so apparently some DNA testing was done on his mummified remains but the results were withheld only for it to leak out anyways and it turns out he is European. The reason the test results were covered up was due to possible violence and uproar of ppl at the news.
what do you guys think were they right to try to withhold the information? how does this change things, do you even care?
@castleking: Well this is a no brainer... Cesar was going to Egypt to screw with Cleopatra, but this has been happening even before there times so it's not a surprise that Tut was mixed with European.
" @castleking: Well this is a no brainer... Cesar was going to Egypt to screw with Cleopatra, but this has been happening even before there times so it's not a surprise that Tut was mixed with European. "
Pretty sure it's been proven that Tut was the biological son of Pharaoh Akhenaten, and said Pharaoh's sister. Doesn't seem like much room for him to be "mixed", unless his parents were as well.
@~The Wanderer~: I think they were, becuase look at it. Egypt is not that far from Europe. And if you look at the Native Egyptians, they look not like the rest of the natives of Africa. They were relatively lighter toned skinned and had smoother hair. It's like comparing Will Smith to Shaq or Latoya Jackson to Whoopie Goldberg.
" @~The Wanderer~: I think they were, becuase look at it. Egypt is not that far from Europe. And if you look at the Native Egyptians, they look not like the rest of the natives of Africa. They were relatively lighter toned skinned and had smoother hair. It's like comparing Will Smith to Shaq or Latoya Jackson to Oprah. "
I don't get why people think that Egyptians, Middle Easterners, Indians, etc... are anything but white. Obviously they're white. Just because Egypt and the Middle East are part of Africa, doesn't automatically make the people who originated there black. Blacks originate from Sub-Saharan Africa. Whites settled North Africa long ago establishing Carthage, Egypt, and the Aksumite Empire. When white explorers arrived in Sub-Saharan Africa, they found that the indigenous people rarely even traded with each other, and hadn't even colonized islands less than 200 yards away. They never settled any area north of the Sahara Desert until the last few hundred years. Yet for some reason, people think that , in spite of having all the physical characteristics of white people, Egyptians must be descended from blacks. Egyptians, for the most part don't have any darker skin than any other Mediterranean people. Besides which, skin color is about the only thing that doesn't determine race. Race is determined by things like bone density, adipose fat disposition, neotenic traits, hair follicle shape, sebaceous glands, etc... all of which say Egyptians are white, and have always been white. Same thing goes for pretty much every country from there to India. There are blacks who live there, but the local populace are white, regardless of skin color.
" I don't get why people think that Egyptians, Middle Easterners, Indians, etc... are anything but white. Obviously they're white. Just because Egypt and the Middle East are part of Africa, doesn't automatically make the people who originated there black. Blacks originate from Sub-Saharan Africa. Whites settled North Africa long ago establishing Carthage, Egypt, and the Aksumite Empire. When white explorers arrived in Sub-Saharan Africa, they found that the indigenous people rarely even traded with each other, and hadn't even colonized islands less than 200 yards away. They never settled any area north of the Sahara Desert until the last few hundred years. Yet for some reason, people think that , in spite of having all the physical characteristics of white people, Egyptians must be descended from blacks. Egyptians, for the most part don't have any darker skin than any other Mediterranean people. Besides which, skin color is about the only thing that doesn't determine race. Race is determined by things like bone density, adipose fat disposition, neotenic traits, hair follicle shape, sebaceous glands, etc... all of which say Egyptians are white, and have always been white. Same thing goes for pretty much every country from there to India. There are blacks who live there, but the local populace are white, regardless of skin color. "
" I don't get why people think that Egyptians, Middle Easterners, Indians, etc... are anything but white. Obviously they're white. Just because Egypt and the Middle East are part of Africa, doesn't automatically make the people who originated there black. Blacks originate from Sub-Saharan Africa. Whites settled North Africa long ago establishing Carthage, Egypt, and the Aksumite Empire. When white explorers arrived in Sub-Saharan Africa, they found that the indigenous people rarely even traded with each other, and hadn't even colonized islands less than 200 yards away. They never settled any area north of the Sahara Desert until the last few hundred years. Yet for some reason, people think that , in spite of having all the physical characteristics of white people, Egyptians must be descended from blacks. Egyptians, for the most part don't have any darker skin than any other Mediterranean people. Besides which, skin color is about the only thing that doesn't determine race. Race is determined by things like bone density, adipose fat disposition, neotenic traits, hair follicle shape, sebaceous glands, etc... all of which say Egyptians are white, and have always been white. Same thing goes for pretty much every country from there to India. There are blacks who live there, but the local populace are white, regardless of skin color. "
Where did you get this nonsense? "
It's called science. Specifically human anatomy and physiology, and genetics. There's even a little ancient history involved.
