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#1 Edited by novi_homines (1338 posts) - - Show Bio

Within one verse, Kendrick Lamar might have just reincarnated mainstream hip hop of old. You know, mainstream hip hop that used to actually be good? It's been a while, I know. But surely you might've heard what he did, but if not, give this track a listen. The important part comes towards the ends of his verse, but the whole verse definitely deserves a listen. His verse ends at 6:00.

Here's what he said:

"I'm usually homeboys with the same niggas I'm rhymin' wit

But this is hip hop and them niggas should know what time it is

And that goes for Jermaine Cole, Big KRIT, Wale

Pusha T, Meek Millz, A$AP Rocky, Drake

Big Sean, Jay Electron', Tyler, Mac Miller

I got love for you all but I'm tryna murder you niggas

Tryna make sure your core fans never heard of you niggas

They dont wanna hear not one more noun or verb from you niggas

What is competition? I'm tryna raise the bar high

Who tryna jump and get it? You better off tryna skydive"

So he calls out: Mac Miller, Tyler the Creator, J-Cole, Big Sean, Jay Electronica, A$AP Rocky, Wale, Drake, and a slew of other rappers. It wasn't really a diss, but a sort of pep talk to bring rap back to how it used to be. And a slew of rappers have already responded with verses, even some not mentioned on his list. As a result, you have a slew of rappers trending worldwide due to their responses, and you have numerous people outside the world of rap chiming in. Such as Lebron James, and Phil Jackson, and Kevin Hart.

So what do you guys think? Did you like or dislike what Kendrick did on this track? Regardless of how people take it, it'll definitely be talked about not only weeks down the line, but maybe months and decades as well. As Russell Simmons stated earlier today, "Kendrick Lamar's verson on Control is an instant classic." And I definitely agree.

#2 Edited by pooty (10860 posts) - - Show Bio

I thought this was about the dude married to Kim Kardashian sister. I have no idea who this is.

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#3 Posted by batmannflash (6192 posts) - - Show Bio

Kendrick Lamar is amazing. Definitely one of the best (if not the best) current rapper. Been doing it since Section.80!

#4 Edited by russellmania77 (14628 posts) - - Show Bio

@pooty said:

I thought this was about the dude married to Kim Kardashian sister. I have no idea who this is.

You mean lamar odem? lol

#5 Posted by russellmania77 (14628 posts) - - Show Bio

good, tyler is very good at all... AT ALL

#6 Posted by novi_homines (1338 posts) - - Show Bio

Kendrick Lamar is amazing. Definitely one of the best (if not the best) current rapper. Been doing it since Section.80!

Me too. Section .80's release was when I was alerted to his skill. Poured through his previous work after, and have been a fan since.

#7 Edited by batmannflash (6192 posts) - - Show Bio

@pooty: Lamar Odom? that guy's a basketball player

#8 Edited by The Stegman (23258 posts) - - Show Bio

Sounds less like how he's trying to inspire them and more how he's inspiring himself to be better than them.

#9 Edited by novi_homines (1338 posts) - - Show Bio

I've listened to all the responses. Thus far, Joell Ortiz and King Los are 1 and 1A in coming back at Kendrick. They both came strong. If you want to hear the best responses thus far, listen to these two.

Favorite line from Los - "I'm coming with the K like they're lacking Potassium."

#10 Posted by Juiceboks (7991 posts) - - Show Bio

Sounds less like how he's trying to inspire them and more how he's inspiring himself to be better than them.

The part about him saying he was the king of New York(even though he's from the West Coast lol) is most likely just that. Though I do believe he was overall trying to tell these (in his eyes)talented rappers to step their game up. On a side note..

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#11 Posted by novi_homines (1338 posts) - - Show Bio

@the_stegman said:

Sounds less like how he's trying to inspire them and more how he's inspiring himself to be better than them.

The part about him saying he was the king of New York(even though he's from the West Coast lol) is most likely just that. Though I do believe he was overall trying to tell these (in his eyes)talented rappers to step their game up. On a side note..

LOL!!!!

#12 Edited by novi_homines (1338 posts) - - Show Bio

In his verse he said

"even if Phil Jackson came back, he ain't coaching me! I'm uncoachable..."

