - - Show Bio

Pania says:

"chameleone says:
And where have you gotten these numbers and information?"

http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/mystery_monday_040524.html

The universe is at least 156 billion light-years wide.

However, I think people must pay attention to the clause "at least", meaning we have no definitive measurement for the universe. It could be bigger. It could be much bigger. It could be infinite.

"

That's what I'm saying. One report isn't enough to justify that for me.

#68 Posted by Copy (8336 posts) - - Show Bio

Heaven= A place full of virgins :) lol Sorry I had to do it.
Post Edited:2008-02-18 11:21:34

#69 Posted by Pania (1759 posts) - - Show Bio

Sparda says:

"Hey, before I leave for school.....What do you all envision the afterlife as? As specific as possible....I'm wondering on the different views that people have and what each person thinks in relation to their personality. Or something.See ya later."

I'm a reincarnationist, but I honestly think people should be more concerned about how they live this life than what they think will happen to them in the next.

People who have no pity of the destitute, lie, connive, stab their friends on the back, beat their kids, cheat on their taxes, cut people off in traffic, etc...but are obsessed with whether or not they are going to Heaven have their priorities very mixed up. Your going to heaven or hell or wherever regardless. Work on getting this life right, it's the only thing you actually have power over.


Post Edited:2008-02-18 11:24:21

#70 Posted by Chameleone (8710 posts) - - Show Bio

Dreadnaught says:

"chameleone says:
"Dreadnaught says:
"Razor_ says:
"Does anyone believe in reincarnation (Just asking)"

Does believing in parallel universes count? Because you may die in this universe, but another you will still be there. "

If all you believe in is science. Can you prove those exist?"

The universe is of finite size, there must be something outside it. It may be vast yes, but it reaches no further than 13.7-8 billion light years. It's a box, there is always something outside of that box. "

He's obviously getting his info from somewhere else if you say it's 13 billion and he says 157 billion

#71 Posted by Chameleone (8710 posts) - - Show Bio

Copy says:

"Heaven= A place full of virgins :) lol Sorry I had to do it.
Post Edited:2008-02-18 11:21:34"

Who said they were female virgins? Could be a bunch of 45 year old Trekkies :P

#72 Posted by Pania (1759 posts) - - Show Bio

Copy says:

"Heaven= A place full of virgins :) lol Sorry I had to do it.
Post Edited:2008-02-18 11:21:34"

And as the great Philosopher Williams said, "If you've ever been with a virgin, you're like "Uh...I dunno..."

#73 Posted by Fallen One (10 posts) - - Show Bio

chameleone says:

"Copy says:
"Heaven= A place full of virgins :) lol Sorry I had to do it.
Post Edited:2008-02-18 11:21:34"

Who said they were female virgins? Could be a bunch of 45 year old Trekkies :P"

who said he thought Heaven was a good place

#74 Posted by Copy (8336 posts) - - Show Bio

chameleone says:

"Copy says:
"Heaven= A place full of virgins :) lol Sorry I had to do it.
Post Edited:2008-02-18 11:21:34"
Who said they were female virgins? Could be a bunch of 45 year old Trekkies :P"

O_O

Only you would say there ain't only female virgins..... :)

#75 Posted by Copy (8336 posts) - - Show Bio

Waiting for someone to bring up scientology

#76 Posted by Chameleone (8710 posts) - - Show Bio

Fallen One says:

"chameleone says:
"Copy says:
"Heaven= A place full of virgins :) lol Sorry I had to do it.
Post Edited:2008-02-18 11:21:34"

Who said they were female virgins? Could be a bunch of 45 year old Trekkies :P"

who said he thought Heaven was a good place"

Just going along with what he said. I don't believe that. lol

#77 Posted by Chameleone (8710 posts) - - Show Bio

Copy says:

"*Waiting for someone to bring up scientology*"

Heeeeeere we go

#78 Posted by Fallen One (10 posts) - - Show Bio

chameleone says:

"Fallen One says:
"chameleone says:
"Copy says:
"Heaven= A place full of virgins :) lol Sorry I had to do it.
Post Edited:2008-02-18 11:21:34"

Who said they were female virgins? Could be a bunch of 45 year old Trekkies :P"

who said he thought Heaven was a good place"

Just going along with what he said. I don't believe that. lol"

I know that, its just I believe in Christianity but I don't believe in the facade that Heaven is a place I would want to go

