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#1 Posted by XLR87T3 (2625 posts) - - Show Bio

I need help on an essay in school. I'm trying to explain why cats & dogs are not greater than other animals (trying to combat the phase "man's best friend") and the only reason they're not eaten in USA is because of cultural reasons. I would also accept reasons why cats & dogs are bad for the environment (I think cats & dogs tend to go on killing sprees). I'm really trying to bring out the hypocrisy in putting one type of animal over the others. Some people in my class actually think dogs are smarter than pigs and dogs are less vicious than geese...

#2 Posted by judasnixon (6423 posts) - - Show Bio

My dad ate dog when he was in Nam'..... Never did it again when he left.

#3 Edited by Raiiyn (3450 posts) - - Show Bio

If you want to make a comparison case, you could discuss how people in Newfoundland didn't eat chickens in the past for similar reasons (bonding) or how things change since now they do in fact eat chicken.

The following pictures are from an ethnography conducted in Newfoundland in an anthropology textbook by John T. Omohundro. If you can't see them that well, let me know. I can take better pictures of the book ^.^

#4 Posted by XLR87T3 (2625 posts) - - Show Bio

@judasnixon: Perhaps it was because he was afraid of being lynched by a country full of rustled jimmies...? Or maybe he simply didn't like the taste...? Regardless, I've always wanted to broaden my choice of food, to try different things-new things. I've heard that cats taste like rabbits. I wonder if that's true.

#5 Posted by RulerOfThisUniverse (6261 posts) - - Show Bio

Depends. Is the dog cute?

#6 Edited by DarkLordArgeist (587 posts) - - Show Bio

@xlr87t3:

Tackle cultural or ethnic practice as to eating certain type of animals. Local laws, specially those in autonomous regions permit this.

As to why they are often put out in the human food chain is because they are more useful alive than be treated as livestock.

#7 Posted by DarkLordArgeist (587 posts) - - Show Bio

@raiiyn said:

If you want to make a comparison case, you could discuss how people in Newfoundland didn't eat chickens in the past for similar reasons (bonding) or how things change since now they do in fact eat chicken.

The following pictures are from an ethnography conducted in Newfoundland in an anthropology textbook by John T. Omohundro. If you can't see them that well, let me know. I can take better pictures of the book ^.^

Interesting, to you have anything religious in nature like how people on India does not eat cows because they believe they are their ancestors reincarnated or the Jewish belief on not eating animals with hooves?

#8 Edited by Raiiyn (3450 posts) - - Show Bio

@superrobotargeist: I'm not from Newfoundland. It was just part of a study I read for a class last semester. The chicken thing was culturally more about the bonding that occurred between the hens and women in the past though. It wasn't religious.

#9 Posted by Dernman (14910 posts) - - Show Bio

Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya Dernman. You killed ate my father dog. Prepare to die DIE.

#10 Edited by XLR87T3 (2625 posts) - - Show Bio

@superrobotargeist said:

@xlr87t3:

Tackle cultural or ethnic practice as to eating certain type of animals. Local laws, specially those in autonomous regions permit this.

As to why they are often put out in the human food chain is because they are more useful alive than be treated as livestock.

Cats are useful? Pitbulls and stray dogs are useful? You do realize that some breeds of animals...are inconsequential to humans.

#11 Posted by judasnixon (6423 posts) - - Show Bio
#12 Posted by XLR87T3 (2625 posts) - - Show Bio

@xlr87t3: eat some alligator.........

When I was about 8-10 years old, I ate alligator in a restaurant in Chicago. I never got a chance to revisit that restaurant (I'm trying to), but all I can say is: IT WAS DEEEEELICIOUS!

Oh and check out these quotes from people with more posts than you and I combined:

In America we eat cows, exterminate rats and use monkeys to test make-up. In India cows, rats and monkeys are all sacred creatures. So why is it ok to eat animal that is sacred to millions but it isn't ok to eat something many people have put down because they had to move while paradoxically referring to them as our best freinds

Who cares? Different cultures, different morals.

Western people eat lambs and calves, which frankly are baby animals. You decide what is worse..

#13 Posted by DarkLordArgeist (587 posts) - - Show Bio

@xlr87t3 said:

@superrobotargeist said:

@xlr87t3:

Tackle cultural or ethnic practice as to eating certain type of animals. Local laws, specially those in autonomous regions permit this.

