Jadakiss better than Biggie?

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As along as it's good to listen, then it's worth buying. 
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#102  Edited By Static Shock

Biggie is better than Jadakiss, and I like both of them.

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#103  Edited By DrTyrannical

LOL
 
Jadakiss better than Biggie...
 
Joke of the year, folks.

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#104  Edited By King_Saturn
yes... Jadakiss is better than BIG... and I am not joking either... 
BIG was nice for his time... but Jada is just as good as BIG lyrically... and album wise I think their even since both of them have 2 good albums... and at least 1 shitty one 
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#105  Edited By DrTyrannical

Exactly. For his time. Put that in perspective. Biggie and Pac revolutionized rap into the styles we all see and here today. If Biggie was still here he'd be shittin on all these rappers. Jada included.

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#106  Edited By King_Saturn
@DrTyrannical said:
" Exactly. For his time. Put that in perspective. Biggie and Pac revolutionized rap into the styles we all see and here today. If Biggie was still here he'd be shittin on all these rappers. Jada included. "
I do not care what they supposedly did for hip hop... I am only looking at BIG and Jadakiss on skill level and quality of music overall... and really I do not see BIG being better than Jadakiss lyrically... nor album wise in terms of quality... 
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@King Saturn said:
" yes... Jadakiss is better than BIG... and I am not joking either... 
BIG was nice for his time... but Jada is just as good as BIG lyrically... and album wise I think their even since both of them have 2 good albums... and at least 1 shitty one  "
What was Big's shitty album?? One of those post-mortem ones?
 
Jada has a bunch of great verses but imo his songs just don't compare to Biggie's. 'Gimmie the Loot' and 'I got a Story to tell' are still mind blowing to this day. The only thing Big has going against him is longevity but from 94-97 he was a beast. Life After Death is probably the second greatest double album ever after Wu-tang Forever.
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@Tonystarkbuttherapper said:
" @King Saturn said:
" yes... Jadakiss is better than BIG... and I am not joking either... 
BIG was nice for his time... but Jada is just as good as BIG lyrically... and album wise I think their even since both of them have 2 good albums... and at least 1 shitty one  "
What was Big's shitty album?? One of those post-mortem ones?  Jada has a bunch of great verses but imo his songs just don't compare to Biggie's. 'Gimmie the Loot' and 'I got a Story to tell' are still mind blowing to this day. The only thing Big has going against him is longevity but from 94-97 he was a beast. Life After Death is probably the second greatest double album ever after Wu-tang Forever. "
Born Again was a Shitty Album... whether he was Dead or not when it came out... the album is credited to him... and it sucked  
and personally I like some of Jada's songs more than Big's even outside of Jada being a better lyricist then BIG... anywho, you can keep talking until the cows come home... there is not anything you could say to convince me BIG is better than Jada... Nothing
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Born again had Rap Phenomenon which officially makes it 5 mics... lol j/k. It was an album made with unreleased verses that might not have seen the light of day if he were still alive. I don't count that as an album unless its something like The Lost Tapes or Hidden Darts where the artist had a hand in making it. If Nas died and someone made an album out of his table scraps I wouldn't attribute that to him.

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#110  Edited By King_Saturn
@Tonystarkbuttherapper said:
" Born again had Rap Phenomenon which officially makes it 5 mics... lol j/k. It was an album made with unreleased verses that might not have seen the light of day if he were still alive. I don't count that as an album unless its something like The Lost Tapes or Hidden Darts where the artist had a hand in making it. If Nas died and someone made an album out of his table scraps I wouldn't attribute that to him. "
thats you... I count it as a Notorious BIG album... because I bought it... and it sucked ass... and since its credited as a Notorious BIG album... in my eyes... that is his album... whether he lived to see it or not... 
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@G Bird said:
"Prodigy from Mobb Deep >>> Biggie "
I could understand if you listed Havoc here, but Prodigy? LOL.
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@The Mjolnir Wielder said:
" @G Bird said:
"Prodigy from Mobb Deep >>> Biggie "
I could understand if you listed Havoc here, but Prodigy? LOL. "
Prodigy >>> Havoc, but I do like both. Lyrically though, Prodigy would run laps around Havoc.
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I don't think he'd be able to do it literally though.

