Poll Movie Wars Catwoman: Michelle Pfeiffer or Anne Hathaway (46 votes)
Michelle Pfeiffer 52%
Anne Hathaway 46%
Who is better?
Movie Wars Catwoman: Michelle Pfeiffer or Anne Hathaway
Julie Newmar is the only Catwoman so far I liked.
@lilben42 said:
@deathpoolthet1000: Yeah I was going to put them in here but I just figured to do more of the modern ones and to stick with the movies. Partly because I'm doing this on my tablet and my tablet isn't that good.
But Lee Meriwether was Catwoman in the 1966 movie.
Did you remember this?
That was in the movie, ok only some parts, but still.
Also Golden Age Batman was terribly more reallistic that Burton and Burton villains are nothing like the golden age villains.
The Joker was using make up and was pretty much Heath Ledger without the scars.
Catwoman said she had amnesia and only remember cats, she wasnt a cat lady that go powers from a Cat, even later we find out her so called origin was a lie, she became Catwoman because of her abusive husband.
Osawld only had problem for the fact he looked like a bird and was a thief, he was never raised by animals in the sewers and then try to became the king of the world.
@matteopg said:
@silent_bomber: sorry I pissed you off, I didn't mean to.
You didn't, that's just how I argue
@matteopg said:
@silent_bomber: You may be interested in knowing that Burton himself admitted to never having read any Batman and taking inspiration from secondary sources.
Actually he read and loved Killing Joke, and his recommendation is on the cover. Though it is true that he hasn't read that many comics, he mentions something about dyslexia making it difficult for him to read the panels in one interview.
Joker's bodyguard in the first movie was actually (most likely) from the Killing Joke, which I thought was pretty cool.
Tim Burton was the director anyway, not the writer, everything that happened in the first movie was written by Sam Hamm, except Joker killing Bruce's parents, and Vicki Vale being let into the Batcave, which were alterations made in his absence.
Similarities between Batman 1989 and Golden Age Batman -
This stuff is mainly taken from this website http://gothamalleys.blogspot.co.uk/2011/08/comic-book-references-in-movies-part-i.html
Batman's first appearance was on a rooftop with two thugs, his first case was amongst chemicals and had someone fall into a vat
All of this is from the first Batman appearance, Detective Comics 27 -
Other Stuff regarding Batman during the 40s
Golden Age Joker
Golden Age Joker was originally a gangster before the fall, the idea of him being a patsy didn't come until the 80s
Other stuff from 40s Joker stories -
And these pictures aren't covering a long period of time, or a large number of comics, virtually all of these are taken during the first 10 odd appearances of the two characters, the only one that isn't is the Joker origin picture IIRC.
Anyway, more on topic, some Catwoman scans from one Golden Age story
Catwoman said she had amnesia and only remember cats, she wasnt a cat lady that got powers from a Cat
Arguably neither did Pfeifer, the film is ambiguous on whether the cats actually do anything, or whether she simply survives the fall due to the shop parapets breaking her fall enough that she isn't killed, every time she "dies" something breaks her fall, and the gun at the end was laying around in water before Shreck found it and may be misfiring.
In the original script they also mentioned that she had taken martial arts lessons prior to being knocked out the window, and was good but had no confidence, but this was cut from the final film.
Also Catwoman in the comic isn't just an amnesiac who remembers cats, she is a woman who was average who hit her head and had a complete personality change, becoming a super villain, and using a cat motif due to remembering cats.
even later we find out her so called origin was a lie, she became Catwoman because of her abusive husband.
Yes, its called a retcon, its when a new writer craps all over the work of earlier writers in an attempt to make a name for themselves. In this case it was warranted, as her original origin was a bit "wacky" but when strictly discussing Golden Age characters being adapted, things which happened after the Golden Age are irrelevant (much like Joker originally being a gangster instead of a patsy).
Oswald only had problem for the fact he looked like a bird and was a thief, he was never raised by animals in the sewers and then try to became the king of the world.
Yeah his origin was completely changed, much like Zsasz in the Nolan movies (and arguably some other characters)
He doesn't try to become king of the world, he runs for mayor, this is seemingly a direct homage to an episode of the Adam West show called "Hizzoner the Penguin" where he did exactly the same thing (and the art gallery scene in the original Batman is a direct homage to the Adam West episode "Pop Goes The joker"), remember that the mainstream public during the 80s almost wholly associated Batman with the Adam West show, only after the huge success of the Burton movies did things turn around.
Eating fish, squawking, strapping rockets to Penguins backs, and novelty umbrella's that allow him to fly and such are all from Golden Age Batman though, so there are some accuracies to the comic there.
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