As to why they are often put out in the human food chain is because they are more useful alive than be treated as livestock.

Cats are useful? Pitbulls and stray dogs are useful? You do realize that some breeds of animals...are inconsequential to humans.

Dogs (In general) have been used for guarding livestock such as sheep and cattle, they can also be used as alarm systems like what we used to do when our dog (Stray) is still alive.

Animals have something that we people sometimes do not have, the ability to love unconditionally.

#14 Posted by Eisenfauste (8112 posts) - - Show Bio

@xlr87t3 said:

@superrobotargeist said:

@xlr87t3:

Tackle cultural or ethnic practice as to eating certain type of animals. Local laws, specially those in autonomous regions permit this.

As to why they are often put out in the human food chain is because they are more useful alive than be treated as livestock.

Cats are useful? Pitbulls and stray dogs are useful? You do realize that some breeds of animals...are inconsequential to humans.

Dogs (In general) have been used for guarding livestock such as sheep and cattle, they can also be used as alarm systems like what we used to do when our dog (Stray) is still alive.

Animals have something that we people sometimes do not have, the ability to love unconditionally.

Until they are abused >_>.......

#15 Posted by DarkLordArgeist (587 posts) - - Show Bio

@superrobotargeist said:

@xlr87t3 said:

@superrobotargeist said:

@xlr87t3:

Tackle cultural or ethnic practice as to eating certain type of animals. Local laws, specially those in autonomous regions permit this.

As to why they are often put out in the human food chain is because they are more useful alive than be treated as livestock.

Cats are useful? Pitbulls and stray dogs are useful? You do realize that some breeds of animals...are inconsequential to humans.

Dogs (In general) have been used for guarding livestock such as sheep and cattle, they can also be used as alarm systems like what we used to do when our dog (Stray) is still alive.

Animals have something that we people sometimes do not have, the ability to love unconditionally.

Until they are abused >_>.......

True, but the amount of abuse they tolerate is something to awe and they do retaliate if they are pushed to the limit bordering insanity and also for self preservation.

#16 Edited by Erik (32084 posts) - - Show Bio

@xlr87t3 said:

I need help on an essay in school. I'm trying to explain why cats & dogs are not greater than other animals (trying to combat the phase "man's best friend") and the only reason they're not eaten in USA is because of cultural reasons. I would also accept reasons why cats & dogs are bad for the environment (I think cats & dogs tend to go on killing sprees). I'm really trying to bring out the hypocrisy in putting one type of animal over the others. Some people in my class actually think dogs are smarter than pigs and dogs are less vicious than geese...

Look at my dog with those hungry eyes again, and I'll be writing a paper on how eating you isn't wrong.

#17 Posted by XLR87T3 (2625 posts) - - Show Bio
@dernman said:

Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya Dernman. You killed ate my father dog. Prepare to die DIE.

I never ate dog in my life. Why don't you go back to eating ham, being lazy, and impregnating big-bootied Native American women? ;)

#18 Posted by Eisenfauste (8112 posts) - - Show Bio
#19 Posted by XLR87T3 (2625 posts) - - Show Bio

@erik said:

@xlr87t3 said:

I need help on an essay in school. I'm trying to explain why cats & dogs are not greater than other animals (trying to combat the phase "man's best friend") and the only reason they're not eaten in USA is because of cultural reasons. I would also accept reasons why cats & dogs are bad for the environment (I think cats & dogs tend to go on killing sprees). I'm really trying to bring out the hypocrisy in putting one type of animal over the others. Some people in my class actually think dogs are smarter than pigs and dogs are less vicious than geese...

Look at my dog with those hungry eyes again, and I'll be writing a paper on how eating you isn't wrong.

First of all, I never seen your dog or even know you had one. Second of all, dogs are in no way equal to humans. Third of all, human cannibalism is truly worst than any sort of animal slaughter (there are reasons why we put those guys in the Loony Bin).

#20 Posted by XLR87T3 (2625 posts) - - Show Bio
#21 Posted by AllStarSuperman (21431 posts) - - Show Bio

@xlr87t3: you can state your point without being rude.