" arent greeks part roman and close to being the same race as are spaniards, italians? "
And Sicily was conquered by the Moores who were of African(Black) descent. "
shhh... dont say that.. they dont like hearing it. to me i always looked at all the Greeks, Italians, Spaniards as being brown and slightly white but whatever.
" I don't get why people think that Egyptians, Middle Easterners, Indians, etc... are anything but white. Obviously they're white. Just because Egypt and the Middle East are part of Africa, doesn't automatically make the people who originated there black. Blacks originate from Sub-Saharan Africa. Whites settled North Africa long ago establishing Carthage, Egypt, and the Aksumite Empire. When white explorers arrived in Sub-Saharan Africa, they found that the indigenous people rarely even traded with each other, and hadn't even colonized islands less than 200 yards away. They never settled any area north of the Sahara Desert until the last few hundred years. Yet for some reason, people think that , in spite of having all the physical characteristics of white people, Egyptians must be descended from blacks. Egyptians, for the most part don't have any darker skin than any other Mediterranean people. Besides which, skin color is about the only thing that doesn't determine race. Race is determined by things like bone density, adipose fat disposition, neotenic traits, hair follicle shape, sebaceous glands, etc... all of which say Egyptians are white, and have always been white. Same thing goes for pretty much every country from there to India. There are blacks who live there, but the local populace are white, regardless of skin color. "
Where did you get this nonsense? "
It's called science. Specifically human anatomy and physiology, and genetics. There's even a little ancient history involved. "
" I don't get why people think that Egyptians, Middle Easterners, Indians, etc... are anything but white. Obviously they're white. Just because Egypt and the Middle East are part of Africa, doesn't automatically make the people who originated there black. Blacks originate from Sub-Saharan Africa. Whites settled North Africa long ago establishing Carthage, Egypt, and the Aksumite Empire. When white explorers arrived in Sub-Saharan Africa, they found that the indigenous people rarely even traded with each other, and hadn't even colonized islands less than 200 yards away. They never settled any area north of the Sahara Desert until the last few hundred years. Yet for some reason, people think that , in spite of having all the physical characteristics of white people, Egyptians must be descended from blacks. Egyptians, for the most part don't have any darker skin than any other Mediterranean people. Besides which, skin color is about the only thing that doesn't determine race. Race is determined by things like bone density, adipose fat disposition, neotenic traits, hair follicle shape, sebaceous glands, etc... all of which say Egyptians are white, and have always been white. Same thing goes for pretty much every country from there to India. There are blacks who live there, but the local populace are white, regardless of skin color. "
Where did you get this nonsense? "
It's called science. Specifically human anatomy and physiology, and genetics. There's even a little ancient history involved. "
Interesting, but I have learned to be skeptical on such subjects. Until a tv show like NOVA or anything PBS or History Chanel airs something like this, I won't completely believe it.
