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#1 Edited by omegma (124 posts) - - Show Bio

Why is that so huh?Why do they make God's like Zeus,Galactus,Beyonder,Thanos,Odin,Loki and all other gods that I do not even want to mention about into comic book characters.The views of Hell and Heaven.God and Satan are so wrong.Ok I can understand that most people do not believe in God and everything but is this the way to prove it by feeding these wrong messages about who is God and what not in comics is just like or should I say is brainwashing of a child views on God and everything.Why put religion views in the first place.If you do not like religions and you are not a believer then fine.Why put this in comics and put it in a questioning manner such as this?We are comic book viewers and we prefer to have no such things such as this in a comic book ? we prefer our mortal Spider-Man,Batman,Man of Steel such as Superman.Make it enjoying and do not make it to discriminate any religion.

#3 Edited by Cezar_TheScribe (2614 posts) - - Show Bio

Galactus, Beyonder, and Thanos are "gods?"

I don't mind Thor, Hercules, Zeus and so forth being in comics.

Most writers put their ideas and political views in comics and other writings.

That's the way it is.

#4 Posted by Dabee (2390 posts) - - Show Bio

So you're saying that having Gods like Thor and Zeus in comics is an insult to your Christianity? Nobody is telling you to believe in the comics. If you really get offended by them for some strange reason, just don't read them, don't try and tell us we can't have our Thor. You SHOULD read Thor, though, not because you should take it as an educational book, but because it's really really good. Nobody, not even Jason Aaron, are trying to tell you what's happening in Thor: God of Thunder is actually real.

#5 Edited by Betatesthighlander1 (7462 posts) - - Show Bio

@omegma: I'm not sure what your mad about

#7 Edited by GunGunW (996 posts) - - Show Bio

DC and Marvel have a God equivalent to the Judeo-Christian God that reigns supreme

#8 Posted by Noteworthington (190 posts) - - Show Bio

Good troll 7/10

#9 Posted by omegma (124 posts) - - Show Bio

@dabee:

I was not saying that we should not have Thor dude.You are a Fan that is Okay.What I meant was I read some issues of Spawn and it had some weird stuff and views about God and Satan.That they are the Same and stuff and they like to collect souls.What it means is that Spawn was questioning God's work as if he was some monster and they should not put religions in any comic so that the viewer is not insulted by what he believes in.

@betatesthighlander1:
What I wrote above to the Viewer.

#10 Posted by omegma (124 posts) - - Show Bio
#11 Posted by Betatesthighlander1 (7462 posts) - - Show Bio

@omegma:

what about Visnu or Shiva?

#12 Edited by omegma (124 posts) - - Show Bio

@cezar_thescribe: What I am saying is that the main thing is that they should never put religions in comics to prevent a person's religious discrimination.

#13 Edited by omegma (124 posts) - - Show Bio
#14 Posted by KnightRise (4785 posts) - - Show Bio

Just stop.

#15 Posted by Betatesthighlander1 (7462 posts) - - Show Bio
#16 Edited by Extremis (3350 posts) - - Show Bio

@omegma: actually most people DO believe in God, sad as that is...

#17 Posted by guttridgeb (4832 posts) - - Show Bio

*sigh*

#19 Edited by Sideslash (5907 posts) - - Show Bio

If you don't wanna btch about comics, don't read em, simple as.

#20 Edited by Dernman (15076 posts) - - Show Bio

I would be more worried about them bringing Angela into comics as a representative of what's part of heaven then them having characters like Zeus. I also suggest you don't read DC's Vertigo.

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#21 Posted by Wolfrazer (6687 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm just wondering why some people get so bent out of shape over religion. I mean ya its a big thing in the world, but last I checked there are other big religions out there and also other big ones before they dwindled down. So...and besides, in the end aren't religions just telling stories anyway? I mean ya its ok to believe in the stuff, but I don't think its anything to get bent outta shape over just because something or someone conflicts with the viewpoints of what said other person is viewing.

#22 Posted by omegma (124 posts) - - Show Bio
#23 Posted by Betatesthighlander1 (7462 posts) - - Show Bio
#24 Posted by Nerx (15088 posts) - - Show Bio

@omegma: Put it this way, In Real Life religion holds supreme authority for some

that does not hold true in fiction

I can literally create a character that would stomp all of biblical/koranic/torah text figures

#25 Posted by Extremis (3350 posts) - - Show Bio

@dabee: so well said. Couldn't have said it better myself.

And what a good parallel you made about how them asking to remove Gods from comics would be like us asking to remove God from religious texts. Idk if that was inadvertent or not that i made that connection, but it was damn genius. Comparing one fictional God to another. Kudos!

#26 Edited by Dernman (15076 posts) - - Show Bio
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#27 Posted by omegma (124 posts) - - Show Bio

@betatesthighlander1: Sure you can have Thor but please do not make him into a full Ledged God like some gods that I know.

