You own and control your money when you're a single male, and if you are a married male, you don't get as much control over money that your wife gets.
If you are a single woman, you own all the money. If you are a married woman, you still own and control most of the money.
Women>Men. This is based from what I mostly see from marriages and people who are single.
Pros and cons with getting married or staying single.
Being single you have only your will and finances dictating what you can do with marriage add wife to the mix.
"@Bio Guyver: its extreme feminism people are giving women all the power and putting us red blooded males in the shade "Someone needs to begin a "Men's Equal Rights Movement."
@rogue_mar1e said:
"@Bio Guyver: muahahahaaa female domination >:P "
V_V
Marriage is not for everyone. If you're happy being single, cool. If you're happy with the idea of marriage or being married, cool. I've been married for a while and I wouldn't have it any other way. Don't get me wrong, we do not have this state of wedded utopian bliss, but it works for us, and I'm overall happy with marriage in general and who I married in specific.
Quite frankly, I'd be lost without my husband and yes, the cliche is true, I want to grow old with him. And there are other benefits, which I will not get into as it has been specifically requested we keep the conversation appropriate. ;)
Being Single
Do what you want, when you want with whoever you want (unless you still live with your parents xD)
You dont have to deal with the drama that comes with being in a relationship.
Being Married
...well I'm not married, so i wouldnt konw the pro's for this xD
I guess.... you always have someone to wake up with in the morning? O_o and... you get more money if you two share the same back account xD and... um.... OH! if your the girl, you get to wear a fancy ring xP
" @Feral Nova: I wonder if there is a way to avoid any sort of drama in a marriage. Is it possible or am I dreaming too much? "O_o maybe if you live in the Twilight Zone! :D
other than that.... you'll never be able to escape drama! BWWWHAHAHAHAHAHA! xP
" @Bio Guyver: Then that's the man's fault for not being more assertive with the financials. It's his wife's fault he's whipped? Marriage is not for everyone. If you're happy being single, cool. If you're happy with the idea of marriage or being married, cool. I've been married for a while and I wouldn't have it any other way. Don't get me wrong, we do not have this state of wedded utopian bliss, but it works for us, and I'm overall happy with marriage in general and who I married in specific. Quite frankly, I'd be lost without my husband and yes, the cliche is true, I want to grow old with him. And there are other benefits, which I will not get into as it has been specifically requested we keep the conversation appropriate. ;) "I know, I agree lol.
Isn't that what marriage is all about? =p
Well, suffice to say he keeps me well satisfied and I do my very best to do the same for him.
@Bio Guyver: I think it should be. I also frequent a few other forums and there was a long marriage thread on one the other day. From so many of the responses in it the only thing they were talking about was sex. It made me a sad panda.
" @Edamame: LOL!!!!Welcome to the minority and resistance. At least you're old skool lol.
Well, suffice to say he keeps me well satisfied and I do my very best to do the same for him.
@Bio Guyver: I think it should be. I also frequent a few other forums and there was a long marriage thread on one the other day. From so many of the responses in it the only thing they were talking about was sex. It made me a sad panda. "
" Well, "it" does increase life expectancy, you know. "Or, it just plain kills you.
Number one way to die from the show, "1,000 ways to Die."
That's generally determined on a state to state basis. In California, for example, once you're married it's fifty-fifty, period, unless you have a pre-nuptial agreement. In other states you get what you can prove you put into the marriage. Cost is determined on how expensive your lawyer is, how much the division of the assets is contested between the two, and custody issues. If it's just two people who want to never see each other again and have it worked out between themselves, then you can generally get a divorce for the cost of the lawyer without having to go to court. The least expensive divorce I know of was $800, no kids, no asset division issues, the couple had worked it all out in advance and just had the lawyers make it legal. What I signed was the marriage license and the marriage certificate, which legally made our household a taxable married household, I can see my husband if he's in ICU, etc.
Most of the legal implications are financial. Joint taxes, bank accounts, loans, vehicles, mortgages in both names, and so forth and so on. In some states, any debt the two of you accrue during the marriage becomes the responsibility of both upon divorce. Some real nasty horror stories regarding that one.
