#1 Edited by Sexy Merc (42076 posts) - - Show Bio

It has begun, HHH is the COO of the WWE.

 
 
 

This thread is for discussing pro-wrestling in general, during, before, or after the shows/ppvs are on (or just general out of the ring news).

#2 Posted by TheCerealKillz (10269 posts) - - Show Bio

Give me the attitude era back and blood.

#3 Posted by ssejllenrad (12847 posts) - - Show Bio
@TheCerealKillz said:
Give me the attitude era back and blood.
This. If only we could get them stars back in those days young again instead of the injury-prone oldies they are now. Talent meant something back then.
#4 Edited by God_Spawn (38114 posts) - - Show Bio

I hate this business right now, give it back to the fans, the real ones, not the IWC snarks. Maybe with triple H actually being a wrestler he might treat things better. It's a new era with the King of Kings.

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#5 Posted by Sexy Merc (42076 posts) - - Show Bio

The Attitude Era is probably the most overrated era in pro-wrestling history. It was great and my favorite era, but people need to stop living in the past.

 

There are talented starts in the WWE now, sometimes they don't always push their best talents or release them, but look at Danielson right now.

 

But most of the people that want the era back are the same people that think John Cena can't wrestle or that Randy Orton is a good wrestler.

#6 Posted by TheCerealKillz (10269 posts) - - Show Bio

I know what you are talking about, I'm saying bring the type of stuff back from the attitude era, not the superstars, cept some. I would love to see some actual Extreme Rules matches and such.  
 
I'm still waiting for WWE to push Kingston and Morrison and all the others to the WWE Champions, which they almost fufilled, then they had Miz take it over once again.

#7 Posted by ssejllenrad (12847 posts) - - Show Bio
@Sexy Merc: Attitude era is overrated, that is true. But I think the most overrated era is the Nitro era.
 
Touche on your last paragraph. That's a bullseye on me.. :D
#8 Posted by Sexy Merc (42076 posts) - - Show Bio

Apparently Joey Styles is going back to commentary on Thursday.

#9 Posted by TheCerealKillz (10269 posts) - - Show Bio

I've heard that Taker is coming back during SummerSlam...

#10 Posted by Sexy Merc (42076 posts) - - Show Bio

I wonder if he'll go back to Biker Taker, lol.

#11 Posted by TheCerealKillz (10269 posts) - - Show Bio

He should, with the short hair. It wouldn't be the same if he came back with short hair as Deadman Taker.

#12 Posted by Sexy Merc (42076 posts) - - Show Bio

Yeah, he can't do that.

 

Him retiring as Biker would be strange though.

#13 Posted by TheCerealKillz (10269 posts) - - Show Bio

Yeah.... A wig lol?

#14 Posted by God_Spawn (38114 posts) - - Show Bio

Quite frankly I think WWE does have a great cast, they just aren't or weren't pushing enough people which could've hurt them in the long run. Right now guys like Miz and Morrison are top guys, Miz got pushed more than Morrison, but Morrison and Miz showed they have good in ring chemistry with each other. Daniel Bryan is the best in ring wrestler the wwe has to offer, Cena has his matches, is great on the mic, Orton is very one dimensional on the mic, but is a decent wrestler and can get quite the pop. But guys that could be top players or have gotten better haven't been played as much. Chris Masters has shown great improvement, Drew Mcyntire is awesome in the ring, he just isn't aired. Sheamus and Barret are both great up and coming guys, hell even Alex Riley has grown on me. WWE has a great roster, it's the people growing up don't like change, can't live that people compare the Rock to Cena and such.
My problem with them is how they became to distanced with the term wrestling. They forced upon us the characters of Super Cena and Super Orton and don't have enough credible guys built up to give decent shows anymore. I don't mind Cena as champ, but him becoming champ for 2-3 times in a year for years now has gotten ridiculous. Orton being champ just 2 days after Christian won, because Vince said he wasn't "marketable" enough.  You don't need to be champ to be top guy, Impact wrestling shows that constantly. I'm frankly sick of seeing Christian and Orton face each other again They've had 4 titles matches with each other and will do more since Christian is champion, count on it.
 
They don't have enough credible guys, they have talent, they just don't use it properly. Their balance is way off, and they give us the same old sh*t month after month after month.have  Edge and Del Rio faced each other or encountered each other like 15 times in just a few weeks, that match at mania lost all its hype and Del Rio fizzled, now he is MITB winner after not being relevant since moving to Raw. Super characters are fine, but you don't need to give them the built to be a top guy in the company. They need to change things up for once, maybe with Trip as chairman, he will shake things up since he was a wrestler once, he knows what it takes to properly utilize said talent.

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#15 Edited by Sexy Merc (42076 posts) - - Show Bio

I agree with most of what you said, GS.

 

Also, Alberto has 50 title opportunities, lol.

#16 Edited by God_Spawn (38114 posts) - - Show Bio
@Sexy Merc said:

I agree with most of what you said, GS.

