Jokes -Is there a limit or not?

Well,I would like to know your opinion about how far could a joke go.

Here in Brazil,a comedian called Rafinha Bastos made a joke about a famous pregnant singer,called Vanessa Camargo.He said:"I would f*** her and her baby",after this,he lost his job at the program he participated called CQC and was extremely criticised,he almost was arrested.There's another comedian,called Danilo Gentili,that wrote this in his Twitter account:"King Kong is a monkey that came to town and caught a hot blonde girl,who he think he's?A soccer/football player?",he escaped from most of the population,but he was very criticised as well.

A video blogger(vlogger) called Caue Moura gave his opinion about it saying:"For me,they were all jokes,because,it doesn't matter how you're,from which race you're,you'll always be a target for jokes,it's nothing related to racism,it's life,so you,that always criticise others by their apperance,race and other stuff,you're the racist,not the comedian,since he's not pretending to put you down.Do you think Vanessa's son will suffer bullying because of Bastos' comment?Hell no,he'll suffer it,because his mother processed him and made everything to f*** up with the dude's life,now it will be remembered by a long time,poor boy".I totally agree with him,since jokes exist and have to be made,but just for fun,not for racism and to put you down,you have to accept it,liking or not.

But I'm not here to talk about myself,I want your opinion.So what do you,viners,think?

Gallery:

Vanessa Camargo

Rafinha Bastos

Danilo Gentili

Caue Moura

AND NOW,THE MOST IMPORTANT:

ME!!!!

The comedians right.....the fact that everything is supposed to be PC and everyone gets offended over the smallest comment is atrocious. This sh*t happens in the US all the time and it sucks.

@cattlebattle said:

The comedians right.....the fact that everything is supposed to be PC and everyone gets offended over the smallest comment is atrocious. This sh*t happens in the US all the time and it sucks.

Yup,I heard of some cases in US to,but this one is the most commented here in Brazil.Glad to see I'm not the only one that agrees with Caue ^^

Haha! In my native language "Bastos" means rude... Hahaha!

@deadpoolrules said:

Yup,I heard of some cases in US to,but this one is the most commented here in Brazil.Glad to see I'm not the only one that agrees with Caue ^^

gotta support free speech.....woot!!

Everyone makes unfunny jokes all the time. There is no reason to bash him like some vile monster for some poor taste joke he made.

@ssejllenrad said:

Haha! In my native language "Bastos" means rude... Hahaha!

Poor dude.

@CaioTrubat said:

Everyone makes unfunny jokes all the time. There is no reason to bash him like some vile monster for some poor taste joke he made.

This

There's a limit. There's always a limit.

BUMP

I've been told I make jokes at the point where it is extremely funny but if I go any further, I'll cross a line.

@deadpoolrules: LOL there is no line for American, and a lot of British, comedians. From he greats like Richard Pryor and George Carlin to newcomers Daniel Tosh and Louis C.K., they push the "boundries" of their respective generations.

That being said if its not clever, witty, or true, its probably not funny. Personally, racial epithets and false stereotypes aren't funny to me.

The line is what makes things offensive. Everything should be fair game, because once you start saying that its alright to joke about some things but not others things get very messy and unfair. But people always laugh at the misfortunes of others, and then have the nerve to choose to be offended when someone jokes about their circumstances.(because it is a choice, you don't have to look at or listen to things that offend you, and the bit that you don't manage to avoid is called REAL LIFE)

So everything is funny, because for many, humour is just a way to not lose your mind at the horror of it all. Once things are out of bounds, once a subject is taboo this leads to fear, misinformation and self-censorship.

That said, it is all about intent. There is a difference between using humour to deal with and explore our experiences, and simply passing off something as a joke which is really just an insult, or bait to cause offense for it's own sake. That's just trolling.

Just today I visited a meme blog where there was a drawing that caused some controversy where a guy murders a pregnant woman and devours the unborn baby. The picture was removed and replaced it with a gif where some aging pornstar is having sex. There still a link for it in the comments section so its not completely removed. Yes its was not a bit funny and the site lost some subscribers after that happened, the guy who drawed it that should have know that people would react to it.

@CaioTrubat said:

Just today I visited a meme blog where there was a drawing that caused some controversy where a guy murders a pregnant woman and devours the unborn baby. The picture was removed and replaced it with a gif where some aging pornstar is having sex. There still a link for it in the comments section so its not completely removed. Yes its was not a bit funny and the site lost some subscribers after that happened, the guy who drawed it that should have know that people would react to it.

Which site?