#22 Edited by DarkLordArgeist (587 posts) - - Show Bio
@xlr87t3 said:

@erik said:

@xlr87t3 said:

I need help on an essay in school. I'm trying to explain why cats & dogs are not greater than other animals (trying to combat the phase "man's best friend") and the only reason they're not eaten in USA is because of cultural reasons. I would also accept reasons why cats & dogs are bad for the environment (I think cats & dogs tend to go on killing sprees). I'm really trying to bring out the hypocrisy in putting one type of animal over the others. Some people in my class actually think dogs are smarter than pigs and dogs are less vicious than geese...

Look at my dog with those hungry eyes again, and I'll be writing a paper on how eating you isn't wrong.

First of all, I never seen your dog or even know you had one. Second of all, dogs are in no way equal to humans. Third of all, human cannibalism is truly worst than any sort of animal slaughter (there are reasons why we put those guys in the Loony Bin).

This statement kinda bothers me. Sorry to ask, but what does that mean?

I hope that it is not the "We are superior and you're inferior so we can do anything we like to do to you" kinda thinking.

#23 Posted by Erik (32084 posts) - - Show Bio

@xlr87t3 said:

@erik said:

Look at my dog with those hungry eyes again, and I'll be writing a paper on how eating you isn't wrong.

First of all, I never seen your dog or even know you had one. Second of all, dogs are in no way equal to humans. Third of all, human cannibalism is truly worst than any sort of animal slaughter (there are reasons why we put those guys in the Loony Bin).

  1. Welcome to the internet.
  2. Dogs are superior to humans in nearly every way that matters to me.
  3. I can resort to cannibalizing you without ever slaughtering you.
#24 Posted by Fallschirmjager (16328 posts) - - Show Bio

Never tried dog. Had a bunch of other uncommon animals though, most notably (that will cause butthurt anyway) is Horse meat. It was delicious.

Best sloppy joes I ever had were made from Reindeer too.

#25 Posted by Eisenfauste (8112 posts) - - Show Bio

@xlr87t3: This > "Why don't you go back to eating ham, being lazy, and impregnating big-bootied Native American women?" Too harsh for someone who was just messing around.

#26 Posted by Eisenfauste (8112 posts) - - Show Bio

@erik: Just curious by superior do you mean in the sense they aren't trying to kill their kind in droves over petty reasons, or showing a lack of respect to the planet, in the sense of debasing the environment.

#27 Edited by Raiiyn (3450 posts) - - Show Bio

@erik said:

@xlr87t3 said:

@erik said:

Look at my dog with those hungry eyes again, and I'll be writing a paper on how eating you isn't wrong.

First of all, I never seen your dog or even know you had one. Second of all, dogs are in no way equal to humans. Third of all, human cannibalism is truly worst than any sort of animal slaughter (there are reasons why we put those guys in the Loony Bin).

  1. Welcome to the internet.
  2. Dogs are superior to humans in nearly every way that matters to me.
  3. I can resort to cannibalizing you without ever slaughtering you.

Stop flirting.

#28 Posted by Erik (32084 posts) - - Show Bio

@erik: Just curious by superior do you mean in the sense they aren't trying to kill their kind in droves over petty reasons, or showing a lack of respect to the planet, in the sense of debasing the environment.

Yes.

@raiiyn said:
  1. I can resort to cannibalizing you without ever slaughtering you.

Stop flirting.

#29 Edited by goobot (516 posts) - - Show Bio

Cats and dogs are humanities friends, why would you eat your friend? In reality what puts humanity above other animals? Nothing, why don't we eat each other? Other animals do. Because if that happens everyone is afraid for their lives. We are civil, and again you don't eat your friend.

In another post you also said cats and dogs are useless, you obviously don't know history very well if you believe that, both animals helped humanity get to the point we are today, there is a reason why they say dogs are mans best friends and cats were worshiped like gods in Egypt.

#30 Posted by Raiiyn (3450 posts) - - Show Bio

@erik said:
@raiiyn said:
  1. I can resort to cannibalizing you without ever slaughtering you.

Stop flirting.

#31 Posted by Eisenfauste (8112 posts) - - Show Bio

@goobot said:

Cats and dogs are humanities friends, why would you eat your friend? In reality what puts humanity above other animals? Nothing, why don't we eat each other? Other animals do. Because if that happens everyone is afraid for their lives. We are civil, and again you don't eat your friend.