 

Also, Alberto has 50 title opportunities, lol.

Im sick of Del Rio lol, i even called he would win just to become relevant again. He's just too one dimensional on the mic as well. It's like listening to Samoa Joe, or Randy Orton in an interview except happy instead of constantly PMSing.
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#17 Posted by Sexy Merc (42076 posts) - - Show Bio

Some people call him the Mexican JBL, haha.

 
 

When Cena is being serious with his promos and not putting in corny/lame jokes, he is great on the mic.

#18 Posted by Osiris1428 (1349 posts) - - Show Bio

What was up with that "Jimmy" crap?? Yeah, push Kingston and Morrison, someone please beat the hell out of Cena (over and over again). Bring back the blood and excitement. 

#19 Posted by Sexy Merc (42076 posts) - - Show Bio

I am a little surprised that they didn't push R-Truth for title contention, but there will be probably be a feud with him and JoMo soon.

 

I thin ADL will finally fulfill his destiny and win the WWE championship after the Miz-Mysterio match next week.

#20 Posted by ssejllenrad (12847 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm loving the lack of love for Del Rio (Dos Caras Jr.) here. Hehehe! He was lame in Lucha Libre. He sucked in MMA. He doesn't cut it in WWE.

#21 Posted by Jean_Luc_LeBeau (84704 posts) - - Show Bio

The exchange between HHH and Mr. McMahon on Raw was one of the better skits in recent memory.

#22 Posted by God_Spawn (38114 posts) - - Show Bio

Cena is a pro on the mic, he gets that emotional attachment out to get you excited. Orton sucks on the mic, but I do feel his ring work is a bit better than Cena's. People only want to see him viper out and rko someone that's it. JBL is waaay better IMO lol, well i remember back in the APA days when he was  a badass.

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#23 Posted by Sexy Merc (42076 posts) - - Show Bio

I think Cena is a better wrestler than Orton.

 

 

It was funny when Trips called Vince, 'pop.'

#24 Posted by God_Spawn (38114 posts) - - Show Bio

Here is my take on Del Rio. Only reason I tolerated him was he had decent spots, not many people his size can do a top rope enzugiri like he can and he was good on the mic when he first came. Now every promo is this *coughs*.
   Rodrigo announcer guy *long winded entrance in spanish, i'm too lazy to type it all out in Spanish...ALBERTOOO DELLL RIIIIIOOOOOOOO...

*comes out in a fancy car, cocks up on the ramp, gold sparkles, awkward hand waves, gets in the ring*
 
"MY NAME...MY NAME IS ALBERTO DEL RIOOOOOOOO *fist pump of enthusiasm*. But you...you already know that, *wink*. Blah blah blah WWE championship, blah blah blah money in the bank... blah blah it is my DESTINY" Proceeded by awkward hand waves and a half cocked smile. 
 
That is del rio on a weekly basis

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#25 Edited by God_Spawn (38114 posts) - - Show Bio
@Sexy Merc: I prefer Orton over Cena, or I did. Cena to me always got you hyped, which is why he put on good matches, he would get you excited and always did 100%. Orton was just better in ring for the longer time, just my opinion though he can't hold a candle compared to Cena on mic work. I hated that stint by orton, and he needs to shave his pube beard.
 
As for R-Truth though, he would be a decent champ for awhile I suppose, though he is hysterical now.
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#26 Posted by Sexy Merc (42076 posts) - - Show Bio

I miss Chris Jericho, the business needs him back but he's on his Fozzy tour right now.

 

By the way, to the Goldberg fans:

 

Y2J is better than him in pro-wrestling and real life.

 
#27 Posted by God_Spawn (38114 posts) - - Show Bio
@Sexy Merc: Y2J is the definition of what pro wrestling should be, hardly any brains in the business like his anymore.
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#28 Posted by Sexy Merc (42076 posts) - - Show Bio
@god_spawn
 

Agreed, just wonder when he'll be back.

#29 Posted by ssejllenrad (12847 posts) - - Show Bio
@Sexy Merc: @god_spawn: Jerichoholics? I know I am... :D
#30 Posted by God_Spawn (38114 posts) - - Show Bio
@Sexy Merc said:
@god_spawn
 

Agreed, just wonder when he'll be back.

No idea, only Jericho knows.
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#31 Posted by King Saturn (224455 posts) - - Show Bio
the Triple H becoming Chairman of the WWE tag sort of surprised me... but once I heard the The Game's Music hit during the Cena - McMahon confrontation at the end of RAW... you had to know something big was gonna happen... and can and/or will The Game bring CM Punk back to the WWE is what I am wondering about now... though that was really fu#ked up how Vince stopped the Mysterio vs Miz proposed Championship Match after they did All That Work during the night in the Tournament... 
#32 Posted by Sexy Merc (42076 posts) - - Show Bio

Remember when we were talking about HHH being in charge of the WWE a week ago, lol.

 

I think CM Punk will come back. They'll do a kayfabe with HHH.