#79 Posted by Chameleone (8710 posts) - - Show Bio

Fallen One says:

"chameleone says:
"Fallen One says:
"chameleone says:
"Copy says:
"Heaven= A place full of virgins :) lol Sorry I had to do it.
Post Edited:2008-02-18 11:21:34"

Who said they were female virgins? Could be a bunch of 45 year old Trekkies :P"

who said he thought Heaven was a good place"

Just going along with what he said. I don't believe that. lol"

I know that, its just I believe in Christianity but I don't believe in the facade that Heaven is a place I would want to go"

why not? I don't understand. Paradise sounds good to me

#80 Posted by Copy (8336 posts) - - Show Bio

chameleone says:

"Copy says:
"*Waiting for someone to bring up scientology*"
Heeeeeere we go"

Lol.

#81 Posted by Fallen One (10 posts) - - Show Bio

chameleone says:

"Fallen One says:
"chameleone says:
"Fallen One says:
"chameleone says:
"Copy says:
"Heaven= A place full of virgins :) lol Sorry I had to do it.
Post Edited:2008-02-18 11:21:34"

Who said they were female virgins? Could be a bunch of 45 year old Trekkies :P"

who said he thought Heaven was a good place"

Just going along with what he said. I don't believe that. lol"

I know that, its just I believe in Christianity but I don't believe in the facade that Heaven is a place I would want to go"

why not? I don't understand. Paradise sounds good to me"

yeah except that its a Paradise because everyone is dutifully bound to praise God...for all eternity...and sure our human desires will be stripped away but that just makes it worse

#82 Posted by Vrakmul (23398 posts) - - Show Bio

chameleone says:

"Dreadnaught says:
"chameleone says:
"Dreadnaught says:
"Razor_ says:
"Does anyone believe in reincarnation (Just asking)"

Does believing in parallel universes count? Because you may die in this universe, but another you will still be there. "

If all you believe in is science. Can you prove those exist?"

The universe is of finite size, there must be something outside it. It may be vast yes, but it reaches no further than 13.7-8 billion light years. It's a box, there is always something outside of that box. "

He's obviously getting his info from somewhere else if you say it's 13 billion and he says 157 billion"

He then does not realize that moving beyond the speed of light is impossible. If he was correct then the universe would have to be 157 billion years old as well. The universe either expands as fast as light, or more slowly. Or it can fluctuate. It is impossible to go faster.

#83 Posted by Pania (1759 posts) - - Show Bio

Actually my understanding is that Jesus said that Heaven was like two things:

It is a city/temple and it is a "wedding party". (If I remember that correctly.)

So it's not all about worshiping God, it is about having fun too.

#84 Posted by Chameleone (8710 posts) - - Show Bio

Dreadnaught says:

"chameleone says:
"Dreadnaught says:
"chameleone says:
"Dreadnaught says:
"Razor_ says:
"Does anyone believe in reincarnation (Just asking)"

Does believing in parallel universes count? Because you may die in this universe, but another you will still be there. "

If all you believe in is science. Can you prove those exist?"

The universe is of finite size, there must be something outside it. It may be vast yes, but it reaches no further than 13.7-8 billion light years. It's a box, there is always something outside of that box. "

He's obviously getting his info from somewhere else if you say it's 13 billion and he says 157 billion"

He then does not realize that moving beyond the speed of light is impossible. If he was correct then the universe would have to be 157 billion years old as well. The universe either expands as fast as light, or more slowly. Or it can fluctuate. It is impossible to go faster. "

The Flash can go faster than light..... :P

#85 Posted by Pania (1759 posts) - - Show Bio

Dreadnaught says:

He then does not realize that moving beyond the speed of light is impossible. If he was correct then the universe would have to be 157 billion years old as well. The universe either expands as fast as light, or more slowly. Or it can fluctuate. It is impossible to go faster. "

If you guys would read the link I posted, you'll see the reasoning behind that theory.

#86 Posted by Accursed Blade (10 posts) - - Show Bio

chameleone says:

"Dreadnaught says:
"chameleone says:
"Dreadnaught says:
"chameleone says:
"Dreadnaught says:
"Razor_ says:
"Does anyone believe in reincarnation (Just asking)"

Does believing in parallel universes count? Because you may die in this universe, but another you will still be there. "

If all you believe in is science. Can you prove those exist?"

