#1 Posted by Illuminatus (9509 posts) - - Show Bio
#2 Posted by minigunman123 (3116 posts) - - Show Bio

To be honest, the only difference between drones and planes, is that people don't have to die if drones are shot down. Other than that, they're very similar, people shooting people from the air. They're still controlled from people, just remotely, as opposed to inside the vehicle itself.

Cold War between US and China? I thought the US and China were in a Cold War since the Korean War.

#3 Posted by Illuminatus (9509 posts) - - Show Bio

@minigunman123 said:

To be honest, the only difference between drones and planes, is that people don't have to die if drones are shot down. Other than that, they're very similar, people shooting people from the air. They're still controlled from people, just remotely, as opposed to inside the vehicle itself.

Cold War between US and China? I thought the US and China were in a Cold War since the Korean War.

The theory is that this will lead to a pioneering of a new type of weapon, which would be robots that are programmed to carry out functions in war and let the people sit back and simply wait to fix them if need be.

You're thinking of Russia. China has really only come into it's own in the last two decades or so, after the fall of the USSR in particular.

#4 Posted by KingUranus (218 posts) - - Show Bio

Back to Uranus we go.

#5 Posted by Xanni15 (6758 posts) - - Show Bio

This reminds of Skyfall, and a scene between Q and Bond.

Q: I can do more damage on my laptop in my pyjamas than you can do in a year in the field.

James Bond: Then what do you need me for?

Q: Every now and then a trigger has to be pulled.

James Bond: Or not pulled. It's hard to know which in your pyjamas... Q.

I know it's for safety and protecting lives but this just seems ridiculous to me, drones give you a lot of information but there are times when it can make a mistake. Also, who's flying them? Kids that are good at CoD or Halo?

I didn't know anyone needed more powerful bombs/missiles than they currently have.

#6 Posted by minigunman123 (3116 posts) - - Show Bio

@KingUranus said:

Back to Uranus we go.

No homo?

@Illuminatus said:

@minigunman123 said:

To be honest, the only difference between drones and planes, is that people don't have to die if drones are shot down. Other than that, they're very similar, people shooting people from the air. They're still controlled from people, just remotely, as opposed to inside the vehicle itself.

Cold War between US and China? I thought the US and China were in a Cold War since the Korean War.

The theory is that this will lead to a pioneering of a new type of weapon, which would be robots that are programmed to carry out functions in war and let the people sit back and simply wait to fix them if need be.

You're thinking of Russia. China has really only come into it's own in the last two decades or so, after the fall of the USSR in particular.

We're a little ways off from that type of robot being accurate and bug-free enough to deploy in the field, methinks. I've programmed AI for a while and I can tell you there's no real efficient, precise way of determining who's friendly, who's unfriendly, where/what the target is, geography of the terrain, and being able to dodge enemy fire and more, without some large measure of human interraction. The best we have right now are cruise missiles and the like. I can see robots happening in maybe 10 years.

China's always been a bit of a sticky area. They do plenty of things that are questionable at best, so I figured we'd been in a "hostile but non-war" attitude for a little while now. I'll just take a look at the link in the OP.

#7 Posted by InnerVenom123 (29500 posts) - - Show Bio

This will surely end well.

#8 Posted by KingUranus (218 posts) - - Show Bio

@minigunman123 said:

@KingUranus said:

Back to Uranus we go.

No homo?

Yes, homosapien.

#9 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (33360 posts) - - Show Bio

Iran and North Korea have Combat Drones for years, Pakistan doesn't make a difference

#10 Posted by Illuminatus (9509 posts) - - Show Bio

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

Iran and North Korea have Combat Drones for years, Pakistan doesn't make a difference

Given North Korea's recent...um..mishaps with anything aerial, I wouldn't be too worried about their drones at any rate, assuming they can even take off. :p

Pakistan doing this will really only piss off one nation more than any other: India.

#11 Posted by Dernman (15074 posts) - - Show Bio

This reminds me of a tv special I watched when I was younger about Nostradamus were they were interpreting some of his predictions. One of them was about the end of the world and there was war all across the globe with high tech weapons that people were not personally involved and were actually far away from the battlefield

#12 Posted by nick_hero22 (6869 posts) - - Show Bio

Mediocre Combat Drones won't make much of a difference

#13 Posted by Dark_Fang (545 posts) - - Show Bio

Don't see why they shouldn't have drones.