@deadpoolrules said:

@CaioTrubat said:

Just today I visited a meme blog where there was a drawing that caused some controversy where a guy murders a pregnant woman and devours the unborn baby. The picture was removed and replaced it with a gif where some aging pornstar is having sex. There still a link for it in the comments section so its not completely removed. Yes its was not a bit funny and the site lost some subscribers after that happened, the guy who drawed it that should have know that people would react to it.

Which site?

Its a Brazilian one. I don't think there is a point telling because most people wouldn't understand it :P

There's always a limit unless you find it... And even if you do, you have to be careful when crossing it or you just made a joke that's terrible on many different levels than just humor. You also have to take other people's perspectives into account or else you might ruin the punchline and you could end up looking obnoxious and rude.

Some people get offended easier than others, and find different things offensive as well, different strokes for different folks, I think some jokes could be off color (for instance, I wouldn't be cracking 9//11 jokes out of respect for those who died) however, I do think some people do act a bit too PC nowadays. 
 
Good example: 
 
A while back, I made a comment on my Facebook page, I hadn't gotten sick in over a year, so I said, "My immune system is so great, my antibodies completely rape all foreign bodies.'' 
 
People got all offended about the word ''rape'' being used even though it was the hypothetical rape of freakin' bacteria.

@PowerHerc said:

There's a limit. There's always a limit.

Depends on the place

USA the 1st amendment protect indecency (hate speech and whatevs')

but in some places like southeast asia you cannot diss the govt (dissident) and you can get sued or go to prison

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freedom of speech varies between each countries, you have your rights but use them carefully

The limit is when you joke about threatening the safety of others. Raping a pregnant woman and her fetus is not funny in any culture.

There is a limit to everything.

Yes if your Joke mentions Chuck Norris you should stop it immediately and visit the nearest shame stick user to punish you for it

Shame stick

@joshmightbe said:

Yes if your Joke mentions Chuck Norris you should stop it immediately and visit the nearest shame stick user to punish you for it

Shame stick

LOL

Rafinha Bastos>>>>All

And you know its true :P

@The_Lunact_And_Manic said:

Rafinha Bastos>>>>All

And you know its true :P

I like him,but Caue is better.

if offenses and insults can be take as jokes ,no matter how terrible they can be, well Viners let's insult each other freely and the hell with the rules!

There is a line you shall not cross.

I make sex jokes all the time.

I know better than to make a joke about f*cking a baby, not because it isnt at all funny, because it's just borderline disrespectful.

@Shotgun said:

The limit is when you joke about threatening the safety of others. Raping a pregnant woman and her fetus is not funny in any culture.

He never said he was going to rape her............

@SilverGalford: I was raised on the sticks and stones philosophy so feel free to insult me if you wish cause I'm one of the people that know that words only hurt if you allow them to hurt you.

@joshmightbe said:

@SilverGalford: I was raised on the sticks and stones philosophy so feel free to insult me if you wish cause I'm one of the people that know that words only hurt if you allow them to hurt you.

oh really? so it doesn't matter if i insult every member of your family?

@SilverGalford: Go ahead, they can take it cause they've been through actual trauma meaning words are just words to them

@joshmightbe said:

@SilverGalford: Go ahead, they can take it cause they've been through actual trauma meaning words are just words to them

You really are a glutton for punishment.

@SilverGalford: Not really, just saying words don't really cause any damage that they aren't allowed to cause

@joshmightbe said:

@SilverGalford: Not really, just saying words don't really cause any damage that they aren't allowed to cause

well sometimes they do cause damage indirectly.

@SilverGalford: Again only if you allow them to.

@joshmightbe said:

@SilverGalford: Again only if you allow them to.

for example , Hitler ordered to kill many people , his orders killed many people who were forced to allow that .

@SilverGalford: Those weren't insults, and honestly Hitler's words were only given power due to the people who backed his rise to power. If no one had given credence to his words they wouldn't have mattered

@joshmightbe said:

@SilverGalford: Those weren't insults, and honestly Hitler's words were only given power due to the people who backed his rise to power. If no one had given credence to his words they wouldn't have mattered

as K from Man in Black said : "A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it."

@deadpoolrules:

If it was a joke than people are to sensitive. Their jokes....I mean they might be inappropriate and not funny but its a joke so take it as one.

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@SilverGalford: That still doesn't take away from my point that words are powerless without action

@joshmightbe said:

@SilverGalford: That still doesn't take away from my point that words are powerless without action

I guess you are right in some way , over the internet there are a lot of people who say terrible things against others ,but in real life they don't do anything. Anyway , people today are insane and evil and we must watch the words we say cause we can get in real trouble .

@SilverGalford: People have always been insane and evil, we just have more ability to hear about the insanity and evil of others now so it seems like more.