"I don't get why people think that Egyptians, Middle Easterners, Indians, etc... are anything but white. Obviously they're white. Just because Egypt and the Middle East are part of Africa, doesn't automatically make the people who originated there black. Blacks originate from Sub-Saharan Africa. Whites settled North Africa long ago establishing Carthage, Egypt, and the Aksumite Empire. When white explorers arrived in Sub-Saharan Africa, they found that the indigenous people rarely even traded with each other, and hadn't even colonized islands less than 200 yards away. They never settled any area north of the Sahara Desert until the last few hundred years. Yet for some reason, people think that , in spite of having all the physical characteristics of white people, Egyptians must be descended from blacks. Egyptians, for the most part don't have any darker skin than any other Mediterranean people. Besides which, skin color is about the only thing that doesn't determine race. Race is determined by things like bone density, adipose fat disposition, neotenic traits, hair follicle shape, sebaceous glands, etc... all of which say Egyptians are white, and have always been white. Same thing goes for pretty much every country from there to India. There are blacks who live there, but the local populace are white, regardless of skin color. "
People in India are considered "Caucasian" because of bone structure, and things you mentioned.....
Egyptians still had darker skin color, shown all throughout their art, as well as their depictions of Asians, and at least one other set of people with a different skin color (can't remember who)................
I mean, just look at the tomb itself.... The Gold Tomb he was inside had nice arched nose. This is unlike the natives of mid and south Africa. We already know that the Roman's used to travel to Egypt. And fore them the Greeks. But even before that, The Barbarians, Vikings and Amazons of the North and the Celtics traveled to Egypt at one time or another.
I mean, just look at the tomb itself.... The Gold Tomb he was inside had nice arched nose. This is unlike the natives of mid and south Africa. We already know that the Roman's used to travel to Egypt. And fore them the Greeks. But even before that, The Barbarians, Vikings and Amazons of the North and the Celtics traveled to Egypt at one time or another. "
"I don't get why people think that Egyptians, Middle Easterners, Indians, etc... are anything but white. Obviously they're white. Just because Egypt and the Middle East are part of Africa, doesn't automatically make the people who originated there black. Blacks originate from Sub-Saharan Africa. Whites settled North Africa long ago establishing Carthage, Egypt, and the Aksumite Empire. When white explorers arrived in Sub-Saharan Africa, they found that the indigenous people rarely even traded with each other, and hadn't even colonized islands less than 200 yards away. They never settled any area north of the Sahara Desert until the last few hundred years. Yet for some reason, people think that , in spite of having all the physical characteristics of white people, Egyptians must be descended from blacks. Egyptians, for the most part don't have any darker skin than any other Mediterranean people. Besides which, skin color is about the only thing that doesn't determine race. Race is determined by things like bone density, adipose fat disposition, neotenic traits, hair follicle shape, sebaceous glands, etc... all of which say Egyptians are white, and have always been white. Same thing goes for pretty much every country from there to India. There are blacks who live there, but the local populace are white, regardless of skin color. "
People in India are considered "Caucasian" because of bone structure, and things you mentioned..... Egyptians still had darker skin color, shown all throughout their art, as well as their depictions of Asians, and at least one other set of people with a different skin color (can't remember who)................ "
People in India are considered Asian..you know because India is IN ASIA!
"I don't get why people think that Egyptians, Middle Easterners, Indians, etc... are anything but white. Obviously they're white. Just because Egypt and the Middle East are part of Africa, doesn't automatically make the people who originated there black. Blacks originate from Sub-Saharan Africa. Whites settled North Africa long ago establishing Carthage, Egypt, and the Aksumite Empire. When white explorers arrived in Sub-Saharan Africa, they found that the indigenous people rarely even traded with each other, and hadn't even colonized islands less than 200 yards away. They never settled any area north of the Sahara Desert until the last few hundred years. Yet for some reason, people think that , in spite of having all the physical characteristics of white people, Egyptians must be descended from blacks. Egyptians, for the most part don't have any darker skin than any other Mediterranean people. Besides which, skin color is about the only thing that doesn't determine race. Race is determined by things like bone density, adipose fat disposition, neotenic traits, hair follicle shape, sebaceous glands, etc... all of which say Egyptians are white, and have always been white. Same thing goes for pretty much every country from there to India. There are blacks who live there, but the local populace are white, regardless of skin color. "
People in India are considered "Caucasian" because of bone structure, and things you mentioned..... Egyptians still had darker skin color, shown all throughout their art, as well as their depictions of Asians, and at least one other set of people with a different skin color (can't remember who)................ "
People in India are considered Asian..you know because India is IN ASIA! "
That's in terms of the continent.....