The universe is of finite size, there must be something outside it. It may be vast yes, but it reaches no further than 13.7-8 billion light years. It's a box, there is always something outside of that box. "

He's obviously getting his info from somewhere else if you say it's 13 billion and he says 157 billion"

He then does not realize that moving beyond the speed of light is impossible. If he was correct then the universe would have to be 157 billion years old as well. The universe either expands as fast as light, or more slowly. Or it can fluctuate. It is impossible to go faster. "

The Flash can go faster than light..... :P"

at the cost of his well-being

#87 Posted by Vrakmul (23398 posts) - - Show Bio

chameleone says:

"Dreadnaught says:
"chameleone says:
"Dreadnaught says:
"chameleone says:
"Dreadnaught says:
"Razor_ says:
"Does anyone believe in reincarnation (Just asking)"

Does believing in parallel universes count? Because you may die in this universe, but another you will still be there. "

If all you believe in is science. Can you prove those exist?"

The universe is of finite size, there must be something outside it. It may be vast yes, but it reaches no further than 13.7-8 billion light years. It's a box, there is always something outside of that box. "

He's obviously getting his info from somewhere else if you say it's 13 billion and he says 157 billion"

He then does not realize that moving beyond the speed of light is impossible. If he was correct then the universe would have to be 157 billion years old as well. The universe either expands as fast as light, or more slowly. Or it can fluctuate. It is impossible to go faster. "

The Flash can go faster than light..... :P"

He's not real though.

#88 Posted by The 10,000 (136 posts) - - Show Bio

Dreadnaught says:

"chameleone says:
"Dreadnaught says:
"chameleone says:
"Dreadnaught says:
"chameleone says:
"Dreadnaught says:
"Razor_ says:
"Does anyone believe in reincarnation (Just asking)"

Does believing in parallel universes count? Because you may die in this universe, but another you will still be there. "

If all you believe in is science. Can you prove those exist?"

The universe is of finite size, there must be something outside it. It may be vast yes, but it reaches no further than 13.7-8 billion light years. It's a box, there is always something outside of that box. "

He's obviously getting his info from somewhere else if you say it's 13 billion and he says 157 billion"

He then does not realize that moving beyond the speed of light is impossible. If he was correct then the universe would have to be 157 billion years old as well. The universe either expands as fast as light, or more slowly. Or it can fluctuate. It is impossible to go faster. "

The Flash can go faster than light..... :P"

He's not real though.

"

no gasps really...

#89 Posted by Vrakmul (23398 posts) - - Show Bio

The 10,000 says:

"Dreadnaught says:
"chameleone says:
"Dreadnaught says:
"chameleone says:
"Dreadnaught says:
"chameleone says:
"Dreadnaught says:
"Razor_ says:
"Does anyone believe in reincarnation (Just asking)"

Does believing in parallel universes count? Because you may die in this universe, but another you will still be there. "

If all you believe in is science. Can you prove those exist?"

The universe is of finite size, there must be something outside it. It may be vast yes, but it reaches no further than 13.7-8 billion light years. It's a box, there is always something outside of that box. "

He's obviously getting his info from somewhere else if you say it's 13 billion and he says 157 billion"

He then does not realize that moving beyond the speed of light is impossible. If he was correct then the universe would have to be 157 billion years old as well. The universe either expands as fast as light, or more slowly. Or it can fluctuate. It is impossible to go faster. "

The Flash can go faster than light..... :P"

He's not real though.

"

no gasps really..."

I know sarcasm when I see it.

#90 Posted by Resonate (15054 posts) - - Show Bio

The 10,000 says:

"Dreadnaught says:
"He's not real though. "
no *gasps* really..."

has seizure

#91 Posted by The Colossus (68 posts) - - Show Bio

Resonate says:

"The 10,000 says:
"Dreadnaught says:
"He's not real though. "
no *gasps* really..."

has seizure"

yeah I'm sorry to break it to you

kicks body

oh I mean, I guess it doesn't matter to you now, I wonder what the afterlife is like :)

#92 Posted by Alexander Anderson (4030 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm an atheist. My family never went to church, but my parents read the Bible to me when I was little so I would know what all the fuss was about. I used to be pretty militant about my atheism, and still am occasionally, but overall I've mellowed and developed a more 'live-and-let-live' attitude.

