Lil Kim straight MURDERED Nicki Minaj

" @King Saturn:  Wow looking at the ratings not a lot of people are exposed to the heavy hitters of hip hop.
Canibus - 10 (He can thank Stoupe for Rip The Jacker's production, insane lyricist though.) 
Vinnie Paz - 9.5 (Just because I want him to spit like it's 1997 again) 
Redman - 6.5 (Funny punches but ehh.)
Ludacris - 6.7 (Delivery & a bunch of mediocre metaphors + funny songs = That's it?)
Talib Kweli - 7.5 (Not a big Talib fan)
Eminem - 8 (Shocker right? I think it's the nostalga giving him this rating.)
Drake - 3 (Whack rappers....smh)
Planet Asia - 8.5 (This is a win)
Nas - 8 (He gets my respect, his delivery is on point but I don't think he's that amazing.) 
Crooked I - 7.5 (Not a big fan of Crooked I)
Inspectah Deck - 9.5 (For What he was at the time I have to give it to him.) 
 

Nikki manaj is trash, and shut that up about that ''relevant crap'' if lil wayne didn't rap for 8 years he would still be relevant, same thing goes for lil kim, ''she's in the legendary lane'' ''no female mc can see kim-The notorious B.I.G. People are also getting ''who sells more records'' confused with talent, as my friend in the other thread said, Wake Up

" @Dark Zoom: Well Notorious is wrong. Jean Grae, Lauryn Hill, Mama Sol, Kaotic, MC Lyte and a few other femme fatales are light years beyond Kim when it comes to talent my man.   Lil Wayne is only relevant because he talks about constants. What the stereotypical swagger rapper raps about: money, cars, clothes, hoes, bad bragging and of course the simple simon metaphors. That's not relevancy that's a pathetic attempt to increase his own longevity because he doesn't have the skills to stay relevant, expand others knowledge, blow mind with metaphors & imagery, or tell a vivid story. Lil Wayne is grossly overrated.  "

" @Wise Son said:

" @Dark Zoom: Well Notorious is wrong. Jean Grae, Lauryn Hill, Mama Sol, Kaotic, MC Lyte and a few other femme fatales are light years beyond Kim when it comes to talent my man.   Lil Wayne is only relevant because he talks about constants. What the stereotypical swagger rapper raps about: money, cars, clothes, hoes, bad bragging and of course the simple simon metaphors. That's not relevancy that's a pathetic attempt to increase his own longevity because he doesn't have the skills to stay relevant, expand others knowledge, blow mind with metaphors & imagery, or tell a vivid story. Lil Wayne is grossly overrated.  "

Your getting the term ''relevant'' confused, the first part of your post is opinion, the second, you confuse relevancy, the 3rd and the fourth are common sense "

" @Dark Zoom said:

" @Wise Son said:

" @Dark Zoom: Well Notorious is wrong. Jean Grae, Lauryn Hill, Mama Sol, Kaotic, MC Lyte and a few other femme fatales are light years beyond Kim when it comes to talent my man.   Lil Wayne is only relevant because he talks about constants. What the stereotypical swagger rapper raps about: money, cars, clothes, hoes, bad bragging and of course the simple simon metaphors. That's not relevancy that's a pathetic attempt to increase his own longevity because he doesn't have the skills to stay relevant, expand others knowledge, blow mind with metaphors & imagery, or tell a vivid story. Lil Wayne is grossly overrated.  "

Your getting the term ''relevant'' confused, the first part of your post is opinion, the second, you confuse relevancy, the 3rd and the fourth are common sense "

Have you listened to a good portion of any of the females I listed bodies of work? It's apparent they have more skill then Nicki and Kim. It's no an opinion when it's proven to be fact. You couldn't say honestly as a rap virtuoso that Kim is better then Jean Grae. If you do then all your credit is null. I don't think I confused relevancy at all. It's not relevant when you talk about constants just saying. Alrighty, so why point it out? "

  Compare people.  