@Bio Guyver: Yeah, I r an old fashioned kind of girl. My ideas on how to support my husband tend to horrify some of my more feminist friends. ;)
" @Edamame: Bearing in mind I have never been divorced, so most of this is based on friends and family experiences...You have feminist friends? O.o
That's generally determined on a state to state basis. In California, for example, once you're married it's fifty-fifty, period, unless you have a pre-nuptial agreement. In other states you get what you can prove you put into the marriage. Cost is determined on how expensive your lawyer is, how much the division of the assets is contested between the two, and custody issues. If it's just two people who want to never see each other again and have it worked out between themselves, then you can generally get a divorce for the cost of the lawyer without having to go to court. The least expensive divorce I know of was $800, no kids, no asset division issues, the couple had worked it all out in advance and just had the lawyers make it legal. What I signed was the marriage license and the marriage certificate, which legally made our household a taxable married household, I can see my husband if he's in ICU, etc.
Most of the legal implications are financial. Joint taxes, bank accounts, loans, vehicles, mortgages in both names, and so forth and so on. In some states, any debt the two of you accrue during the marriage becomes the responsibility of both upon divorce. Some real nasty horror stories regarding that one.
@Bio Guyver: Yeah, I r an old fashioned kind of girl. My ideas on how to support my husband tend to horrify some of my more feminist friends. ;) "
Jumps behind couch
No offense to any feminist, but I can't seem to talk to any of you lol.
And yeah, so far as "it" extending your life, I figure I'll live to be about 200. :)
It's not just about compromise all the time, it's nice having someone going through everything with you, particularly in today's economy. I'm not out there all alone, we lean on each other. Yeah, I could do it on my own, I just don't want to and don't see any need to do so when I have so compatible a partner.
Again, this is for me, not everyone. I have many single friends who have absolutely no desire to be anything other than single, and they're happy with that. I'm happy they're happy.
" @Bio Guyver: Oh no no no, not me. A man opens a door for me I smile and say "Thank you", not whip out my Anti-Man League Card and start screaming "YOU SEXIST PIG YOU THINK I CAN'T OPEN A DOOR FOR MYSELF IS THAT WHAT YOU THINK?!" And yeah, so far as "it" extending your life, I figure I'll live to be about 200. :) It's not just about compromise all the time, it's nice having someone going through everything with you, particularly in today's economy. I'm not out there all alone, we lean on each other. Yeah, I could do it on my own, I just don't want to and don't see any need to do so when I have so compatible a partner. Again, this is for me, not everyone. I have many single friends who have absolutely no desire to be anything other than single, and they're happy with that. I'm happy they're happy. "I heard all feminist are Amazonians, like Wonder Woman.
Yeah, I agree. It isn't for everyone. Some people feel better staying career-driven and single, rather than being married and family-driven. You can still be career-driven if you're married, though.
" @Bio Guyver said:We talking about what I think we are lol?" @Edamame said:I don´t think you know what I mean by "it"." Well, "it" does increase life expectancy, you know. "Or, it just plain kills you. Number one way to die from the show, "1,000 ways to Die." "
@Tomokata said:" @Edamame: Bearing in mind I have never been divorced, so most of this is based on friends and family experiences...
That's generally determined on a state to state basis. In California, for example, once you're married it's fifty-fifty, period, unless you have a pre-nuptial agreement. In other states you get what you can prove you put into the marriage. Cost is determined on how expensive your lawyer is, how much the division of the assets is contested between the two, and custody issues. If it's just two people who want to never see each other again and have it worked out between themselves, then you can generally get a divorce for the cost of the lawyer without having to go to court. The least expensive divorce I know of was $800, no kids, no asset division issues, the couple had worked it all out in advance and just had the lawyers make it legal. What I signed was the marriage license and the marriage certificate, which legally made our household a taxable married household, I can see my husband if he's in ICU, etc.
Most of the legal implications are financial. Joint taxes, bank accounts, loans, vehicles, mortgages in both names, and so forth and so on. In some states, any debt the two of you accrue during the marriage becomes the responsibility of both upon divorce. Some real nasty horror stories regarding that one.