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@G Bird said:
" @The Mjolnir Wielder said:
" @G Bird said:
"Prodigy from Mobb Deep >>> Biggie "
I could understand if you listed Havoc here, but Prodigy? LOL. "
Prodigy >>> Havoc, but I do like both. Lyrically though, Prodigy would run laps around Havoc. "
They're two of my favorites, I just personally feel that Havoc has the much better flow and rhyme structure.
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#115  Edited By King_Saturn
I would take Nas over Biggie and Jadakiss...
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@Sexy Merc said:
" Just 50 MCs that I feel are better than Biggie. It's personal opinion, so if you disagree, I don't really care.
 
  1. Nas
  2. Black Thought
  3. AZ
  4. Big L
  5. Big Pun
  6. Slug
  7. Eyedea
  8. Guru
  9. KRS-One
  10. Kool G Rap
  11. Big Daddy Kane
  12. GZA
  13. Mos Def
  14. MF Doom
  15. Talib Kweli
  16. Andre 3000
  17. Ras Kass
  18. Jay-Z
  19. Pharoahe Monch
  20. Common
  21. Lupe
  22. LL Cool J
  23. Aesop Rock
  24. Murs
  25. Method Man
  26. Rakim
  27. Ghostface
  28. Raekwon
  29. Inspectah Deck
  30. Slick Rick
  31. Elzhi
  32. Brother Ali
  33. Immortal Technique
  34. Busdriver
  35. Vinnie Paz
  36. Eminem
  37. Apathy
  38. Del
  39. Lauryn Hill
  40. Kiss
  41. R.A.
  42. Scarface
  43. Killa Priest
  44. CL Smooth
  45. Jean
  46. Masta Ace
  47. Royce
  48. Termanology
  49. MC Shan
  50. Sage Francis
"
I'm fine with Nas being #1, but I have a problem with these: 
 
1. Black Thought over Big L, Pun and AZ?  
2. Andre 3000 is ranked waaaaaay too high IMO.  
3. Brother Ali is ranked waaaaaaaaaay too low IMO.  
4. R.A. is definitely a top 10 emcee, maybe even top 5. 
5. Royce Da 5'9'' is also easily in the top 10 IMO.  
6. Vinnie Paz, and JMT in general, is hella overrated, and shouldn't even be on that list.  
7. I may be biased here, but Papoose is better lyrically than quite a bit of those you listed.
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#117  Edited By Hi I'm New

me personally I am a huge Biggie fan so my response to your question is... 

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WHUT? 3000 doesn't have a bad verse to his name and consistently comes with shit that kills every other thing out there (Royal Flush verse, Intl players anthem verse, Walk it out remix, A life in the day of Benjamin Andre, every other outkast album from southernplaya to sb/tlb)
 
The only thing going against him is that he's been dropping like 1 song a year ever since idlewild flopped.

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Alright. Let's throw HERE Biggie verses vs. Jadakiss verses and see which one will win when the opponent finally says "I give up".

My time.

[The Notorious B.I.G. - Kick On The Door ''Verse 2'']

On your mark, get set, when I spark, you're wet

Look how dark it get when you're marked for death

Should I, start your breath or should I let you die?

In fear you start to cry, ask why?

Lyrically, I'm worshiped, don't front, the word's sick

You cursed it, but rehearsed it

I drop unexpectedly like bird shit

You herbs get stuck quickly for royalties and show money

Don't forget the publishin', I punish them

I'm done with them, son I'm surprised you run with them

I think they got cum in them, 'cause they nothin' but dicks

Tryna blow up like nitro and dynamite sticks

Mad I smoke hydro, rock diamonds that's sick

Got pay off my flow, rhyme with my own clique

Take trips to Cairo, layin' with yo' bitch

I know you prayin' you was rich

Fuckin' prick, when I see you, I'mma...

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IF someone is up to that after 9 years ago, lol

I'm just a fanatic Hip-Hop fan.

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@phoenixblue: I'd bet money no one was gonna respond, so I'm throwing you a bone lol.

Gang Starr ft. Jadakiss - Rite Where U Stand

You wanna know why I invest

All my money into haze and into dope?