#28 Posted by Betatesthighlander1 (7462 posts) - - Show Bio
#29 Posted by Joygirl (19925 posts) - - Show Bio

Please go away. Don't make this a thing. Nobody cares.

#30 Edited by omegma (124 posts) - - Show Bio

@dernman: I do not read DC'S Vertigo.

@betatesthighlander1:Cause that would spoil all the fun of him being half mortal and all that would mean it would be boring to see him destroying everyone in a single strike without using any effort.Do you want it to get boring ?

#31 Edited by Avenging-X-Bolt (13129 posts) - - Show Bio

because Religion/Mythology is interesting and rife with opportunities for cool characters and stories. A Lot of people like reading about characters involved with it and writers seem to like writing about it. anyway comics are fiction and are not brainwashing anyone most of the books that heavily delve into religion are things that you probably shouldn't or wouldn't allow a child to read anyway.

#32 Posted by Betatesthighlander1 (7462 posts) - - Show Bio

@omegma: when was Thor ever half mortal?

#33 Edited by omegma (124 posts) - - Show Bio

@joygirl: You do not care then fine ignore it ? Why are you not ignoring it and still commenting about it cause it defies your logic.

#34 Edited by Avenging-X-Bolt (13129 posts) - - Show Bio

@omegma said:

@dernman: I do not read DC'S Vertigo.

@betatesthighlander1:Cause that would spoil all the fun of him being half mortal and all that would mean it would be boring to see him destroying everyone in a single strike without using any effort.Do you want it to get boring ?

Thor isnt half mortal. he's half elder god/half Asgardian

#35 Edited by Or35ti (1101 posts) - - Show Bio

The reason gods like Thor, etc. make it in to comics is because they're accepted widely as myths. Comics are just a way of reviving myths and keeping them going. Comic book character are today's mythology in many ways, maybe just more commercial

#36 Posted by flazam (2496 posts) - - Show Bio

@omegma: oh wow. i really don't like you or your opinions, you believer in god. i'm just going to wait for the 'as a christian' line.

There's a lot of religious people on this site

you shouldn't try to offend them

#37 Posted by omegma (124 posts) - - Show Bio
#38 Edited by Betatesthighlander1 (7462 posts) - - Show Bio

@omegma: oh yeah, their wierd about that

#40 Posted by Dernman (15076 posts) - - Show Bio

@omegma said:

@flazam: Tis jerk is annoying nuisance why is he even writing if he is not liking anything about religous views and all that.

He was being offensive but don't stoop to his level.

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#41 Edited by Dragonborn_CT (22230 posts) - - Show Bio

SUCCESSFUL TROLL IS SUCCESSFUL.

#42 Edited by Wolfrazer (6687 posts) - - Show Bio

@or35ti said:

The reason gods like Thor, etc. make it in to comics is because they're accepted widely as myths. Comics are just a way of reviving myths and keeping them going. Comic book character are today's mythology in many ways, maybe just more commercial

But aren't all religions myth anyway? I mean definition myths are just stories, and don't all religions tell stories? So...unless I am completely missing some big point here, it should all be ok.

#43 Edited by Avenging-X-Bolt (13129 posts) - - Show Bio

@or35ti said:

The reason gods like Thor, etc. make it in to comics is because they're accepted widely as myths. Comics are just a way of reviving myths and keeping them going. Comic book character are today's mythology in many ways, maybe just more commercial

But aren't all religions myth anyway?

usually not to the person practicing said religion

#44 Edited by Wolfrazer (6687 posts) - - Show Bio

@avenging_x_bolt said:

@wolfrazer said:

@or35ti said:

The reason gods like Thor, etc. make it in to comics is because they're accepted widely as myths. Comics are just a way of reviving myths and keeping them going. Comic book character are today's mythology in many ways, maybe just more commercial

But aren't all religions myth anyway?

usually not to the person practicing said religion

Well clearly but what I mean is, they all tell stories right? So....I mean I don't get the problem, I don't see people getting bent out of shape with Greek religion is brought up, or Indian or some other religion. Granted they aren't as big as the bigger ones now but they are still there.

#45 Posted by Dabee (2390 posts) - - Show Bio

@omegma said:

@thetimestreamer: why ? Is it because I am a what a believer in God and what he does is for the better ? This topic had never had nothing to do with liking me OK.I do not want hear your pathetic lame two bit comment.I am what I am and there is nothing you could make me change my views.I don't know what your personal problem is but if you have a problem with what I write on this forum so ignore it and stop whining like a little kid.

Take your own advice, is what would be my advice. If you don't like what Spawn has to say about God/Satan, then you can just ignore it or not read it. You're missing out, though, it's really good stuff. Todd McFarlane, I'm sure, never intended for Spawn to be taken as a historical account, however.