African, European, and Asian.....
In terms of biology, it was broken into Negroid, Caucasiod, and Mongoloid..........
true. but the bone structure varies and at times matches Caucasian features. funny thing is there is no real way to distinguish ethnicity 100% especially going back 2, 5 or 10k years it just varies to much. asians, Native americans, europeans, africans will sooner or later have features that is attributed to one ethnic group without having bn interbred with them in the last few thousand years if any.
In terms of biology, it was broken into Negroid, Caucasiod, and Mongoloid.......... "
Right..so why are they considered Caucasian when based on their skin tone and geography they are closer to black or asian? You ever met an Indian that can pass for white? I haven't....
In terms of biology, it was broken into Negroid, Caucasiod, and Mongoloid.......... "
Right..so why are they considered Caucasian when based on their skin tone and geography they are closer to black or asian?You ever met an Indian that can pass for white? I haven't.... "
not met but see. albino blacks or indian can pass for european nordic / caucasian.
In terms of biology, it was broken into Negroid, Caucasiod, and Mongoloid.......... "
Right..so why are they considered Caucasian when based on their skin tone and geography they are closer to black or asian?You ever met an Indian that can pass for white? I haven't.... "
Wasn't talking about skin color.....
I was talking about cheek bone, and nose structure, among other traits.......
Even an albino African still has the same genetic traits that give instruction for their bone structure.......
In terms of biology, it was broken into Negroid, Caucasiod, and Mongoloid.......... "
Right..so why are they considered Caucasian when based on their skin tone and geography they are closer to black or asian?You ever met an Indian that can pass for white? I haven't.... "
Wasn't talking about skin color..... I was talking about cheek bone, and nose structure, among other traits....... Even an albino African still has the same genetic traits that give instruction for their bone structure....... "
Teeth placement is actually important to distinguish the mongoloid. also want to point out that negroid, mongoloid is considered offensive term. plus Caucasian is derived from a regional mountain area where it is believe the 1st white ppl came from.
Egyptians are white! Come on!!!! What is there to be disputed?
I've watched this documentary once... Night at the Museum 2 the title was I think. And it showed a living pharaoh from Egypt's golden age. And he was white! There was also this other documentary.. Cleopatra... Where it shows the REAL Cleopatra as white! She even looked like the late Elizabeth Tailor! Now if that doesn't convince you, just look at the Pyramid architect Imhotep. He was white as recently shown in the documentary The Mummy!
Maybe a lot of people think they're not white cause they wear that eyeshadow. But that doesn't make them black (or brown or whatever)... It just shows they're fans of Twilight and are emos by heart.
In terms of biology, it was broken into Negroid, Caucasiod, and Mongoloid.......... "
Right..so why are they considered Caucasian when based on their skin tone and geography they are closer to black or asian?You ever met an Indian that can pass for white? I haven't.... "
Wasn't talking about skin color..... I was talking about cheek bone, and nose structure, among other traits....... Even an albino African still has the same genetic traits that give instruction for their bone structure....... "
Teeth placement is actually important to distinguish the mongoloid. also want to point out that negroid, mongoloid is considered offensive term. plus Caucasian is derived from a regional mountain area where it is believe the 1st white ppl came from. "
Wasn't talking about skin color..... I was talking about cheek bone, and nose structure, among other traits....... Even an albino African still has the same genetic traits that give instruction for their bone structure....... "
I understand they have similar traits to whites.But there is a clear difference in appearance between Indians and White people.I can tell and Indian by looking at them and it doesn't have anything to do with skin color.Yes their skin tone is a dead give away though.Let me ask you this, then.When someone Indian goes and fills out application and it asks for race\ethnicity..what box do they check? I never read or saw anything they suggested Indians were considered caucasian.
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