No Church for Christians

@veshark: The only suggestion I can give is to pray and believe that God can help you find a honest church

That is exactly what I do. I ask him to "put me wherever YOU want me to be".

Wish you all the best. God bless.

Yes.

They are needed.

Supply and demand.

@cezar_thescribe:

They are needed.

For? I understand some churches do a lot for homeless and people in need but that has nothing to do with worship.

Where I live there is a church every mile and a half or so. Not all Christian but still.

A church is no different then a gamestop or mcdonalds. if there is a demand for them, they will be built.

Helping people is part of the Bible. There's more than just sitting in a building.

A church is much different than a store.

Some are not built out of "demand."

@cezar_thescribe: a church and store are the same in an economic way. that is why I said supply and demand. who builds a church when there is no demand for one? that makes no sense

Not really. I am not talking about 501c3 "churches." Also, you forgot about house churches.

It would make sense if you knew anything about the Bible.

@cezar_thescribe: I'll learn about the bible when you learn Economics 101. you don't build something unless someone wants it built.

I know them.

Maybe, God wants them built. ;)

Faith and business are not the same thing.

Oh please. I find every comment here pointing out what mrdecepticon said as off-topic and flame-baiting just as ridiculous as claiming it's prejudicial and hate-mongering. Didn't like it? Too bad. He mentioned churches are tax-exempt, I agreed pointing out all religious buildings are and the unfairness of it and while not specific to the OP's question, it's about church. Shall we go through every topic in these forums with a fine-tooth comb and complain about posts which may be off-topic to a thread?

Don't like the post? Ignore it. If you find it irrelevant, or even stupid, ignore it. Crying sour grapes does nothing but reveal your own issues and put out a false attempt of making a statement which rings hollow since it's not universally applied throughout the off-topic forums. Also, accusing people of hate-mongering and prejudice is not going to be left unchallenged.

Give me a break.

Oh -- and knock yourself out responding to me as it will be ignored by me. You know, because of I am capable of that.

You don't build a church(building) with faith. Religion is a multi billion dollar industry. Churches can cost hundreds of thousands of dollars to build. You need money, property, maintenance, bills, building supplies etc just like any other business. Would there be a Christian church on every corner in a Muslim nation? No. Because there is no demand for christian churches in Muslim nations. Supply and demand has nothing to do with faith, but it has a lot to do with building churches.

You're showing your ignorance. False faith is a multi-billion dollar industry. Some people are in house churches that costs next to nothing.

@cezar_thescribe: ARE YOU SERIOUS or just going full retard? Even real Christians buy real churches that cost money to make. Even the temple in Jesus time took donations. Even a house church needs money to function. Those house churches wouldn't be needed if NOBODY WANTED TO GO. What do you not understand? A mega church or even the smallest house church would not exist if there was no DEMAND for one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The "churches" accepting sodomites are false.

Christmas, Easter, and so forth are fine.

Colossians 2:16 (KJV)

16: Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:

Romans 14: 5-7 (KJV)

5: One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.

6: He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks.

7: For none of us liveth to himself, and no man dieth to himself.

@cezar_thescribe: Christmas, Easter, and so forth are fine.

False. xmas and easter are pagan holidays that worship false gods and idols. The xmas tree, the star on top of the tree, the bunny, the eggs all were rituals used to worship false gods. They are bringing pagan rituals into the house of God. that is unacceptable

1 Cor 10:7

1 John 10:21

Don't see how it's unfair churches are tax-exempt, when they're for a person's own development.

No, not really. Though I myself am nowhere near a perfect example, so there's that. But I don't think so. Let me think back on why.

you worship God in your love for the Other and your everyday actions.

going to church is good because most are great reflective and spiritual places where one can find himself/herself and encounter peace or solve problems of the mind.

but it shouldn't be mandatory in any way.

God is love, so, just be love people. quite simple. no need to go to a specific place every specific day to hear specific words, specially since they usually change from church to church and immensely change from protestant, to catholic to orthodox institutions.

@lykopis I was trying to defuse the situation to prevent it from escalating to another flame war - you need to relax. I wasn't saying that you two were going off-topic, or even that it was directly flame bait (note my use of the word 'borderline'), but a comment like that just threatens to incite conflict. Cool the rant.

No, correct.

Reread the verses I gave you.

QFT

THANK YOU!!!!

Razz is only saying that because it means that she has less work to do as a moderator >.>

LAZY

Read the origins of xmas/easter.

Listen to me and preachers who know more than you. ;)

@cezar_thescribe:

Proverbs 18:2

The JAMES MODLISH preaching and teaching page Go to and click... What is Christmas really about?

Colossians 2:16 (KJV)

16: Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:

Romans 14: 5-7 (KJV)

5: One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.

6: He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks.

7: For none of us liveth to himself, and no man dieth to himself

I go to church but I am now a Christian so there is not a cause and effect there. I am UU. But, I have read a lot of books and articles on religion and one thing I do know is that the various Christian denominations agree on very little. It is kind of cute. So addressing a question to Christians as a whole is not going to get you an answer.

Going to a church makes you about as close to god as standing in a garage makes you a car.

Jealousy is a sin also?