#93 Posted by Jet Speeeeed (20 posts) - - Show Bio

Fallen One says:

"chameleone says:
"Fallen One says:
"chameleone says:
"Fallen One says:
"chameleone says:
"Copy says:
"Heaven= A place full of virgins :) lol Sorry I had to do it.
Post Edited:2008-02-18 11:21:34"
Who said they were female virgins? Could be a bunch of 45 year old Trekkies :P"
who said he thought Heaven was a good place"
Just going along with what he said. I don't believe that. lol"
I know that, its just I believe in Christianity but I don't believe in the facade that Heaven is a place I would want to go"
why not? I don't understand. Paradise sounds good to me"
yeah except that its a Paradise because everyone is dutifully bound to praise God...for all eternity...and sure our human desires will be stripped away but that just makes it worse"

"When I think of the number of disagreeable people that I know who have gone to a better world, I am sure hell wont be so bad at all." - Mark Twain

I just love that quote. Like someone state previously though I believe Christians beliefs I do not call myself one because how it is defined today. I do not pratice religion but I do believe in God and Jesus Christ. But I just do not dwell my whole life around it. Like some stated earlier in a post; many people dwell on rather they are going to heave or hell and don't dwell on things they need to. I just live my life that I believe a good man would and hope once that time comes to see if my name is on the list well I just "pray" I am on it.

However with my beliefs I have many questions and why I am not one of your "devoted" christians. Love for all humans is a big thing to me. I just cannot say that a good person is going to hell just because his beliefs are different than my own. I believe, like Ghandi said, that all religions are true and whatever "righteous" path you walk to get closer to God than that is a right path...

#94 Posted by Static Shock (47329 posts) - - Show Bio

I am a Christian and all, but I don't like to the idea of this thread too much. Causes unnecessary drama, you know?

#95 Posted by White Mage (18740 posts) - - Show Bio

chameleone says:

"Kiara Sullivan says:
"Agnostic here. Used to be a very devote Christian. I guess I am an example of how you can be so hell bent on believeing in something to only turn around later and question those beliefs. "
There's a lot of factors in there. Depending on what kind of church you go to. To me, the fanatical churches the always show on TV do nothing more than turn people away from God."
I don't have any problem with anyone of any religion. Heck, my entire family (even me) is Christian. But we arent "religious". Those people are the ones that make me angry that they are even associated with the title.
#96 Posted by Chameleone (8710 posts) - - Show Bio

White Mage says:

"chameleone says:
"Kiara Sullivan says:
"Agnostic here. Used to be a very devote Christian. I guess I am an example of how you can be so hell bent on believeing in something to only turn around later and question those beliefs. "
There's a lot of factors in there. Depending on what kind of church you go to. To me, the fanatical churches the always show on TV do nothing more than turn people away from God."
I don't have any problem with anyone of any religion. Heck, my entire family (even me) is Christian. But we arent "religious". Those people are the ones that make me angry that they are even associated with the title."

I can't agree with you more.

#97 Posted by Resonate (15054 posts) - - Show Bio

I is eatin a root beer float

#98 Posted by White Mage (18740 posts) - - Show Bio

Resonate says:

"I is eatin a root beer float"
LOL! Where the hell did that come from?!
#99 Posted by King Saturn (223825 posts) - - Show Bio

I know God exists. Its just that the Free Will he gave mankind allows us surmize our own opinions about him. Free Will allows us to rationalize things and see things from a scientific perspective or a perspective that concludes fo facts unstead of the supernatural and truth. We choose to say there is no God cause we have the Free Will to and because there is no immediate punishment from God we say there is no God or cause we see kids in Africa starving to Death, or becuase God did nothing during the Holocaust we say how can there be a God ? But God is real and you can only see this if you have faith in him. You must choose to use your free will to believe in him otherwise you will never see his power and what he can really do for you.

#100 Posted by White Mage (18740 posts) - - Show Bio

King Saturn says:

"I know God exists. Its just that the Free Will he gave mankind allows us surmize our own opinions about him. Free Will allows us to rationalize things and see things from a scientific perspective or a perspective that concludes fo facts unstead of the supernatural and truth. We choose to say there is no God cause we have the Free Will to and because there is no immediate punishment from God we say there is no God or cause we see kids in Africa starving to Death, or becuase God did nothing during the Holocaust we say how can there be a God ? But God is real and you can only see this if you have faith in him. You must choose to use your free will to believe in him otherwise you will never see his power and what he can really do for you. "
Should I play the organ now, or do you wanna post somethin else? LOL