" @Dark Zoom: Mmmm, pancake break....Anyways, dude are you serious? When people say that it usually means they don't have a legitimate argument in the first place and if you're throwing up stuff sub par rappers have said then I'm inclined to believe you don't. Especially if you seem to not want to discuss it. Don't start being condescending as it's the most passive aggressive disrespectful thing you could do in a debate. Change the tampon and instead of getting flustered and spouting off about different points when you're not giving them any backing at all other then "I SAID SO, I'M RIGHT, YOU'RE WRONG." At least I'm comparing the two rappers you can't even answer a simple question about if you've heard these rappers. And before you say I insinuated look at my first sentence. It's a question, you're the one assuming Zoom. All I'm trying to do is figure out do you have a good enough grasp on hip hop to be talking down to me like you are. And as far as relevancy goes, I don't have it wrong. I know what you are trying to say but I don't feel talking about constants makes you relevant. Sorry. "

" @Wise Son said:

" @Dark Zoom said:

" @Wise Son said:

" @Dark Zoom: Well Notorious is wrong. Jean Grae, Lauryn Hill, Mama Sol, Kaotic, MC Lyte and a few other femme fatales are light years beyond Kim when it comes to talent my man.   Lil Wayne is only relevant because he talks about constants. What the stereotypical swagger rapper raps about: money, cars, clothes, hoes, bad bragging and of course the simple simon metaphors. That's not relevancy that's a pathetic attempt to increase his own longevity because he doesn't have the skills to stay relevant, expand others knowledge, blow mind with metaphors & imagery, or tell a vivid story. Lil Wayne is grossly overrated.  "

Your getting the term ''relevant'' confused, the first part of your post is opinion, the second, you confuse relevancy, the 3rd and the fourth are common sense "

Have you listened to a good portion of any of the females I listed bodies of work? It's apparent they have more skill then Nicki and Kim. It's no an opinion when it's proven to be fact. You couldn't say honestly as a rap virtuoso that Kim is better then Jean Grae. If you do then all your credit is null. I don't think I confused relevancy at all. It's not relevant when you talk about constants just saying. Alrighty, so why point it out? "

Now your starting to assume, god i hate that, YOU do have relevancy confused, and i cant explain to you the main point if you don't know the basics "

" @King Saturn: She certainly is but according to Zoom here I don't know what I'm talking about. The proof is in the videos. Regardless of opinion you'd have to be overly biased or provincial to say Nicki is better then Jean Grae. "

" @King Saturn: She certainly is but according to Zoom here I don't know what I'm talking about. The proof is in the videos. Regardless of opinion you'd have to be overly biased or provincial to say Nicki is better then Jean Grae. "

" @King Saturn: Rakim da God MC! You're on a roll tonight. Primo did a good job on this. 
 
@Dark Zoom: Dude you're piling up the contradiction here. In your last post you stated multiple times that I didn't know what I'm talking about. It's all there in black and white, clear as crystal. YOU STOLE FIZZY LIFT- ohhh sorry I watched Willie Wonka today. But my point still stands. You keep contradicting yourself by saying you didn't say stuff that you did.That's not even close to being a metaphysical, novel concept and stop being so dang condescending. For you to apparently be older then I am you're the one acting a like a freshman in high school with no rhyme or reason to what they say. It's middle school crap really. You've said you're done with the conversation like three or four times. Bye, be gone. Haha, it's simple. I should be writing too but you wouldn't want to hear about that because I write elementary rhymes nowhere near close to the Plato level poems you're surely writing. You making money however has nothing to do with me so why bring it up? Is that suppose to impress me? Ooo I can't wait for those results. That's sarcasm, something we learned today in class. *gasp* there is goes again. Dude you have completely missed the point of every line I have made in this thread. I like good MCs, what is not getting through to you. What Gucci Mane rider has ever claimed to love Jean Grae? I'll wait.......Answer: none. You don't make sense at all.   "