‘Cause right now, I'm currently a slave for Interscope

Respect first, then money – basic s***

If you got n***** under pressure, you could take they s***

Listen, I'ma leave you right where you stand

Have the ambulance

Pass your Timberlands off right to your man

‘Cause he p****, he ain't gonna do nothin' but look

When it come to beef, he don't want do nothin' but cook

As soon as the chrome scope him

Right there, two in the dome, smokin'

Kiss keeps funeral homes open

I fall back, smoke an ounce in the dark

Bounce on a Preme track like I bounce on a narc

Keep playing, y'all n***** will burn

And you know they say it takes something to happen for n***** to learn

Let the .40 Cal give 'em a perm

This industry is like bacteria, and my flow is a germ

Just mad ‘cause you'll never be as nice as I am

J to the "mwah" and I'll leave you right where you stand

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#123  Edited By Phoenixblue

@indomitableregal:

[The Notorious B.I.G. - Victory ''Verse 2'']

In the commission, you ask for permission to hit 'em

He don't like me, hit him while wifey was with him

You heard of us, the murderous, the most shady

Been on the low lately, the Feds hate me

The son of Satan, they say my killing is too blatant

You hesitatin', I'm in your mama crib waitin'

Duct tapin', your fam'

Destiny lays in my hands, gat lays in my waist

Francis, M to the izz-H, phenomenal

Gun rest, under your vest, by the abdominal

Rhyme a few bars, so I could buy a few cars

And I kick a few flows, so I could pimp a few hoes

Excellence, it's my presence

Never tense, never hesitant, leave a nigga bent

Real quick, real sick, brawl nights, I perform like Mike

Anyone - Tyson, Jordan, Jackson

Action, pack guns, ridiculous

And I'm, quick to bust, if my ends you touch

Kids or girl you touch, in this world I clutch

Two auto-matoes, used to call me fatso

Now you call me Castro, my rap flows

Militant, y'all faggots ain't killin' shit

Oops, Cristal keep spillin' shit

You overdid it, Holmes, you in the danger zone, you shouldn't be alone

Hold hands and say it like me

The most shady, Frankie baby

Fantastic, graphic, tryin' to make dough, like Jurassic

Park did quick to spark kids who start shit

See me, only me, the underboss

Of this holocaust, truly yours, Frank White

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@phoenixblue: Ha! Nice.

Fabolous and Jadakiss - F vs. J Intro

I’m dead wrong; you wanna live, I can’t let you

You at full speed, I’m walking, I still catch you

Mr. Voorhees, good looking, I destroy these

These n***** ain’t bosses, they workers and employees

I came out of the lake, but I be in the boondocks

Flannel or overall, work boots, tube socks

I’ll put something right through your face from out the toolbox

N***** get hot and make the news, I make the news hot

You can be as hard as whoever, I crack craniums

You know all my killings are brutal and spontaneous

I like this, pop out, soon as you hit the light switch

Run and then all a sudden you fall like the white chicks

Might have to crush your Adam’s apple with the vice grips

You never see me during the day, I play the night shift

Cartilage, flesh and bone, damp gristle

Be my guest, go ahead and hide, I can’t miss you

You already know I reside at Camp Crystal

Lake, dismantle your face, revamp tissue

Power from the hockey mask, James St. Patrick

Three bodies in one night, that’s a hat trick

Pay the plug soon as you finish, that’s a backflip

Spend six, make 12 back, that’s a crack flip

Sad part about it, you boys ain’t even ready

Preferably my weapon of choice is the machete

Screaming at the top of your lungs before I mangle you

Zip you up in your sleeping bag before I strangle you

Yeah, I had it in me since a youngin’

When you hear that (Kill kill kill), you don’t see me but I’m comin'

Everybody gotta die, every man, every woman

(Kill kill kill) Yeah, it ain’t even no sense in runnin'

(Kill kill kill) Nah, my name ring around the nation

How the crime scene was left, they could tell that it was Jason

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@indomitableregal: Haha, thank you! This one is 🔥, for sure. A great reference and tribute to Jason Voorhees

BTW, I really do have a thing over 2nd verses. XD

[The Notorious B.I.G. - Everyday Struggle ''Verse 2'']

I had the master plan, I'm in the caravan on my way to Maryland

With my man Two-TECs to take over this projects

They call him Two-TECs, he tote two TECs

And when he start to bust, he like to ask "Who's next?"

