Where do we go when we die? In my personal opinion we simply cease to exsist. All that heaven nonsense was so people do not have to despair and will enjoy reading the bible (the big book of legends) Thats my two cents
i hope theirs something after death...hell i dont want to relive this life again thats for sure. maybe another life but not this one...well not every part of it.
"so you don't believe in any force of nature that could be construed as Supernatural or mystical in nature? M"
the furthest I will go is I believe there is a cosmic balance, but after that your gonna need hard facts and proof to back up what you got"
i'm not questioning what you're saying...
anything that is going to be said in this thread it all going to be speculation and 'faith'.
out of personal belief, i don't believe is a Christian God, or Devil... but rather a 'balance' as you put it, which is central to the Wiccan belief system
I'm catholic and i think i believe in heaven and hell but I'm not sure what i believe in. I think reincarnation would be cool to restart your life. Their is a girl at my school and she is christian or catholic and she keeps talking about the end of the world is coming and we better give our selves to jesus or we would be stuck on earth and the devil will toture us. She really freaked me out
i'm a bit more of a... how do I put this. Selfish bastard. I will screw over people to make money. However I do this because I dont beleive that I break any "sins" cause there are no "sins" to break. And anyways in the begining we were chaotic, maybe we were made that way. (check up on some Rousseau)
"its something to look forward to when your old and grey (if we make it that long) i do not fear it at all anymore. i see that its just the end of a cycle our cycle, may it be soon or may it be in the far future it will come to us all. "
its something to look forward to when your old and grey (if we make it that long)
i do not fear it at all anymore. i see that its just the end of a cycle our cycle, may it be soon or may it be in the far future it will come to us all.
so you don't fear never being able to breathe again or see again. And to think or remember stuff?"
No, I don't fear death, I accept it as a reality and something that everyone must go through"
Then wy dont you kill yourlsef? NO seriously, I'm not saying you should. But I mean if u have no fear then y not simply end it. I mean you've had problems... ur definitely going to have them in the future, so y not just avoid them. But you wont, because this is all talk. In a deferent situation you'd be singing a different tune.
"its something to look forward to when your old and grey (if we make it that long) i do not fear it at all anymore. i see that its just the end of a cycle our cycle, may it be soon or may it be in the far future it will come to us all. "
how close have you been to death?"
almost died when i was born. too complicated to get into detail
One surgery went wrong when i was child and i almost died.
Fell off a fallen tree landing on my back with a branch a centimeter from my head
and other ways i dont feel like talking about.
but thats not what gavve me the outlook. its seeing the ones around me go that did. and seeing that they were in pain and were not when they passed. along with alot of classes,books, and discussions on the subject i have my way of thinking
so you don't fear never being able to breathe again or see again. And to think or remember stuff?"
No, I don't fear death, I accept it as a reality and something that everyone must go through"
Then wy dont you kill yourlsef? NO seriously, I'm not saying you should. But I mean if u have no fear then y not simply end it. I mean you've had problems... ur definitely going to have them in the future, so y not just avoid them. But you wont, because this is all talk. In a deferent situation you'd be singing a different tune."
man u just ruined it man.
you almost went two entire pages making sense and not sounding like a douchebag but you couldnt help it could u
so you don't fear never being able to breathe again or see again. And to think or remember stuff?"
No, I don't fear death, I accept it as a reality and something that everyone must go through"
Then wy dont you kill yourlsef? NO seriously, I'm not saying you should. But I mean if u have no fear then y not simply end it. I mean you've had problems... ur definitely going to have them in the future, so y not just avoid them. But you wont, because this is all talk. In a deferent situation you'd be singing a different tune."
I'm not going to even justify this post with an intelligent answer.
so you don't fear never being able to breathe again or see again. And to think or remember stuff?"
No, I don't fear death, I accept it as a reality and something that everyone must go through"
Then wy dont you kill yourlsef? NO seriously, I'm not saying you should. But I mean if u have no fear then y not simply end it. I mean you've had problems... ur definitely going to have them in the future, so y not just avoid them. But you wont, because this is all talk. In a deferent situation you'd be singing a different tune."
man u just ruined it man. you almost went two entire pages making sense and not sounding like a douchebag but you couldnt help it could u"
dude read the argument its perfectly logical, if you have absolutely not a single fear of death then it should be no problem. I know many people say that people who commit suicide are cowards, but personally I could never do that. your problems have to outweigh ur sense of survival. However few people cann overide there sense of survival
so you don't fear never being able to breathe again or see again. And to think or remember stuff?"
