Jadakiss better than Biggie?
BIG was nice for his time... but Jada is just as good as BIG lyrically... and album wise I think their even since both of them have 2 good albums... and at least 1 shitty one
Exactly. For his time. Put that in perspective. Biggie and Pac revolutionized rap into the styles we all see and here today. If Biggie was still here he'd be shittin on all these rappers. Jada included.
" Exactly. For his time. Put that in perspective. Biggie and Pac revolutionized rap into the styles we all see and here today. If Biggie was still here he'd be shittin on all these rappers. Jada included. "I do not care what they supposedly did for hip hop... I am only looking at BIG and Jadakiss on skill level and quality of music overall... and really I do not see BIG being better than Jadakiss lyrically... nor album wise in terms of quality...
" yes... Jadakiss is better than BIG... and I am not joking either...What was Big's shitty album?? One of those post-mortem ones?
BIG was nice for his time... but Jada is just as good as BIG lyrically... and album wise I think their even since both of them have 2 good albums... and at least 1 shitty one "
Jada has a bunch of great verses but imo his songs just don't compare to Biggie's. 'Gimmie the Loot' and 'I got a Story to tell' are still mind blowing to this day. The only thing Big has going against him is longevity but from 94-97 he was a beast. Life After Death is probably the second greatest double album ever after Wu-tang Forever.
" @King Saturn said:Born Again was a Shitty Album... whether he was Dead or not when it came out... the album is credited to him... and it sucked" yes... Jadakiss is better than BIG... and I am not joking either...What was Big's shitty album?? One of those post-mortem ones? Jada has a bunch of great verses but imo his songs just don't compare to Biggie's. 'Gimmie the Loot' and 'I got a Story to tell' are still mind blowing to this day. The only thing Big has going against him is longevity but from 94-97 he was a beast. Life After Death is probably the second greatest double album ever after Wu-tang Forever. "
BIG was nice for his time... but Jada is just as good as BIG lyrically... and album wise I think their even since both of them have 2 good albums... and at least 1 shitty one "
and personally I like some of Jada's songs more than Big's even outside of Jada being a better lyricist then BIG... anywho, you can keep talking until the cows come home... there is not anything you could say to convince me BIG is better than Jada... Nothing
Born again had Rap Phenomenon which officially makes it 5 mics... lol j/k. It was an album made with unreleased verses that might not have seen the light of day if he were still alive. I don't count that as an album unless its something like The Lost Tapes or Hidden Darts where the artist had a hand in making it. If Nas died and someone made an album out of his table scraps I wouldn't attribute that to him.
" Born again had Rap Phenomenon which officially makes it 5 mics... lol j/k. It was an album made with unreleased verses that might not have seen the light of day if he were still alive. I don't count that as an album unless its something like The Lost Tapes or Hidden Darts where the artist had a hand in making it. If Nas died and someone made an album out of his table scraps I wouldn't attribute that to him. "thats you... I count it as a Notorious BIG album... because I bought it... and it sucked ass... and since its credited as a Notorious BIG album... in my eyes... that is his album... whether he lived to see it or not...
"Prodigy from Mobb Deep >>> Biggie "I could understand if you listed Havoc here, but Prodigy? LOL.
" @The Mjolnir Wielder said:They're two of my favorites, I just personally feel that Havoc has the much better flow and rhyme structure." @G Bird said:Prodigy >>> Havoc, but I do like both. Lyrically though, Prodigy would run laps around Havoc. ""Prodigy from Mobb Deep >>> Biggie "I could understand if you listed Havoc here, but Prodigy? LOL. "
" Just 50 MCs that I feel are better than Biggie. It's personal opinion, so if you disagree, I don't really care.I'm fine with Nas being #1, but I have a problem with these:
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- Nas
- Black Thought
- AZ
- Big L
- Big Pun
- Slug
- Eyedea
- Guru
- KRS-One
- Kool G Rap
- Big Daddy Kane
- GZA
- Mos Def
- MF Doom
- Talib Kweli
- Andre 3000
- Ras Kass
- Jay-Z
- Pharoahe Monch
- Common
- Lupe
- LL Cool J
- Aesop Rock
- Murs
- Method Man
- Rakim
- Ghostface
- Raekwon
- Inspectah Deck
- Slick Rick
- Elzhi
- Brother Ali
- Immortal Technique
- Busdriver
- Vinnie Paz
- Eminem
- Apathy
- Del
- Lauryn Hill
- Kiss
- R.A.