Ehhh that's pretty relevant to the person, most see them as simple companions or tools, not friends of humanity.

#32 Posted by JetiiMitra (8402 posts) - - Show Bio

@goobot said:

Cats and dogs are humanities friends, why would you eat your friend? In reality what puts humanity above other animals? Nothing, why don't we eat each other? Other animals do. Because if that happens everyone is afraid for their lives. We are civil, and again you don't eat your friend.

In another post you also said cats and dogs are useless, you obviously don't know history very well if you believe that, both animals helped humanity get to the point we are today, there is a reason why they say dogs are mans best friends and cats were worshiped like gods in Egypt.

I take nibbles every now and then.

#33 Posted by DarkLordArgeist (587 posts) - - Show Bio

@mitran said:

@goobot said:

Cats and dogs are humanities friends, why would you eat your friend? In reality what puts humanity above other animals? Nothing, why don't we eat each other? Other animals do. Because if that happens everyone is afraid for their lives. We are civil, and again you don't eat your friend.

In another post you also said cats and dogs are useless, you obviously don't know history very well if you believe that, both animals helped humanity get to the point we are today, there is a reason why they say dogs are mans best friends and cats were worshiped like gods in Egypt.

I take nibbles every now and then.

Really now?

#34 Posted by JetiiMitra (8402 posts) - - Show Bio

@mitran said:

@goobot said:

Cats and dogs are humanities friends, why would you eat your friend? In reality what puts humanity above other animals? Nothing, why don't we eat each other? Other animals do. Because if that happens everyone is afraid for their lives. We are civil, and again you don't eat your friend.

In another post you also said cats and dogs are useless, you obviously don't know history very well if you believe that, both animals helped humanity get to the point we are today, there is a reason why they say dogs are mans best friends and cats were worshiped like gods in Egypt.

I take nibbles every now and then.

Really now?

Nothing too major, but what's a bite among friends?

#35 Posted by Dernman (14910 posts) - - Show Bio

@erik said:
  1. Dogs are superior to humans in nearly every way that matters to me.

#36 Edited by Dernman (14910 posts) - - Show Bio

@mitran said:

@superrobotargeist said:

@mitran said:

@goobot said:

Cats and dogs are humanities friends, why would you eat your friend? In reality what puts humanity above other animals? Nothing, why don't we eat each other? Other animals do. Because if that happens everyone is afraid for their lives. We are civil, and again you don't eat your friend.

In another post you also said cats and dogs are useless, you obviously don't know history very well if you believe that, both animals helped humanity get to the point we are today, there is a reason why they say dogs are mans best friends and cats were worshiped like gods in Egypt.

I take nibbles every now and then.

Really now?

Nothing too major, but what's a bite among friends?

About 450 ml or 1 pint.

#37 Edited by DarkLordArgeist (587 posts) - - Show Bio

@mitran said:

@superrobotargeist said:

@mitran said:

@goobot said:

Cats and dogs are humanities friends, why would you eat your friend? In reality what puts humanity above other animals? Nothing, why don't we eat each other? Other animals do. Because if that happens everyone is afraid for their lives. We are civil, and again you don't eat your friend.

In another post you also said cats and dogs are useless, you obviously don't know history very well if you believe that, both animals helped humanity get to the point we are today, there is a reason why they say dogs are mans best friends and cats were worshiped like gods in Egypt.

I take nibbles every now and then.

Really now?

Nothing too major, but what's a bite among friends?

Literal or metaphorical?

#38 Posted by JetiiMitra (8402 posts) - - Show Bio

@mitran said:

@superrobotargeist said:

@mitran said:

@goobot said:

Cats and dogs are humanities friends, why would you eat your friend? In reality what puts humanity above other animals? Nothing, why don't we eat each other? Other animals do. Because if that happens everyone is afraid for their lives. We are civil, and again you don't eat your friend.

In another post you also said cats and dogs are useless, you obviously don't know history very well if you believe that, both animals helped humanity get to the point we are today, there is a reason why they say dogs are mans best friends and cats were worshiped like gods in Egypt.

I take nibbles every now and then.

Really now?

Nothing too major, but what's a bite among friends?

Literal or metaphorical?

Yes.

