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@laflux said:

@comicstooge: Yes that would be great.

Am I the only one who thinks Seth should ditch J&J security?

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So the divas division is up to Paige , Naomi , and the Bella twins with little to no story besides Total Divas and tag matches shameful

Makes it worse for me is I don't like Naomi. No matter because I don't see her getting the spotlight like other wrestlers.

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#7553  Edited By dernman

@comicstooge said:

@laflux said:

@comicstooge: Yes that would be great.

Am I the only one who thinks Seth should ditch J&J security?

No, they bring him down.

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@dernman said:

@comicstooge said:

@laflux said:

@comicstooge: Yes that would be great.

Am I the only one who thinks Seth should ditch J&J security?

no they bring him down.

He just feels like the same old Seth, with a new belt. Him winning the belt should have been a new beginning for the character.

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#7555  Edited By dernman

@comicstooge: Yes. I also think he should not so heavily rely in the authority so much. Both J&J and the Authority make him seem less legit, that the only reason he is where he is, is because of them. He doesn't have to totally separate himself. Just not be so heavy handed and overbearing with it. Let him get out of big situations on his own.

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#7556  Edited By laflux

@comicstooge said:

@laflux said:

@comicstooge: Yes that would be great.

Am I the only one who thinks Seth should ditch J&J security?

Yea... I would like Jamie Noble and Joey Mercury to join the tag team division personally. I think Seth having both the authority and J and J makes him look too weak. Hell they even interfered in his match with Neville. Those are the type of matches he should be winning clean.

Though knowing what Mercury went through, its great to see him back on his feet. CM Punk really helped him through some dark times.

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@dernman said:

@comicstooge: Yes. I also think he should not so heavily rely in the authority so much. Both J&J and the Authority make him seem less legit, that the only reason he is where he is, is because of them. He doesn't have to totally separate himself. Just not be so heavy handed and overbearing with it. Let him get out of big situations on his own.

Exactly.

He needs to stop hiding behind the Authority. Like, his promo against Heyman, Brock and Cena before the Rumble was literally one of the best things he's ever done and that didn't require him to hide behind HHH.

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@laflux: I don't agree with everything he says (like certain people being inducted) but I do agree with the things he says about the fans and disruptions.

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I liked Mania this year. I liked last years too. Bray is so AWEsome. He's been given lousy booking and is still loved. I wonder who he is calling out now.

I think Seth will change in time. He just needs time. I cant wait till he goes face. I don't like his current character.

NXT is so much better than Raw or Smackdown it is almost sad. I blame Vince point blank period.

Sheamus is back and better now that he's a heel.

I was hoping to see the spinning US title again. I miss that title.

What I think is crazy is that Lucha UNderground is in my neighborhood, it is literally 10 minutes away from my house, but I can't find tickets.

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Love that quotation.

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@balee_dattttt: WWE banned the Curb Stomp. :(

Apperently that's not fully true, they are using it like the Punt Kick, as a super finisher to write off people for storyline purposes. Still sucks though.

I hope he uses God's Last Gift TBH. But the finisher he used against Dolph looked whack and I'm a massive Seth Rollins fan

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@comicstooge said:

@balee_dattttt: WWE banned the Curb Stomp. :(

Apperently that's not fully true, they are using it like the Punt Kick, as a super finisher to write off people for storyline purposes. Still sucks though.

I hope he uses God's Last Gift TBH. But the finisher he used against Dolph looked whack and I'm a massive Seth Rollins fan

That finisher sucks

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Man that trios match was craaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaazy. Lucha Underground is boss as fuk.

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#7572  Edited By BALEE_DATTTTT

@xrated48 said:
@comicstooge said:

@balee_dattttt: WWE banned the Curb Stomp. :(

Wait they wwe banned the curb stomp, I loved that move

http://www.wrestlinginc.com/wi/news/2015/0422/592640/more-on-seth-rollins-being-given-a-new-finisher-despite-wwe-not/

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#7573  Edited By ComicStooge

@balee_dattttt: I think they should give Rusev the gimmick of an MMA type fighter, like Joe used to be.

Think Yuri Boyka from Undisputed. It's not motivated by his nationality and it's badass.

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@balee_dattttt: I think they should give Rusev the gimmick of an MMA type fighter, like Joe used to be.

Think Yuri Boyka from Undisputed. It's not motivated by his nationality and it's badass.

Isn't that Brock's gimmick pretty much though?

I mean Brock suits that Gimmick perfectly, hence why he can get away with doing relatively few moves.

He can have an MMA element in his gimmick, and to an extent he already does, JBL and Cole love to mention his Muay Thai training and Sumo work, but I don't think they should build his new gimmick soley around it.

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Also Joe likely is coming to WWE soon, and considering NXT actually leave wrestlers gimmicks more or less the same, he's going to be using a similiar gimmick too.

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Apperently Chris Jericho is a ass kisser suck up now. Get out with that Sh!t

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@yung_ancient_one: I may be wrong but isn't Lucha Underground free?

Yes. It only makes it that much more infuriating. I can't find the time to look for tickets and when I do... their "sold out." Maybe I should just show up on a Wednesday see if I can get it. (+)

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@comicstooge said:

@balee_dattttt: I think they should give Rusev the gimmick of an MMA type fighter, like Joe used to be.

Think Yuri Boyka from Undisputed. It's not motivated by his nationality and it's badass.