- Scarface
- Killa Priest
- CL Smooth
- Jean
- Masta Ace
- Royce
- Termanology
- MC Shan
- Sage Francis
1. Black Thought over Big L, Pun and AZ?
2. Andre 3000 is ranked waaaaaay too high IMO.
3. Brother Ali is ranked waaaaaaaaaay too low IMO.
4. R.A. is definitely a top 10 emcee, maybe even top 5.
5. Royce Da 5'9'' is also easily in the top 10 IMO.
6. Vinnie Paz, and JMT in general, is hella overrated, and shouldn't even be on that list.
7. I may be biased here, but Papoose is better lyrically than quite a bit of those you listed.
WHUT? 3000 doesn't have a bad verse to his name and consistently comes with shit that kills every other thing out there (Royal Flush verse, Intl players anthem verse, Walk it out remix, A life in the day of Benjamin Andre, every other outkast album from southernplaya to sb/tlb)
The only thing going against him is that he's been dropping like 1 song a year ever since idlewild flopped.
Alright. Let's throw HERE Biggie verses vs. Jadakiss verses and see which one will win when the opponent finally says "I give up".
My time.
[The Notorious B.I.G. - Kick On The Door ''Verse 2'']
On your mark, get set, when I spark, you're wet
Look how dark it get when you're marked for death
Should I, start your breath or should I let you die?
In fear you start to cry, ask why?
Lyrically, I'm worshiped, don't front, the word's sick
You cursed it, but rehearsed it
I drop unexpectedly like bird shit
You herbs get stuck quickly for royalties and show money
Don't forget the publishin', I punish them
I'm done with them, son I'm surprised you run with them
I think they got cum in them, 'cause they nothin' but dicks
Tryna blow up like nitro and dynamite sticks
Mad I smoke hydro, rock diamonds that's sick
Got pay off my flow, rhyme with my own clique
Take trips to Cairo, layin' with yo' bitch
I know you prayin' you was rich
Fuckin' prick, when I see you, I'mma...
@phoenixblue: I'd bet money no one was gonna respond, so I'm throwing you a bone lol.
Gang Starr ft. Jadakiss - Rite Where U Stand
You wanna know why I invest
All my money into haze and into dope?
‘Cause right now, I'm currently a slave for Interscope
Respect first, then money – basic s***
If you got n***** under pressure, you could take they s***
Listen, I'ma leave you right where you stand
Have the ambulance
Pass your Timberlands off right to your man
‘Cause he p****, he ain't gonna do nothin' but look
When it come to beef, he don't want do nothin' but cook
As soon as the chrome scope him
Right there, two in the dome, smokin'
Kiss keeps funeral homes open
I fall back, smoke an ounce in the dark
Bounce on a Preme track like I bounce on a narc
Keep playing, y'all n***** will burn
And you know they say it takes something to happen for n***** to learn
Let the .40 Cal give 'em a perm
This industry is like bacteria, and my flow is a germ
Just mad ‘cause you'll never be as nice as I am
J to the "mwah" and I'll leave you right where you stand
[The Notorious B.I.G. - Victory ''Verse 2'']
In the commission, you ask for permission to hit 'em
He don't like me, hit him while wifey was with him
You heard of us, the murderous, the most shady
Been on the low lately, the Feds hate me
The son of Satan, they say my killing is too blatant
You hesitatin', I'm in your mama crib waitin'
Duct tapin', your fam'
Destiny lays in my hands, gat lays in my waist
Francis, M to the izz-H, phenomenal
Gun rest, under your vest, by the abdominal
Rhyme a few bars, so I could buy a few cars
And I kick a few flows, so I could pimp a few hoes
Excellence, it's my presence
Never tense, never hesitant, leave a nigga bent
Real quick, real sick, brawl nights, I perform like Mike
Anyone - Tyson, Jordan, Jackson
Action, pack guns, ridiculous
And I'm, quick to bust, if my ends you touch
Kids or girl you touch, in this world I clutch
Two auto-matoes, used to call me fatso
Now you call me Castro, my rap flows
Militant, y'all faggots ain't killin' shit
Oops, Cristal keep spillin' shit
You overdid it, Holmes, you in the danger zone, you shouldn't be alone
Hold hands and say it like me
The most shady, Frankie baby
Fantastic, graphic, tryin' to make dough, like Jurassic
Park did quick to spark kids who start shit
See me, only me, the underboss
Of this holocaust, truly yours, Frank White
@phoenixblue: Ha! Nice.