#46 Edited by Avenging-X-Bolt (13129 posts) - - Show Bio

@avenging_x_bolt said:

@wolfrazer said:

@or35ti said:

The reason gods like Thor, etc. make it in to comics is because they're accepted widely as myths. Comics are just a way of reviving myths and keeping them going. Comic book character are today's mythology in many ways, maybe just more commercial

But aren't all religions myth anyway?

usually not to the person practicing said religion

Well clearly but what I mean is, they all tell stories right? So....I mean I don't get the problem, I don't see people getting bent out of shape with Greek religion is brought up, or Indian or some other religion. Granted they aren't as big as the bigger ones now but they are still there.

well there ya go. most of these religions are relatively dead whereas Christianity is arguably the most practiced religion today. personally i don't care about it. if by some off chance , i find something that offends me as a christian, ill be an adult and stop reading it.

#47 Posted by Dernman (15076 posts) - - Show Bio

@avenging_x_bolt said:

@wolfrazer said:

@or35ti said:

The reason gods like Thor, etc. make it in to comics is because they're accepted widely as myths. Comics are just a way of reviving myths and keeping them going. Comic book character are today's mythology in many ways, maybe just more commercial

But aren't all religions myth anyway?

usually not to the person practicing said religion

Well clearly but what I mean is, they all tell stories right? So....I mean I don't get the problem, I don't see people getting bent out of shape with Greek religion is brought up, or Indian or some other religion. Granted they aren't as big as the bigger ones now but they are still there.

I see there is a difference between a religions that have been generally abandoned then the ones people follow to this day.

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#48 Posted by TheFool (80 posts) - - Show Bio

@omegma: See, this is what I absolutely hate. You start a thread on a public forum, then ask people who don't agree with you to ignore it and move on, all the while totally ignoring any other religious opinion other than your standard Judaeo-Christian beliefs. So...essentially...you're only open to the idea of respect for God under the Christian definition without any conscientious objectors. Are you surprised that people aren't receiving your point well?

First of all, a very close pal o' mine is a practicing pagan whose pantheon is comprised of the old Norse gods. He's certainly more devout than most people I've ever met, and he's got his own conflicted opinions on the portrayal of Thor, so certainly he can sympathize. However, he also understands that it's a money-making piece of fiction and does little to change his personal beliefs.

Similarly, I'm a Christian, but freaking love Preacher and Transmetropolitan and Hellblazer (depending on the writer). I can enjoy it, because I understand the difference between a creative team telling a story that touches on popular religious figures and my actual faith. See, my faith isn't so weak, so poorly understood , and so ready to fail that it will shatter at the first sign of a new idea. Sorry to see that's not a trait we share, apparently.

Comics are an escape from reality. It isn't discrimination to represent God or Thor or Jesus or Joseph Smith any way the creators/publishers want to. Because comics are fiction, and (at least according to my religious text of preference) God is real. If you can't delineate between fiction and reality, then...well, you have bigger problems than the internet can solve.

Stop giving religious people a bad name. Or at least stop pretending you understand yours.

#49 Posted by Avenging-X-Bolt (13129 posts) - - Show Bio

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@omegma: See, this is what I absolutely hate. You start a thread on a public forum, then ask people who don't agree with you to ignore it and move on, all the while totally ignoring any other religious opinion other than your standard Judaeo-Christian beliefs. So...essentially...you're only open to the idea of respect for God under the Christian definition without any conscientious objectors. Are you surprised that people aren't receiving your point well?

First of all, a very close pal o' mine is a practicing pagan whose pantheon is comprised of the old Norse gods. He's certainly more devout than most people I've ever met, and he's got his own conflicted opinions on the portrayal of Thor, so certainly he can sympathize. However, he also understands that it's a money-making piece of fiction and does little to change his personal beliefs.

Similarly, I'm a Christian, but freaking love Preacher and Transmetropolitan and Hellblazer (depending on the writer). I can enjoy it, because I understand the difference between a creative team telling a story that touches on popular religious figures and my actual faith. See, my faith isn't so weak, so poorly understood , and so ready to fail that it will shatter at the first sign of a new idea. Sorry to see that's not a trait we share, apparently.

Comics are an escape from reality. It isn't discrimination to represent God or Thor or Jesus or Joseph Smith any way the creators/publishers want to. Because comics are fiction, and (at least according to my religious text of preference) God is real. If you can't delineate between fiction and reality, then...well, you have bigger problems than the internet can solve.

Stop giving religious people a bad name. Or at least stop pretending you understand yours.

PREACH BROTHER!!!!!

#50 Edited by Dernman (15076 posts) - - Show Bio

@thefool: Literally the first post to him was I don't like you or your opinions. Then the others were dismissive or calling him a troll. You don't think that would make a person defensive?

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