No, I don't fear death, I accept it as a reality and something that everyone must go through"
Then wy dont you kill yourlsef? NO seriously, I'm not saying you should. But I mean if u have no fear then y not simply end it. I mean you've had problems... ur definitely going to have them in the future, so y not just avoid them. But you wont, because this is all talk. In a deferent situation you'd be singing a different tune."
man u just ruined it man. you almost went two entire pages making sense and not sounding like a douchebag but you couldnt help it could u"
dude read the argument its perfectly logical, if you have absolutely not a single fear of death then it should be no problem. I know many people say that people who commit suicide are cowards, but personally I could never do that. your problems have to outweigh ur sense of survival. However few people cann overide there sense of survival"
so youre saying if youre not afraid of death then you should just kill yourself? that doesnt make sense. there are lots of things you may not be afraid of, but that doesnt mean you should seek them out. i'm not afraid of getting hit by a car, should i jump out in front of one?
so you don't fear never being able to breathe again or see again. And to think or remember stuff?"
No, I don't fear death, I accept it as a reality and something that everyone must go through"
Then wy dont you kill yourlsef? NO seriously, I'm not saying you should. But I mean if u have no fear then y not simply end it. I mean you've had problems... ur definitely going to have them in the future, so y not just avoid them. But you wont, because this is all talk. In a deferent situation you'd be singing a different tune."
man u just ruined it man. you almost went two entire pages making sense and not sounding like a douchebag but you couldnt help it could u"
dude read the argument its perfectly logical, if you have absolutely not a single fear of death then it should be no problem. I know many people say that people who commit suicide are cowards, but personally I could never do that. your problems have to outweigh ur sense of survival. However few people cann overide there sense of survival"
i understood what you meant behind what you were saying, its just the way you said it.
And you do not need to prove you are afraid of something by doing the opposite. and the topic of suicide only brings the emotions of the person to life i hate when people think that at age 14 that they will never love again and attempt suicide. im not saying i have never tried and or thought about it. but the fact behind my thoughts was not waaaa im lonly...but some people really do suffer from depression i am one of them. and sucicde sometimes seems the only way so i dont bark at too many people about it. unless im in a very bad mood and the are just doing to to get attention and u know those people. but many are sad and i mean deeply saddened...wow im done i just went right off topic again.
so you don't fear never being able to breathe again or see again. And to think or remember stuff?"
No, I don't fear death, I accept it as a reality and something that everyone must go through"
Then wy dont you kill yourlsef? NO seriously, I'm not saying you should. But I mean if u have no fear then y not simply end it. I mean you've had problems... ur definitely going to have them in the future, so y not just avoid them. But you wont, because this is all talk. In a deferent situation you'd be singing a different tune."
man u just ruined it man. you almost went two entire pages making sense and not sounding like a douchebag but you couldnt help it could u"
dude read the argument its perfectly logical, if you have absolutely not a single fear of death then it should be no problem. I know many people say that people who commit suicide are cowards, but personally I could never do that. your problems have to outweigh ur sense of survival. However few people cann overide there sense of survival"
i understood what you meant behind what you were saying, its just the way you said it. And you do not need to prove you are afraid of something by doing the opposite. and the topic of suicide only brings the emotions of the person to life i hate when people think that at age 14 that they will never love again and attempt suicide. im not saying i have never tried and or thought about it. but the fact behind my thoughts was not waaaa im lonly...but some people really do suffer from depression i am one of them. and sucicde sometimes seems the only way so i dont bark at too many people about it. unless im in a very bad mood and the are just doing to to get attention and u know those people. but many are sad and i mean deeply saddened...wow im done i just went right off topic again."
You are right, I worded that completely wrong. Second, I have never thought of suicide, I consider my survival far too important. Third, this life is nothing but aggravation, if u can end it then good for you, you can accomplish something I cant. Fourth, do not mis intepret wat I'm saying that suicide is good, I'm just saying its something I could never do so I respect ppl who can, but I do not admire them. And fifth, depression is all in your mind, and it can be fought. Most ppl who want to kill themselves at early ages either want to fit in (many ppl do it and I know ppl who do it to fit in) or to feel like they are different (a main goal of many ppl) and end up simply conforming.
so you don't fear never being able to breathe again or see again. And to think or remember stuff?"