I got my honey on the Amtrak with the crack

In the crack of her ass, two pounds of hash in the stash

I wait for hon' to make some quick cash

I told her she could be lieutenant, bitch got gassed

At last, I'm literally loungin', black

Sittin' back, countin' double digit thousand stacks

Had to re-up, see what's up with my peeps

Toyota deal-athon had it cheap on the Jeeps

See who got smoked, what rumors was spread

Last I heard, I was dead, with six to the head

Then I got the phone call, it couldn't hit me harder

We got infiltrated, like Nino at the Carter

I heard TEC got murdered in a town I never heard of

By some bitch named Alberta over nickel-plated burners

And my bitch swear to God she won't snitch

I told her when she hit the bricks I'll make the hooker rich

Conspiracy, she'll be home in three

Until then I looks out for the whole family

A true G, that's me, blowin' like a bubble

In the everyday struggle

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@phoenixblue: You know the funny thing is I definitely prefer Big's flow. I'm just doing this for the fun of it lol.

Ghostface Killah ft. Jadakiss - Run

It's Task Force Tuesday, the narcs is in the black car

I got five hundred hundred-packs in my backyard

Clear 12-12's that look like stuffed shells

I'm cutting n*****' throats on the sales, while they puff L's

Don't leave nothing unbagged, shave everything

I learned from the OG's to save everything

They come by one more time, they gon' hop out

They two deep, and one is a b****, she getting knocked out

Then I can get rid of the pack,

But I just copped this pretty chrome thing, so I'm dippin' with that

Uh, down-shifting on 'em like I got gears on me

Besides that, I got about 5 years on me

Scared to death, running like I got bears on me

My Timbs start feeling like they Nike Airs on me

It's hard for me to slow down

It's like I'm on the Thruway

My belt's in the crib on the floor by my two-way

Now I'm trying to hold my hammer up, and my pants too

If they don't kill me, they gon' give me a number I can't do

Rather it be the streets than jail where I die at

And I'm asthmatic, so I'm looking for somewhere to hide at

But they too close, and I got this new toast; imagine if I would've let off a shot or two,

you know what I gotta do

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@indomitableregal: Undoubtedly, Biggie's flow is legendary... Lol. He is even titled "The King of the Flow" himself. And I agree about this nickname.

I'm also doing it just for fun, XD. Even though I'm a huge hip-hop fan (probably already mentioned it). I was even thinking about a rapper tag team here, 2 vs 2, but in this thread, it would really get out of the main focus: Jadakiss vs B.I.G.

[The Notorious B.I.G. - Last Day ''Verse 4'']

Who the fuck wanna squeeze?

My Desert E's make MCs freeze

You wakin' up in cold sweats, they just dreams

You still apologizin'

Analyzin', my size and your size and

Realizin', a fist fight would be asinine

You just pop wines, I must pop nines

Genuine steel piece, nozzle in your grill piece

You're shook up, two bricks, every cook up

We can hook up, all I see is the future

Disrespect, I shoot ya

By the way, them bricks get flipped weekly

Sold by soldiers that mix weed with the leak leak

Die for a dollar nigga, life ain't sweet

Play for keeps, wet shirts with experts on the creep

Our beef is my fiancé, about to marry it

Illegal transactions in Farragut with Arabics

Why not, they fit twelve up in the bedroom

Imagine what they stash is like, make you a classic like

My first LP, beef with me is unhealthy

Fuck around and get an ulcer, loose your pulse or

Collapsed lung, look how many gats I brung

For them homos, still doin' promos

Break both your legs, you're movin' slow-mo'

Got shine to glow mo'

Nine hundred and ninety six grams, you need four mo'

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#128  Edited By Phoenixblue

My rapper tag-team when trading verses with someone online again would be Big Pun and Biggie, both BIG's (and also, they are both CHRISTOPHERS: Christopher Wallace and Christopher Rios). But I don't know if you know him (Pun), because even though he was ridiculously lyrical, he was kind of underrated. Like, he is rarely mentioned on forums like that and etc. But seriously, if I had to bet MONEY on a duo of rappers in a real battle, that would be really competing in events against others and etc, I would bet in the following duo: BIG L and BIG PUN. These two were extremely extraordinary, they had a very quick thinking to form verses and make imppvised freestyles actually looks like it was already written. Half of Big L's lyrics were not even written, but improvised in freestyles or with influence on his previous street battles, for example, and he once went to an event that contained 100 rappers and simply beated them all there. There is a interview of Fat Joe on YouTube where he says that Big L would battle the biggest dudes of the time fair and square and would most of the times win of them. Seriously, it would be a hard duo to defeat. Not to mention that Fat Joe also worked with Big Pun and said that Big Pun was like his brother. sorry for the big text, like I said I'm very addicted to hip-hop, lol

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@phoenixblue: Big Pun isn't underrated lol. He might not get as much widespread recognition as Biggie or Pac, but he was big (no pun intended) in his own right, and if you know hip hop, you know who he is. And for the record, I'm a hip hop head -- you don't have to explain who any of these artists are to me. XD

If I had to pick a tag team...I don't know. Too many great options to choose from lol. I would probably go with Eminem and Royce Da 5'9". Individually they can hold their own against anyone in any category, and as a duo, they just have an insane amount of chemistry. They make each other even better, which is saying a lot. If not them, then maybe Black Thought and Rakim.

