#1 Posted by menaceforever (3696 posts) - - Show Bio

I personally believe that it depends on what's happening. If the cop is not being put in any physical harm I think they should use something non-lethal. When I say non-lethal I don't mean things like tasers and pepper spray. I mean a little shove to the wall. Does anyone remember a man named Oscar Grant. In 2009 a BART police officer shot and killed him for resisting arrest. Things like this is purely the cops fault. Now why do I bring Oscar up specificly. Well that's because my father knew him believe it or not. I can't say how my dad knew him because I don't want my dad to get arrested. Anyway, what do you guys think about it.

#2 Posted by cattlebattle (13401 posts) - - Show Bio

Its completely dependent on the situation

#3 Posted by DocFatalis (1419 posts) - - Show Bio

Are you sure this should be debated on a comics forum?

#4 Posted by menaceforever (3696 posts) - - Show Bio

Nobody visits this forum anymore I decided to spice it up with some new SH!t.

#5 Edited by Funrush (1369 posts) - - Show Bio

@DocFatalis said:

Are you sure this should be debated on a comics forum?

Yeah, this should be in off topic.

(Troll face slowly grows)

It really should, though.

#6 Posted by _slim_ (14229 posts) - - Show Bio

@menaceforever said:

I personally believe that it depends on what's happening. If the cop is not being put in any physical harm I think they should use something non-lethal. When I say non-lethal I don't mean things like tasers and pepper spray. I mean a little shove to the wall. Does anyone remember a man named Oscar Grant. In 2009 a BART police officer shot and killed him for resisting arrest. Things like this is purely the cops fault. Now why do I bring Oscar up specificly. Well that's because my father knew him believe it or not. I can't say how my dad knew him because I don't want my dad to get arrested. Anyway, what do you guys think about it.

Your father was/is about that life, huh? Interesting.

#7 Posted by TheMinister (1131 posts) - - Show Bio

Well around here, a police officer shot a wiener dog for simply barking at him on the peoples porch when he pulled up to a house for a check up. I dont know if that ties into this. I understand if it is a pitbull who is charging at you but a wiener dog, who is sitting on the porch away from you just barking? That is messed up.

In some occasions, it can be a mix of the cop and the person. But in other cases, its the cop. On Youtube, a woman drove into a public area because she did not know if the cop was a real cop. She was in an abandoned area at the time the sirens went on but she felt unsafe so she continued to a highway. Then the police dragged the woman out of the car and beat her a couple times to the ground. I believe she was a fairly old woman.

#8 Posted by YourNeighborhoodComicGeek (20445 posts) - - Show Bio

Nobody visits this forum anymore? There are like 60,000 users.

#9 Posted by Joygirl (19954 posts) - - Show Bio

Guns really shouldn't be involved unless you're going in against hardened criminals or the perp has a gun. Tazers/pepper spray are plenty effective and don't accidentally get normal people murdered. But what do I know.

#10 Posted by Malonius (894 posts) - - Show Bio

I'd say two things. First, the majority of the reasons that people have a negative view of the cops and why cops are in so many dangerous or violent situations is because of the War on Drugs. Prohibition of alcohol didn't work and neither is the prohibition of recreational drugs. It's just caused a giant black market full of money and guns. Second, cops don't seem to understand how to deal with demonstrators and civil disobedience. Maybe they don't care if the laws they're enforcing are just or not. Maybe it's just a job for them and maybe they even like beating up people.

#11 Posted by Malonius (894 posts) - - Show Bio

Also this should be moved to the Off Topic forum.

#12 Posted by joshuagamer (632 posts) - - Show Bio

i agree with the above statement- a lot of the time i do think it starts with the cops

#13 Posted by Swagger462 (382 posts) - - Show Bio

It couldn't be more simple. Your job as a police officer is to enforce the law. There is no grey area. Do the job properly or get a new job. If someone insults a cop he can fine them or lock them up for the night or whatever is protocol in your area. If they assault a cop then the cop can use reasonable force to subdue the criminal. If they do anything that is considered police brutality by the courts than it is their fault every time. If it was anyone else there is a grey area but if your job is specifically to enforce the law there is no excuse for acting outside of it.

#14 Posted by Glitch_Spawn (17132 posts) - - Show Bio

I know the bobbies in my area are all pretty zealous to begin with...

#15 Posted by TheGoldenOne (38789 posts) - - Show Bio
@cattlebattle said:
Its completely dependent on the situation
#16 Edited by utotheg38 (18861 posts) - - Show Bio

Sh!t getting real In the off topic thread

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#17 Posted by lagoon_boy (10878 posts) - - Show Bio

@YourNeighborhoodComicGeek said:

Nobody visits this forum anymore? There are like 60,000 users.
#18 Posted by KingAweSam (18 posts) - - Show Bio

@Joygirl said:

Guns really shouldn't be involved unless you're going in against hardened criminals or the perp has a gun. Tazers/pepper spray are plenty effective and don't accidentally get normal people murdered. But what do I know.

So, you should wait until someone pulls a gun on you? Smart... Tasers do kill, it's a been an issue for years.

#19 Posted by 0n1zuka (3707 posts) - - Show Bio

@lagoon_boy said:

@YourNeighborhoodComicGeek said:

Nobody visits this forum anymore? There are like 60,000 users.

I'd say that he was talking about the particular forum he started this thread in, which I assume was General Discussion.

#20 Posted by krilling (2488 posts) - - Show Bio

When the cop shoves him/her than he does his job. There's nothing wrong with that. Beating or harrasing the victim is the bullcrap what's offending.

#21 Posted by WaveMotionCannon (5685 posts) - - Show Bio

Most of the time it's the cops. You have your racist cops, scared nervous cops, over aggressive just got out of the military guys, and your guys that were cowards before they got out of the academy and now they're the hardest thing on the street because someone finally has their back and they have a HUGE chip on their shoulders. I have family and friends in law enforcement and I've asked this question to them plenty of times.

#22 Posted by WaveMotionCannon (5685 posts) - - Show Bio

My bad let me also clarify there are plenty of good cops that treat people with respect even when some of them don't deserve it and really need fire smacked outta their @ss!

#23 Posted by InnerVenom123 (29510 posts) - - Show Bio

@cattlebattle said:

Its completely dependent on the situation