#14 Posted by Edamame (28136 posts) - - Show Bio

Not surprising. China and America have the two highest military expenditures in the world right now. China also has a lot of political and economic power (It is a permanent member of the U.N. Security Council, and it has the second largest economy in the world). So increasing military power will make people around the world respect China. China is also trying to flex its military muscle because it doesn't get along too well with Japan, and there have been some territorial disputes in particular East Asian regions. It is actually affecting the Japanese economy right now.

Furthermore, Russia is currently undergoing a military upgrade. Hundreds of billions of dollars were spent on this. Putin made sure of that. I guess Russia is trying to show that it will remain the most powerful country on the Asian continent.

#15 Posted by 4donkeyjohnson (1673 posts) - - Show Bio

Thus begins Skynet...

#16 Posted by Illuminatus (9509 posts) - - Show Bio

@Edamame: Well, the Chinese have been posturing and even attempting to pass themselves off as tougher than they actually seem to be.

For example, they claimed the would "intervene" or something to that effect if NATO launched an assault on Libya. Hu Jintao was adamant about not letting the US and the rest of NATO disrupt the current status-quo in the Middle East/Northern Africa. And yet, China did nothing.

I don't agree with these acts of aggression against sovereign countries, and the one in Libya was particularly unconstitutional on President Obama's part, but really, I think that China is still trying to find their place in this new balance of power. They only just bought and refurbished their first aircraft carrier, because they were apparently unable to construct their own.

If anything, it'll take China ten years at the least to become a legitimate military power that can wage war across the board in every regard, and even pick and choose the next theater of war. Russia, on the other hand, has been working towards this ever since the fall of the USSR. Its only natural, really, and Putin is certainly thinking long-term for the Federation.

#17 Posted by Edamame (28136 posts) - - Show Bio

@Illuminatus said:

@Edamame: Well, the Chinese have been posturing and even attempting to pass themselves off as tougher than they actually seem to be.

For example, they claimed the would "intervene" or something to that effect if NATO launched an assault on Libya. Hu Jintao was adamant about not letting the US and the rest of NATO disrupt the current status-quo in the Middle East/Northern Africa. And yet, China did nothing.

I don't agree with these acts of aggression against sovereign countries, and the one in Libya was particularly unconstitutional on President Obama's part, but really, I think that China is still trying to find their place in this new balance of power. They only just bought and refurbished their first aircraft carrier, because they were apparently unable to construct their own.

If anything, it'll take China ten years at the least to become a legitimate military power that can wage war across the board in every regard, and even pick and choose the next theater of war. Russia, on the other hand, has been working towards this ever since the fall of the USSR. Its only natural, really, and Putin is certainly thinking long-term for the Federation.

Yes, that is what big countries like to do. :)

The former Soviet Union loved to have those huge military parades in Moscow in order to strike fear into its enemies, but it didn't really mean much in reality. I guess you can call that 'psychological warfare'.

I would say that China can only engage America politically. China would never attack America economically or military because both nations are economically interdependent and both nations have hundreds of nuclear weapons. So, those options are thankfully out of the window. There are plenty of hacking issues, though. I also hear that there are/have been quite a few Chinese spies in the United States as of late. So that is something to pay attention to. It is important to remember that there were Soviet spies who were monitoring The Manhattan Project in the 1940s. It wouldn't be good if America's advanced military technology were stolen or even hacked into.

You are absolutely right. China is simply trying to bully other small nations in the region, and these territorial disputes are often over resources, such as oil. The U.S. is trying to militarily contain China by having military bases and soldiers in the Philippines, South Korea, Japan, Australia and Thailand.

Absolutely. China has a very long way in order for it to achieve complete military equality with the United States. Its air force is rather large, but it doesn't have NATO's advanced military technology, and even Japan's navy has a slight upper-hand over China's navy. Of course, most of the big island nations (Great Britain, Japan, etc.) have always had powerful navies. It's just that China has the largest army (number of soldiers/troops) in the world.

Russia has a lot of problems with Terrorism, Georgia, etc. Also, Putin is former KGB guy. I am sure that he has big plans. Then, there is still that Cold War fear of China as both nations had a seven-month long border conflict along Manchuria and Kazakhstan. Ironically, most of Russia's nuclear weapons are pointed at China and Europe. At least that is what I have read and heard. Russia doesn't want to see another Operation Barbarossa (or Eastern Front) again. That is for sure.