#33 Posted by King Saturn (224455 posts) - - Show Bio
@Sexy Merc said:

Remember when we were talking about HHH being in charge of the WWE a week ago, lol.

 

I think CM Punk will come back. They'll do a kayfabe with HHH.

I would not mine seeing Rey Mysterio getting a shot at CM Punk for the legit WWE Title... I don't know about The Miz... Miz got talent... but I like 619 a little more than he... 
#34 Posted by King Saturn (224455 posts) - - Show Bio
@Sexy Merc said:

I think Cena is a better wrestler than Orton.

 

 

It was funny when Trips called Vince, 'pop.'

ha ha ha... a skipping RKO
#35 Posted by Sexy Merc (42076 posts) - - Show Bio

What I really, really don't want is for Danielson to be the first guy to cash in and lose.

#36 Posted by King Saturn (224455 posts) - - Show Bio
@Gambler said:

The exchange between HHH and Mr. McMahon on Raw was one of the better skits in recent memory.

agreed... between CM Punk going off on the WWE elite at the end of RAW a few weeks ago and this end show skit... RAW is looking very incredible right now 
 
 
@Sexy Merc said:

What I really, really don't want is for Danielson to be the first guy to cash in and lose.

yeah that would suck.... 
#37 Posted by Sexy Merc (42076 posts) - - Show Bio

Stone Cold hasn't said anything about Vince not being chairman anymore...

 

He usually updates his Twitter after every Raw segment when something good or shocking happens.

#38 Posted by King Saturn (224455 posts) - - Show Bio
hmmm... that's something 
perhaps there is more to it than we think
#39 Posted by BlazeEmblem (1723 posts) - - Show Bio
@Sexy Merc said:

What I really, really don't want is for Danielson to be the first guy to cash in and lose.

Thats what im afraid will happen, or he will lose the briefcase in a match against someone like Cody Rhodes.  
 
As regards to the CM Punk situation. I would love to see Punk go and wrestle in Mexico for a few months, and then have Del Rio cash in the title.
#40 Posted by Jake Fury (18936 posts) - - Show Bio

Raw was alright. I felt like something major was going to happen at the end. The HHH/Vince promo was good for what it was, I really didn't expect a new champ to be crowned on Raw.
#41 Posted by lagoon_boy (10956 posts) - - Show Bio
Bring back the blood, bring back better writers, bring back wrestling!
#42 Posted by progenitor (7551 posts) - - Show Bio
@TheCerealKillz said:
Give me the attitude era back and blood.
#43 Posted by progenitor (7551 posts) - - Show Bio

For the record, I hated the Underbiker gimmick.  I'm glad Triple H is moving up from a wrestling position, he's a shoein for Hall of Fame, and has been my favorite wrestler since I was a kid.  CM Punk is one of the best gems that WWE has to offer nowadays, love his ringwork and his personality and mic time is brilliant.  I would take Punk over Cena for champ any day.  I'm also glad that they pushed The Miz, he may not be as athletically gifted as Morrison, but his personality makes up for it.  Del Rio is just someone I ignore, I never thought much of him.  Orton is good at what he does, but he's almost typecast as what he does, he needs to become more comfortable on the mic, he's stiff.  Finally, HBK, I miss you buddy. =(
#44 Posted by King Saturn (224455 posts) - - Show Bio
at least give Rey Mysterio or The Miz first dibs at CM Punk when he comes back... Do Not throw John Cena right back at CM Punk for the WWE Title
#45 Edited by God_Spawn (38114 posts) - - Show Bio
@King Saturn said:

at least give Rey Mysterio or The Miz first dibs at CM Punk when he comes back... Do Not throw John Cena right back at CM Punk for the WWE Title

There is a high possibility that Cena will get back at Punk whenever he comes back, same goes for Christian who is champ now, Orton and him are gonna have more matches against each other because Ortton's rematch clause, they need to mix stuff up.
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#46 Posted by King Saturn (224455 posts) - - Show Bio
I wonder if Batista will ever come back to the WWE
#47 Posted by Sexy Merc (42076 posts) - - Show Bio

I wouldn't really care if he came back honestly.

#48 Posted by DeathpooltheT1000 (11468 posts) - - Show Bio

Is this about Pro Wrestling or about the WWE male soap opera, jeez, is to bad i am the only person in this forum that knows how awful the WWE was during the Attitude Era.  
Smackdown Six Era was by far better

#49 Posted by cattlebattle (13000 posts) - - Show Bio
@DeathpooltheT1000 said:
Is this about Pro Wrestling or about the WWE male soap opera, jeez, is to bad i am the only person in this forum that knows how awful the WWE was during the Attitude Era.  Smackdown Six Era was by far better
QFT...... WWF/E hasn't been "pro wrestling" since the 70's or earlier
#50 Posted by King Saturn (224455 posts) - - Show Bio
Bob Sapp in the WWE is something that would have been fun to see... but it seems they already have Ezekiel Jackson now... lol