@YoungJustice said:

I know better than to make a joke about f*cking a baby, not because it isnt at all funny, because it's just borderline disrespectful.

@Shotgun said:

The limit is when you joke about threatening the safety of others. Raping a pregnant woman and her fetus is not funny in any culture.

He never said he was going to rape her............

Its not borderline disrespectful. Its straight-up outrageous.

The OP said that 'He said:"I would f*** her and her baby" Go read the first post, smart one. Plus, the singer is probably not associated with this idiot comedian; him fucking her would be rape.

@Shotgun said:

The limit is when you joke about threatening the safety of others. Raping a pregnant woman and her fetus is not funny in any culture.

That's just gross. But then hey, "can't step on a guy for making a joke" an' all...

There are limits with the audience you've got, then there are limits that just shouldn't be crossed at all. These are the limits of comedy that (I'm sorry to Shotgun for dragging 'em into my little statement) pretty much end at comedy. Any further you find yourself in completely different territories.

@PowerHerc said:

There's a limit. There's always a limit.

@Shotgun said:

@YoungJustice said:

I know better than to make a joke about f*cking a baby, not because it isnt at all funny, because it's just borderline disrespectful.

@Shotgun said:

The limit is when you joke about threatening the safety of others. Raping a pregnant woman and her fetus is not funny in any culture.

He never said he was going to rape her............

Its not borderline disrespectful. Its straight-up outrageous.

The OP said that 'He said:"I would f*** her and her baby" Go read the first post, smart one. Plus, the singer is probably not associated with this idiot comedian; him fucking her would be rape.

I was saying he never stated he would rape her. Thats all, smart one.

While I might find what he said distasteful (especially the baby comment; adults are fair game, but kids are my personal limit, usually), I have a general free-speech and anti-censorship attitude.

@YoungJustice said:

@Shotgun said:

@YoungJustice said:

I know better than to make a joke about f*cking a baby, not because it isnt at all funny, because it's just borderline disrespectful.

@Shotgun said:

The limit is when you joke about threatening the safety of others. Raping a pregnant woman and her fetus is not funny in any culture.

He never said he was going to rape her............

Its not borderline disrespectful. Its straight-up outrageous.

The OP said that 'He said:"I would f*** her and her baby" Go read the first post, smart one. Plus, the singer is probably not associated with this idiot comedian; him fucking her would be rape.

I was saying he never stated he would rape her. Thats all, smart one.

Yes, because having sex with a baby is not rape. Nope.

@JediXMan said:

@YoungJustice said:

@Shotgun said:

@YoungJustice said:

I know better than to make a joke about f*cking a baby, not because it isnt at all funny, because it's just borderline disrespectful.

@Shotgun said:

The limit is when you joke about threatening the safety of others. Raping a pregnant woman and her fetus is not funny in any culture.

He never said he was going to rape her............

Its not borderline disrespectful. Its straight-up outrageous.

The OP said that 'He said:"I would f*** her and her baby" Go read the first post, smart one. Plus, the singer is probably not associated with this idiot comedian; him fucking her would be rape.

I was saying he never stated he would rape her. Thats all, smart one.

Yes, because having sex with a baby is not rape. Nope.

He could have meant when the baby wasn't a baby anymore.

@YoungJustice said:

@Shotgun said:

@YoungJustice said:

I know better than to make a joke about f*cking a baby, not because it isnt at all funny, because it's just borderline disrespectful.

@Shotgun said:

The limit is when you joke about threatening the safety of others. Raping a pregnant woman and her fetus is not funny in any culture.

He never said he was going to rape her............

Its not borderline disrespectful. Its straight-up outrageous.

The OP said that 'He said:"I would f*** her and her baby" Go read the first post, smart one. Plus, the singer is probably not associated with this idiot comedian; him fucking her would be rape.

I was saying he never stated he would rape her. Thats all, smart one.

Having sex with someone without their permission is rape.

@Shotgun said:

@YoungJustice said:

@Shotgun said:

@YoungJustice said:

I know better than to make a joke about f*cking a baby, not because it isnt at all funny, because it's just borderline disrespectful.

@Shotgun said:

The limit is when you joke about threatening the safety of others. Raping a pregnant woman and her fetus is not funny in any culture.

He never said he was going to rape her............

Its not borderline disrespectful. Its straight-up outrageous.

The OP said that 'He said:"I would f*** her and her baby" Go read the first post, smart one. Plus, the singer is probably not associated with this idiot comedian; him fucking her would be rape.

I was saying he never stated he would rape her. Thats all, smart one.

Having sex with someone without their permission is rape.

I'm pretty sure he never said that he would have sex with her without permission.