I decided to make a thread of this since its Chris Columbus day. You know interesting fact, Chris Columbus and his men use to hunt indians down for sport. Killing them, raping them and feasting on their bodies. And it got me thinking, why have Indians always been considered the bad guys in history of this country? Remember the old western films were the cowboys would hunt the indians and beat them cause they were the bad guys. It just that I never understood why indians got so much flack and were considered enemies. Maybe someone on this site could enlighten me on that.
Whoops? In my country the indians were always the good guys... well, to be fair, it was the indians who were Mohicans that were the heroes. Things got confusing though cause the bad native Americans had mohawks, sorta. Also did not help that Magua was played by Sagat, the guy from Street Fighter. That was a really bad movie though. So maybe thats...
We never supported Columbus day in my family for 2 reasons, 1. Because Europeans discovered America in the same since as a thief discovers your car stereo and 2. because Columbus was a bum who only found the western hemisphere out of pure dumb luck
I decided to make a thread of this since its Chris Columbus day. You know interesting fact, Chris Columbus and his men use to hunt indians down for sport. Killing them, raping them and feasting on their bodies. And it got me thinking, why have Indians always been considered the bad guys in history of this country? Remember the old western films were the cowboys would hunt the indians and beat them cause they were the bad guys. It just that I never understood why indians got so much flack and were considered enemies. Maybe someone on this site could enlighten me on that.
Maybe it's because Americans are not educated in Native American culture.
For example: they are not Indians. They're only called that because Columbus got lost.
@joshmightbe said:
We never supported Columbus day in my family for 2 reasons, 1. Because Europeans discovered America in the same since as a thief discovers your car stereo and 2. because Columbus was a bum who only found the western hemisphere out of pure dumb luck
Hear, hear! Now how about Leif Ericson day? It's a lot more appropriate.
From what I learnt in History, the Indians were the good guys.
They were but this country made them as bad guys like for example how in alot of western films the indians are the villians and the cowboys are the good guys.
From what I learnt in History, the Indians were the good guys.
They were but this country made them as bad guys like for example how in alot of western films the indians are the villians and the cowboys are the good guys.
If you watch Western-films from the 50s, then yeah, but the recent ones (1980s perhaps - Now) they are okay with portrayl.
From what I learnt in History, the Indians were the good guys.
They were but this country made them as bad guys like for example how in alot of western films the indians are the villians and the cowboys are the good guys.
If you watch Western-films from the 50s, then yeah, but the recent ones (1980s perhaps - Now) they are okay with portrayl.
You guys still call them Indians? Man talk about progress! Nyehehehe!
Seriously, that's just how more powerful cultures portray their defeated enemies. Persia was demonized by the hellenistic dynasties, Carthage had its reputation raped by Rome, Europeans made a villain out of Native Americans. It's human nature. Every victorious side claims "We defeated them savages! We are heroes!"
I decided to make a thread of this since its Chris Columbus day. You know interesting fact, Chris Columbus and his men use to hunt indians down for sport. Killing them, raping them and feasting on their bodies
what the hell? is this true? what a maniac
And it got me thinking, why have Indians always been considered the bad guys in history of this country?
@SilverGalford: Apparently stubbornly trying to keep people from stealing your land and not just allowing the army to kill you makes you a bad guy to some people
@SilverGalford: Apparently stubbornly trying to keep people from stealing your land and not just allowing the army to kill you makes you a bad guy to some people
We flipped our finger to the King of England. Stole our country from the Indians. With God on our side and guns in our hands, we took it for our own. A nation dedicated to liberty, justice and equality. Does it look that way to you? It doesn't look that way to me. The sickest joke I know.
The term Indians was used by chris because he thought he landed in the east indies. which was not the case. so right from the get go history has them by the wrong name. This should have been a sign things were going to get worse for the rest of the inhabitants of North America at the that time. Even Canada itself, the name means village. Bad interpretation from one of the members of the expedition to make good relations with the locals thought that Ka'na'da meant Nation in which they all lived.
But lets look at things like this. The natives were lied too, tricked into trading for land which there was no ownership and forced further into the interior where they often fought amongst other tribes as well as the pioneers who kept moving deeper into there territory. Oh and later on they push further west and start giving small pox and other diseases to the locals. Sitting Bull tried to fight for the freedoms of his people and he put his trust in the canadian government even had some friends but canada was forced to send sitting bull back to america which he was later murdered. later on many of the so called "Good Christians" at the time wanted to intergrate the "Heathen" tribes into "Normal, Civilized" society. Many of the children who were raised in these places of worship were often beaten,raped and humiliated up till the days of the almost mid 20th century.
The closest thing Ive seen in pop culture that uses a mix of some of the styles and traditions of most of the first nations is World of Warcraft, those who don't know would be the race called the Tauren. One of my favorite races in the game and they are part of the horde. but thats a story for another time.
I meant no offence. That's how we call them in our country (and I thinkt the politically correct monstrosities like "Afro-American" or "Native American" are horrible).
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