No, I don't fear death, I accept it as a reality and something that everyone must go through"
Then wy dont you kill yourlsef? NO seriously, I'm not saying you should. But I mean if u have no fear then y not simply end it. I mean you've had problems... ur definitely going to have them in the future, so y not just avoid them. But you wont, because this is all talk. In a deferent situation you'd be singing a different tune."
man u just ruined it man. you almost went two entire pages making sense and not sounding like a douchebag but you couldnt help it could u"
dude read the argument its perfectly logical, if you have absolutely not a single fear of death then it should be no problem. I know many people say that people who commit suicide are cowards, but personally I could never do that. your problems have to outweigh ur sense of survival. However few people cann overide there sense of survival"
i understood what you meant behind what you were saying, its just the way you said it. And you do not need to prove you are afraid of something by doing the opposite. and the topic of suicide only brings the emotions of the person to life i hate when people think that at age 14 that they will never love again and attempt suicide. im not saying i have never tried and or thought about it. but the fact behind my thoughts was not waaaa im lonly...but some people really do suffer from depression i am one of them. and sucicde sometimes seems the only way so i dont bark at too many people about it. unless im in a very bad mood and the are just doing to to get attention and u know those people. but many are sad and i mean deeply saddened...wow im done i just went right off topic again."
You are right, I worded that completely wrong. Second, I have never thought of suicide, I consider my survival far too important. Third, this life is nothing but aggravation, if u can end it then good for you, you can accomplish something I cant. Fourth, do not mis intepret wat I'm saying that suicide is good, I'm just saying its something I could never do so I respect ppl who can, but I do not admire them. And fifth, depression is all in your mind, and it can be fought. Most ppl who want to kill themselves at early ages either want to fit in (many ppl do it and I know ppl who do it to fit in) or to feel like they are different (a main goal of many ppl) and end up simply conforming. "
THANK GOD!!!!
someone damn
it is in all in your mind and my mind but it is very controlling at times but thats why i go to work and school and spend more time with the things that make me happy. and the last part of what you just said is why the real reason i hated high school too many people who wanted to fit in rather than stand out. whcih is why i was hated by most people in the upper class if you get what i mean by that
so you don't fear never being able to breathe again or see again. And to think or remember stuff?"
No, I don't fear death, I accept it as a reality and something that everyone must go through"
Then wy dont you kill yourlsef? NO seriously, I'm not saying you should. But I mean if u have no fear then y not simply end it. I mean you've had problems... ur definitely going to have them in the future, so y not just avoid them. But you wont, because this is all talk. In a deferent situation you'd be singing a different tune."
man u just ruined it man. you almost went two entire pages making sense and not sounding like a douchebag but you couldnt help it could u"
dude read the argument its perfectly logical, if you have absolutely not a single fear of death then it should be no problem. I know many people say that people who commit suicide are cowards, but personally I could never do that. your problems have to outweigh ur sense of survival. However few people cann overide there sense of survival"
i understood what you meant behind what you were saying, its just the way you said it. And you do not need to prove you are afraid of something by doing the opposite. and the topic of suicide only brings the emotions of the person to life i hate when people think that at age 14 that they will never love again and attempt suicide. im not saying i have never tried and or thought about it. but the fact behind my thoughts was not waaaa im lonly...but some people really do suffer from depression i am one of them. and sucicde sometimes seems the only way so i dont bark at too many people about it. unless im in a very bad mood and the are just doing to to get attention and u know those people. but many are sad and i mean deeply saddened...wow im done i just went right off topic again."
You are right, I worded that completely wrong. Second, I have never thought of suicide, I consider my survival far too important. Third, this life is nothing but aggravation, if u can end it then good for you, you can accomplish something I cant. Fourth, do not mis intepret wat I'm saying that suicide is good, I'm just saying its something I could never do so I respect ppl who can, but I do not admire them. And fifth, depression is all in your mind, and it can be fought. Most ppl who want to kill themselves at early ages either want to fit in (many ppl do it and I know ppl who do it to fit in) or to feel like they are different (a main goal of many ppl) and end up simply conforming. "
THANK GOD!!!! someone damn it is in all in your mind and my mind but it is very controlling at times but thats why i go to work and school and spend more time with the things that make me happy. and the last part of what you just said is why the real reason i hated high school too many people who wanted to fit in rather than stand out. whcih is why i was hated by most people in the upper class if you get what i mean by that"
Ha, I know that feeling. I'm the poster child for standing out. lol
so you don't fear never being able to breathe again or see again. And to think or remember stuff?"