Phil Jackson's response

Lol!! Guess he listened to this as well.

#13 Posted by M3th (2050 posts) - - Show Bio

I said it before and Imma say it again. Thank the Rap Gods for King Kendrick Lamar the world hailed King Kendrick.

Have you heard Joell Ortiz response?

#14 Posted by Vance Astro (91123 posts) - - Show Bio

Jay-Z is the King of New York.

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#15 Posted by batmannflash (6192 posts) - - Show Bio

In his verse he said

"even if Phil Jackson came back, he ain't coaching me! I'm uncoachable..."

Phil Jackson's response

Lol!! Guess he listened to this as well.

hah Phil Jackson is the greatest!

#16 Edited by Veshark (9058 posts) - - Show Bio

Love it. Hip-hop thrives on competition, the race to be better pushes all artists to make better music. If anything, K-Dot deserves this call-out, compared to his contemporary peers, I'd consider him to be the best among those mentioned.

#17 Edited by SpideyPresence (1906 posts) - - Show Bio

@novi_homines: Haha I knew Los would kill that before I heard I. kendrick's going to bring out some ill responses. This needed to happen. I can't wait to see more responses. Props to Kendrick.

#18 Edited by novi_homines (1338 posts) - - Show Bio

@m3th said:

I said it before and Imma say it again. Thank the Rap Gods for King Kendrick Lamar the world hailed King Kendrick.

Have you heard Joell Ortiz response?

lol definitely. I posted it up there.

#19 Posted by ImagineMan16 (466 posts) - - Show Bio

I've just recently started to listening to hip hop in general, and Kendrick Lamar was my introduction to the genre. I'm interested to see if anything significant comes of this.

#20 Edited by pooty (10860 posts) - - Show Bio
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#21 Edited by CheeseSticks (2395 posts) - - Show Bio

This is the worst diss i ever read. You guys should go back and read Ether by Nas or Acknowledge by Masta Ace.

#22 Edited by _slim_ (13067 posts) - - Show Bio

Alrighty.

#23 Posted by Veshark (9058 posts) - - Show Bio

@pooty said:

@russellmania77: @batmannflash: What are some good songs by Kendrick so I can Youtube them? thx

The Art of Peer Pressure, The Recipe, Sing About Me, ADHD, Opposites Attract.

@cheesesticks

You're missing the point...it's not a 'diss', it's a challenge and call-out. Obviously he doesn't have beef with these guys, this isn't Ether.

#24 Posted by IIDEADxPOOLII (1414 posts) - - Show Bio

He ain't runnin sh!t over here in New York, the verse was dope though.

Joell's response was dope too.

#25 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (32993 posts) - - Show Bio

well he certainly made an impact

#26 Posted by evilvegeta74 (4521 posts) - - Show Bio

Kendrick simply laid down one of the best verses in years, seriously! This guy is ready!

#27 Edited by batmannflash (6192 posts) - - Show Bio

@pooty: just search up his albums Section80 and good kid mad city

#28 Edited by YoungJustice (6697 posts) - - Show Bio
#29 Posted by M3th (2050 posts) - - Show Bio

@evilvegeta74: I wouldn't say best verse of the year. I'd say it's DOPE but the best thing for me was the "dissing" part where he's like, I'm trying to make you're core fans forget about you and never want to listen to your music. or something like that.

I think there's been better verses before this year. He's had better and others have too but this one is especially DOPE for calling out everyone.

#30 Posted by M3th (2050 posts) - - Show Bio

@pooty: "Look Out for Detox." I'll recommend. Plus, the one's VeeShark said are DOPE too. Opposites Attract(Tomorrow Without Her) is my personal favorite form that particular project.

#31 Edited by King Saturn (223841 posts) - - Show Bio

Kendrick Lamar is a Quality Rapper... The Verse he laid down was Dope... it was not a Legendary Diss Track but it will make N!ggas Wake Up... and we need that right now in Hip Hop.

#32 Posted by M3th (2050 posts) - - Show Bio

I just heard Lupes answer... and DAAAAAMMM I love Lupe. Always exceeding my expectations by taking a different route. You need to go to Harvard to be a Lupe Fan.