@Bio Guyver: Yeah, I r an old fashioned kind of girl. My ideas on how to support my husband tend to horrify some of my more feminist friends. ;) "
Well, the joint taxes might be a benefit because the money is being pooled and you are not paying for tha taxes on your own.
@ComicMan24 said:" @Edamame: Of course there are. If you are a single person, you can do whatever you want. In a marriage you have to compromise. But if you are happy with what you have then there is no problem. "
Well, that I knew, but I thought you had specific facts. Like certain legal and financial facts.
@Bio Guyver said:" @Tomokata said:LOL. Make sure to hold the door for them. = D "" @Edamame: Bearing in mind I have never been divorced, so most of this is based on friends and family experiences...You have feminist friends? O.o
That's generally determined on a state to state basis. In California, for example, once you're married it's fifty-fifty, period, unless you have a pre-nuptial agreement. In other states you get what you can prove you put into the marriage. Cost is determined on how expensive your lawyer is, how much the division of the assets is contested between the two, and custody issues. If it's just two people who want to never see each other again and have it worked out between themselves, then you can generally get a divorce for the cost of the lawyer without having to go to court. The least expensive divorce I know of was $800, no kids, no asset division issues, the couple had worked it all out in advance and just had the lawyers make it legal. What I signed was the marriage license and the marriage certificate, which legally made our household a taxable married household, I can see my husband if he's in ICU, etc.
Most of the legal implications are financial. Joint taxes, bank accounts, loans, vehicles, mortgages in both names, and so forth and so on. In some states, any debt the two of you accrue during the marriage becomes the responsibility of both upon divorce. Some real nasty horror stories regarding that one.
@Bio Guyver: Yeah, I r an old fashioned kind of girl. My ideas on how to support my husband tend to horrify some of my more feminist friends. ;) "
Jumps behind couch No offense to any feminist, but I can't seem to talk to any of you lol. "
I always do =p
One woman followed him through a department store haranguing him, one of the ladies at the Clinique counter called security on her.
He and the the Clinique lady have been dating for three months.
/yeah yeah, cool story
The tax situation is a double edged sword, as you can get better tax credits sometimes filing as joint. However, as the higher income brackets are getting more heavily taxed, I know a few married couples who file separately. They pay less taxes that way. Also, if you think your spouse has been taking care of the taxes and suddenly you find out suddenly they're not, divorced or no, they will come after you, even if the divorce proceedings started well before the non-payment of taxes.
Again, I think it comes down to there needing to be something more than just kinda sorta getting along and having fabulous sex. You have to work at it. That includes in the bedroom.
I do know people who are not having children specifically because of the current economic situation. They're afraid of being laid off and are deciding to wait until it stabilizes.
As far as one person wanting children and their partner not...well...money can be used as a reason either way, but I think it's a factor, not a cause in that dispute. One partner will absolutely NOT want children and use money as a reason against it, or one partner absolutely WILL want children and completely disregard any sticky financial situations. Those are extremes, and of course there are variations in between, but those are the two most common issues I've seen at their simplest.
Money (last I checked) was the number one reason for divorce, even outdoing adultery. Today, though, I know people who want to get divorced but can't afford it!
" @Sexy Merc said:Maybe she doesn't want to get married either." I'm still not ready for marriage...lol, but I've been happily unmarried with the same girl for about 2 years now, and I don't know where I'd be without her. "Do you think she's gonna wait for you forever? "
" @Bio Guyver: Being a feminist means equality between women and men. I don't understand when guys have a problem with that.Neither do I.
@Tomokata: Maybe. Or maybe she's like so many of the girls I know who are holding out for marriage. "
And feminism is yet another one of those things that started out as a good idea, and got wildly blown out of proportion, attracting zealots and fanatics who distort the intent behind the movement. It started out as equal but not better, ended up (for many) meaning THE SAME. Women are not the same as men, although yes, there should be equality.
Why courtesy and politeness was picked by the feminazis as something to scourge men about, I have nary a clue.
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