No, I don't fear death, I accept it as a reality and something that everyone must go through"
Then wy dont you kill yourlsef? NO seriously, I'm not saying you should. But I mean if u have no fear then y not simply end it. I mean you've had problems... ur definitely going to have them in the future, so y not just avoid them. But you wont, because this is all talk. In a deferent situation you'd be singing a different tune."
man u just ruined it man. you almost went two entire pages making sense and not sounding like a douchebag but you couldnt help it could u"
dude read the argument its perfectly logical, if you have absolutely not a single fear of death then it should be no problem. I know many people say that people who commit suicide are cowards, but personally I could never do that. your problems have to outweigh ur sense of survival. However few people cann overide there sense of survival"
i understood what you meant behind what you were saying, its just the way you said it. And you do not need to prove you are afraid of something by doing the opposite. and the topic of suicide only brings the emotions of the person to life i hate when people think that at age 14 that they will never love again and attempt suicide. im not saying i have never tried and or thought about it. but the fact behind my thoughts was not waaaa im lonly...but some people really do suffer from depression i am one of them. and sucicde sometimes seems the only way so i dont bark at too many people about it. unless im in a very bad mood and the are just doing to to get attention and u know those people. but many are sad and i mean deeply saddened...wow im done i just went right off topic again."
You are right, I worded that completely wrong. Second, I have never thought of suicide, I consider my survival far too important. Third, this life is nothing but aggravation, if u can end it then good for you, you can accomplish something I cant. Fourth, do not mis intepret wat I'm saying that suicide is good, I'm just saying its something I could never do so I respect ppl who can, but I do not admire them. And fifth, depression is all in your mind, and it can be fought. Most ppl who want to kill themselves at early ages either want to fit in (many ppl do it and I know ppl who do it to fit in) or to feel like they are different (a main goal of many ppl) and end up simply conforming. "
THANK GOD!!!! someone damn it is in all in your mind and my mind but it is very controlling at times but thats why i go to work and school and spend more time with the things that make me happy. and the last part of what you just said is why the real reason i hated high school too many people who wanted to fit in rather than stand out. whcih is why i was hated by most people in the upper class if you get what i mean by that"
I know exactly wat u meean man, I dislike wen ppl do stuff just to fit in. However many times they dont ever realize.
so you don't fear never being able to breathe again or see again. And to think or remember stuff?"
No, I don't fear death, I accept it as a reality and something that everyone must go through"
Then wy dont you kill yourlsef? NO seriously, I'm not saying you should. But I mean if u have no fear then y not simply end it. I mean you've had problems... ur definitely going to have them in the future, so y not just avoid them. But you wont, because this is all talk. In a deferent situation you'd be singing a different tune."
man u just ruined it man. you almost went two entire pages making sense and not sounding like a douchebag but you couldnt help it could u"
dude read the argument its perfectly logical, if you have absolutely not a single fear of death then it should be no problem. I know many people say that people who commit suicide are cowards, but personally I could never do that. your problems have to outweigh ur sense of survival. However few people cann overide there sense of survival"
i understood what you meant behind what you were saying, its just the way you said it. And you do not need to prove you are afraid of something by doing the opposite. and the topic of suicide only brings the emotions of the person to life i hate when people think that at age 14 that they will never love again and attempt suicide. im not saying i have never tried and or thought about it. but the fact behind my thoughts was not waaaa im lonly...but some people really do suffer from depression i am one of them. and sucicde sometimes seems the only way so i dont bark at too many people about it. unless im in a very bad mood and the are just doing to to get attention and u know those people. but many are sad and i mean deeply saddened...wow im done i just went right off topic again."
You are right, I worded that completely wrong. Second, I have never thought of suicide, I consider my survival far too important. Third, this life is nothing but aggravation, if u can end it then good for you, you can accomplish something I cant. Fourth, do not mis intepret wat I'm saying that suicide is good, I'm just saying its something I could never do so I respect ppl who can, but I do not admire them. And fifth, depression is all in your mind, and it can be fought. Most ppl who want to kill themselves at early ages either want to fit in (many ppl do it and I know ppl who do it to fit in) or to feel like they are different (a main goal of many ppl) and end up simply conforming. "
THANK GOD!!!! someone damn it is in all in your mind and my mind but it is very controlling at times but thats why i go to work and school and spend more time with the things that make me happy. and the last part of what you just said is why the real reason i hated high school too many people who wanted to fit in rather than stand out. whcih is why i was hated by most people in the upper class if you get what i mean by that"
I know exactly wat u meean man, I dislike wen ppl do stuff just to fit in. However many times they dont ever realize."
lol yeah well im going to stop this convo before it takes up my entire night, and takes me away from reading Watchmen"
i am completely unafraid of dying. but i wouldnt want to because i enjoy life so much and i know that whenever i am unhappy, it's a fleeting thing. that's why i dont get people who commit suicide. pain and unhappiness wont last forever.
"i am completely unafraid of dying. but i wouldnt want to because i enjoy life so much and i know that whenever i am unhappy, it's a fleeting thing. that's why i dont get people who commit suicide. pain and unhappiness wont last forever."
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