For future reference, you need to censor that N-word when you use it. You can get away with most stuff here, but not that.

Jadakiss - Nightmares and Migraines

You ain’t getting no money, that dumb s*** is senseless

I’m moving that dog food from Maryland to Memphis

Before I sold a record I was platinum in the trenches

Before I got in the game, I started on the benches

You minor league, I’m Ivy League, Princeton

I get it off the boat, after they sail 'em, Winston

All you have to do is add water, instant

N****'ll kill you over a quarter, or 10 cents

That’s when your conscience starts speaking to your mind

Start looking for s***, seek and you should find

Up all hours of the night, peeking through the blind

Now you only communicating by speaking through your 9

Constantly waking up sweating and you’re cold

You don’t wanna die but you regretting getting old

Keep thinking whoever got knocked must of told

Either that, or maybe it’s a n**** on parole

That put them on to you, to get them off of him

Figure with you gone, f*** it, it’s more for him

Besides, he don’t wanna go up north again

'Cause that ain’t no place for a n**** as soft as him

They ain’t even on to you yet, but you running

You don’t know exactly when they coming, but they coming

When you love dealing, you get a gut feeling

Feet above water, money above ceiling

Least a quarter million in a Damier duffle

You know me, I’m bringing the army and they’ll touch you

Light that, pass that, n**** where the hash at?

Bill Gates headaches, Scarface flashbacks

Nah, ain't no comparing that

Foreign attitude, so I'm wearing that

That little heart you got, I’m putting fear in that

And I ain’t gotta say, you know where I’m at

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@indomitableregal: Of course when we talking 'bout duos we can't forget K-Rino and Canibus, Apathy and Celph Titled, Vinnie Paz and Ill Bill, etc... I feel they sh*t hard. Not to mention the duo of brothers Big Pun and Fat Joe themselves, lol. I also really enjoyed when Immortal Technique made a collaboration with Chino XL and Crooked I in Lick Shot. Oh, and Immortal Technique and Diabolic too, in both the hidden track and in Frontlines. I could, currently, stay here just mentioning hip-hop duos from the day to the dawn: Mobb Depp, Gang Starr, Eric B. & Rakim (yeah, of course, Rakim), Meth and Redman, Dogg Pound, EPMD, etc... but I won't, because the main focus here is trade verses between Biggie and Jada, hahahah. One more thing: You mentioned Black Thought, who also made a duo with Big Pun and was, allegedly, Big Pun's favorite rapper and his inspiration on the game, and the Big Pun verse in this song is one of my all-time favorite verses.

And thanks for the word warning, I will try to be more cautious about this.

[The Notorious B.I.G. -Dead Wrong ''Verse 1'']

Relax and take notes

While I take tokes of the marijuana smoke

Throw you in a choke, gun smoke, gun smoke

Biggie Smalls for mayor, the rap slayer, the hooker layer

Motherf*cker, say your prayers

"Hail Mary, full of grace-" smack the b*tch in the face

Take her Gucci bag and the North Face off her back

Jab her if she act (uh-huh) funny with the money

Oh, you got me mistaken, honey

I don't wanna rape ya, I just want the paper (uh-huh)

The Visa, capisce-ah? I'm out like The Vapors

Who's the one you call Mr. Macho?

The head honcho, swift fists like Cu-macho

I got so much styles I should be down with the Stylistics

"Make up to break up", n*ggas need to wake up

Smell the Indonesia, beat you to a seizure

Then f*ck your moms, hit the skins to amnesia

She don't remember sh*t, just the two hits

Her hittin' the floor and me hittin' the cl*t (yeah)

Sucking on the tits (uh), had the hooker beggin' for the d*ck

And your moms ain't ugly, love, my d*ck got rock quick

I guess I was a combination of House of Pain and Bobby Brown

I was Humpin' Around and Jumpin' around

Jacked her, then I asked her "Who's the man?"

She said "B-I-G", then I b*st in her E-Y-E