#39 Edited by DarkLordArgeist (587 posts) - - Show Bio

@mitran said:

@superrobotargeist said:

@mitran said:

@superrobotargeist said:

@mitran said:

@goobot said:

Cats and dogs are humanities friends, why would you eat your friend? In reality what puts humanity above other animals? Nothing, why don't we eat each other? Other animals do. Because if that happens everyone is afraid for their lives. We are civil, and again you don't eat your friend.

In another post you also said cats and dogs are useless, you obviously don't know history very well if you believe that, both animals helped humanity get to the point we are today, there is a reason why they say dogs are mans best friends and cats were worshiped like gods in Egypt.

I take nibbles every now and then.

Really now?

Nothing too major, but what's a bite among friends?

Literal or metaphorical?

Yes.

lol

#40 Posted by Racob7 (5530 posts) - - Show Bio

@erik What "matters" to you?

#41 Posted by DarkLordArgeist (587 posts) - - Show Bio

@dernman said:

@erik said:
  1. Dogs are superior to humans in nearly every way that matters to me.

Cute Gif

#42 Posted by Erik (32084 posts) - - Show Bio

@racob7 said:

@erik What "matters" to you?

A sexy posterior.

#43 Posted by Strongarm (5857 posts) - - Show Bio

good protein source

#44 Posted by MonsterStomp (16698 posts) - - Show Bio

You won't find much help here. I couldn't even think about eating a dog. Even if a dog has gone feral and just mauled my arm, I wouldn't even allow anyone to harm it.

Its like asking "Reasons why eating humans isn't wrong". Dogs are mans best friend. If someone ate my dog... I'd do some damage. Its not their purpose to be eaten. Pigs, lambs and cows are all bred to be eaten.

#45 Posted by Erik (32084 posts) - - Show Bio

@xlr87t3: My dog is family, you are not. Guess who I'll be taking a bite out of if the three of us get shipwrecked.

#46 Edited by mrdecepticonleader (17822 posts) - - Show Bio

Aren't dogs and cats alot more intelligent than say cows and chickens?

No need to start eating cats and dogs when there are plenty of other animals such as cows, pigs and chickens that are better at providing food.

Don't really think you have an argument here.

#47 Posted by TheAcidSkull (17827 posts) - - Show Bio

Never tried dog. Had a bunch of other uncommon animals though, most notably (that will cause butthurt anyway) is Horse meat. It was delicious.

Best sloppy joes I ever had were made from Reindeer too.

I've been meaning to try horse meat.

@erik said:

@xlr87t3: My dog is family, you are not. Guess who I'll be taking a bite out of if the three of us get shipwrecked.

I'm guessing me and your dog will be taking a bite out of you. Cheers.

#48 Edited by Dernman (14910 posts) - - Show Bio

@theacidskull said:

@fallschirmjager said:

Never tried dog. Had a bunch of other uncommon animals though, most notably (that will cause butthurt anyway) is Horse meat. It was delicious.

Best sloppy joes I ever had were made from Reindeer too.

I've been meaning to try horse meat.

I've take it you don't eat school lunches. :p

#49 Posted by marvel_boy2241 (2468 posts) - - Show Bio

Dogs are considered a part of peoples families. That is why they are considered different. Take for instance Charlotte's Web. It's a children book about a young girl who loves her pet pig. But her family wants to eat the pig. See? The only reason she valued it is because it was her "family" so to speak. In reality no animal is special imo. What I mean by that is yeah you love your dog, like family. But that's how you feel about your dog. Same thing goes for the pig, who I find quite tasty. It's nepotism. The animals aren't actually special. They have no value for society, other than a sentimental one. You probably know this already though.

http://www.myfoxaustin.com/story/24865253/dog-attacks-and-kills-two-year-old-in-killeen This might be good for the whole "killing spree" angle.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/environment/climatechange/6416683/Pet-dogs-as-bad-for-planet-as-driving-4x4s-book-claims.html try this for the "environment" angle. Hope this helps, bra.

#50 Posted by Erik (32084 posts) - - Show Bio

@erik said:

@xlr87t3: My dog is family, you are not. Guess who I'll be taking a bite out of if the three of us get shipwrecked.

I'm guessing me and your dog will be taking a bite out of you. Cheers.

Ooooo you tease!