Ughhh so much FUN! Thank the Rap Gods for Kendrick Lamar. The world hailed King Kendrick.

Am I the only one who wants, J.Cole, Ab-Soul, Big Boi, MGk, and more to respond.

I specifically want j.Cole and AB to response since their close friends.I personally would love if Soul would respond. Starting off with something like Hey it's still TDE, Black Hippy and just goes off on some MAKE WAY BRUH.

#33 Posted by frozenedge (1155 posts) - - Show Bio

i'm definitely looking forward to how some of those rappers Kendrick named respond to that. Hell I'm even looking forward to rappers he didn't mention to say something back. Hopefully this gets things stirring and everybody can just start dropping they best tracks left and right to come back

#34 Edited by pooty (10860 posts) - - Show Bio

What happens after everyone responds? What are people hoping will happen here? Do we want "beef" between rappers again? Will a "diss" make you rap better or something? Shouldn't pride in your craft make you do your best? It's something to talk about right now but I don't know what the long term effects are supposed to be.

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#35 Edited by Jonny_Anonymous (32993 posts) - - Show Bio
#36 Posted by pooty (10860 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm trying to murder you n!gggas. make it so nobody heard of you n!ggas. if that's not a diss then it is an aggressive call out. and I'm sure some artist will take it as a diss regardless of his intent.

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#37 Posted by Samimista (20609 posts) - - Show Bio
#38 Edited by russellmania77 (14628 posts) - - Show Bio

@pooty: personally for me i guess would be, "bitch dont kill my vibe", "poetic justice", and "swimming pool (drank)"

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#40 Posted by M3th (2050 posts) - - Show Bio

@pooty: It's more of a sparring session. They is no malicious intent. Just sportsmanship of being the Top MC.

What I want to add is that Kendrick said he was the King of NY as in he's the most popular MC everywhere. As in he is the King of Hip Hop at the moment. PS. I think Cassidy's, Fred the Godson's, and B.o.B's responses were Light.

I honestly think Joell and Lupe have the best response. I love Lupes **** u aint NaS **** you aint Jay-Z.

#41 Posted by YoungJustice (6697 posts) - - Show Bio
#42 Posted by pooty (10860 posts) - - Show Bio

@m3th: It's more of a sparring session. They is no malicious intent. Just sportsmanship of being the Top MC.

Ok. I can roll with that.

As in he is the King of Hip Hop at the moment.

But he isn't. that's like Lamar Odom saying he is the king of the NBA. lol

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#43 Posted by pooty (10860 posts) - - Show Bio

BETTER THEN ANYTHING THOSE OTHER CATS DID

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#44 Edited by Jnr6Lil (7689 posts) - - Show Bio

It's not a diss.

It's no different than what Eminem & Pac used to do. It's calling out people to step up.

#45 Posted by novi_homines (1338 posts) - - Show Bio

Again, not a diss. And Lupe's response was fire but his little twitter bitch fit was annoying. He was clearly hating on the attention Kendrick was getting.

#46 Posted by The Stegman (23258 posts) - - Show Bio

I swear, rappers can act like f*cking children sometimes

"Oh noes, someone might have ''dissed'' me, I'mma act all hard and diss him back...on Twitter" lil b*tches man.

#47 Posted by kgb725 (6082 posts) - - Show Bio

@pooty: he said he wasn't dissing in the song this is not like the old 50

#48 Posted by NYSMUSCLE (31 posts) - - Show Bio

Joell Ortiz killed that

#49 Edited by SpideyPresence (1906 posts) - - Show Bio

I really want to here J.Cole and Wale's responses. Lupe's response was genius though. Needed RG to fully understand it not gonna lie.

1:05-1:12 mocking B.O.B. style

1:13-1:27 mocking T.I. style

1:27-1:45 mocking Kanye style

1:45-1:57 mocking Jay-Z style

1:57-2:20 mocking Drake style

2:20-2:40 mocking 2 Chainz style

2:40-2:55 mocking Lil Wayne style

#50 Edited by Deranged Midget (17599 posts) - - Show Bio

A little off-topic but has anyone heard the new Eminem single from his new album that premiered in the Ghosts multiplayer reveal yesterday? Easily the best part of the show! This is why I used to listen to hip/hop.

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