Isn't that Brock's gimmick pretty much though?

I mean Brock suits that Gimmick perfectly, hence why he can get away with doing relatively few moves.

He can have an MMA element in his gimmick, and to an extent he already does, JBL and Cole love to mention his Muay Thai training and Sumo work, but I don't think they should build his new gimmick soley around it.

...

Also Joe likely is coming to WWE soon, and considering NXT actually leave wrestlers gimmicks more or less the same, he's going to be using a similiar gimmick too.

Brock's never around.

What should they do with Rusev in your opinion?

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@comicstooge:

They should have let him beat Cena at Extreme Rules, so Cena could have won the I quit match and they could end the fued at 2-2.

Honestly, I think Rusev should beat Cena unconscious at Payback, using the accolade. Cena doesn't say I quit, so they do a mankind vs The Rock for Rusev to win. That makes Rusev hella strong, without Cena losing clean.

I think Lana should tease leaving Rusev, but actually help Rusev win by playing Cena saying I quit on tap or something. Then on the winning Money in the Bank.

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#7579  Edited By Wolverine008

A little late, but happy birthday Owen Hart.

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Raw was surprisingly good this week! I enjoyed it, not sure if I should raise my expectations yet though…

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Glad WWE is pushing Ambrose. One of my favorites on the roster.

Hope they let him go off to his full extent. On the mic he's JTS/Piper/Pillman and in the ring he's a hardcore great. WWE would be wise to make him the Mick Foley of this era. He's one of the few wrestlers that can do quality extreme rules matches in the PG Era.

I swear it's like in my mind I have a vision for each character on the WWE roster.

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@laflux Dude, we're going to Japan like, right now..

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It would be awesome if Dean Ambrose somehow won the WWE World Heavyweight Championship... I got a feeling that won't happen though.

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I liked this match:

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#7586  Edited By dernman

Watching Naomi and Page argue back and forth. It almost sounded like there was some legit heat there.

The new mega powers might be interesting if Sandow made a better Macho Man.

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Dude, the new NXT special was brilliant.

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Seriously guys, Lucha Underground. I'm not joking.

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#7589  Edited By ComicStooge

@laflux's reaction to Owens pinning Cena clean at EC in 4 steps:

First, the shock.

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Then the disappointment.

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Then the sweet, salty tears:

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@comicstooge: I wanted him to put over someone like Zayn, but why would I be upset :). Owens is a great talent. It just shows Cena isn't the burial monster people sometimes make him out to be. Plus Owens will do the job at Money in The Bank :)

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@laflux said:

@comicstooge: Owens will do the job at Money in The Bank :)

That's what you said about Elimination Chamber. How's that go?

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Black Machismo is light years better of a imitation of the Macho Man than this crap Damien Sandow is doing.

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#7593  Edited By Jnr6Lil

@king_saturn said:

Black Machismo is light years better of a imitation of the Macho Man than this crap Damien Sandow is doing.

Because Jay Lethal made that gimmick his own with SoCalVal, the feud with Sonjay Dutt, etc. And he was a better in-ring worker than Sandow

Black Machismo was the best thing Lethal did in his career.

Add that to the fact Jay Lethal was a legit fan of Macho Man. WWE gave Sandow this gimmick because they had nothing to do with him as with half the roster.

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Man, Owens vs Cena at EC is a 5 star match.

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Jim Cornette is such a tosser

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I'm glad Owens went over and he should also go over at MITB. Make him Cena's Kyrptonite and put over the next generation of stars in a big way. Cena is bulletproof and can afford the loss too.

And yes, Lucha Underground is where it is at.

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#7597  Edited By ComicStooge

I'm glad Owens went over and he should also go over at MITB. Make him Cena's Kyrptonite and put over the next generation of stars in a big way. Cena is bulletproof and can afford the loss too.

And yes, Lucha Underground is where it is at.

I think having Owens using a low blow to beat Cena next time would be better booking. Cena still looks strong, Owens still wins and comes off like a true heel.

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@gravelord said:

I'm glad Owens went over and he should also go over at MITB. Make him Cena's Kyrptonite and put over the next generation of stars in a big way. Cena is bulletproof and can afford the loss too.

And yes, Lucha Underground is where it is at.

I think having Owens using a low blow to beat Cena next time would be better booking. Cena still looks strong, Owens still wins and comes off like a true heel.

Alternatively they could have him use the apron powerbomb on Cena (since he has yet to debut it on the main roster) and beat him down without mercy before the refs are forced to stop the match.

But that might be a bit risky for creative to do.

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@comicstooge said:
@gravelord said:

I'm glad Owens went over and he should also go over at MITB. Make him Cena's Kyrptonite and put over the next generation of stars in a big way. Cena is bulletproof and can afford the loss too.

And yes, Lucha Underground is where it is at.

I think having Owens using a low blow to beat Cena next time would be better booking. Cena still looks strong, Owens still wins and comes off like a true heel.

Alternatively they could have him use the apron powerbomb on Cena (since he has yet to debut it on the main roster) and beat him down without mercy before the refs are forced to stop the match.

But that might be a bit risky for creative to do.

They can't book Owens too strong. He needs the right amount of cowardice to really be a heel.

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#7600  Edited By ComicStooge

Dude, Cena vs Owens is the best thing in WWE right now.

Matches are excellent, promos are brilliant the actual story-line itself is organic. Really top notch stuff.