Fabolous and Jadakiss - F vs. J Intro
I’m dead wrong; you wanna live, I can’t let you
You at full speed, I’m walking, I still catch you
Mr. Voorhees, good looking, I destroy these
These n***** ain’t bosses, they workers and employees
I came out of the lake, but I be in the boondocks
Flannel or overall, work boots, tube socks
I’ll put something right through your face from out the toolbox
N***** get hot and make the news, I make the news hot
You can be as hard as whoever, I crack craniums
You know all my killings are brutal and spontaneous
I like this, pop out, soon as you hit the light switch
Run and then all a sudden you fall like the white chicks
Might have to crush your Adam’s apple with the vice grips
You never see me during the day, I play the night shift
Cartilage, flesh and bone, damp gristle
Be my guest, go ahead and hide, I can’t miss you
You already know I reside at Camp Crystal
Lake, dismantle your face, revamp tissue
Power from the hockey mask, James St. Patrick
Three bodies in one night, that’s a hat trick
Pay the plug soon as you finish, that’s a backflip
Spend six, make 12 back, that’s a crack flip
Sad part about it, you boys ain’t even ready
Preferably my weapon of choice is the machete
Screaming at the top of your lungs before I mangle you
Zip you up in your sleeping bag before I strangle you
Yeah, I had it in me since a youngin’
When you hear that (Kill kill kill), you don’t see me but I’m comin'
Everybody gotta die, every man, every woman
(Kill kill kill) Yeah, it ain’t even no sense in runnin'
(Kill kill kill) Nah, my name ring around the nation
How the crime scene was left, they could tell that it was Jason
@indomitableregal: Haha, thank you! This one is 🔥, for sure. A great reference and tribute to Jason Voorhees
BTW, I really do have a thing over 2nd verses. XD
[The Notorious B.I.G. - Everyday Struggle ''Verse 2'']
I had the master plan, I'm in the caravan on my way to Maryland
With my man Two-TECs to take over this projects
They call him Two-TECs, he tote two TECs
And when he start to bust, he like to ask "Who's next?"
I got my honey on the Amtrak with the crack
In the crack of her ass, two pounds of hash in the stash
I wait for hon' to make some quick cash
I told her she could be lieutenant, bitch got gassed
At last, I'm literally loungin', black
Sittin' back, countin' double digit thousand stacks
Had to re-up, see what's up with my peeps
Toyota deal-athon had it cheap on the Jeeps
See who got smoked, what rumors was spread
Last I heard, I was dead, with six to the head
Then I got the phone call, it couldn't hit me harder
We got infiltrated, like Nino at the Carter
I heard TEC got murdered in a town I never heard of
By some bitch named Alberta over nickel-plated burners
And my bitch swear to God she won't snitch
I told her when she hit the bricks I'll make the hooker rich
Conspiracy, she'll be home in three
Until then I looks out for the whole family
A true G, that's me, blowin' like a bubble
In the everyday struggle
@phoenixblue: You know the funny thing is I definitely prefer Big's flow. I'm just doing this for the fun of it lol.
Ghostface Killah ft. Jadakiss - Run
It's Task Force Tuesday, the narcs is in the black car
I got five hundred hundred-packs in my backyard
Clear 12-12's that look like stuffed shells
I'm cutting n*****' throats on the sales, while they puff L's
Don't leave nothing unbagged, shave everything
I learned from the OG's to save everything
They come by one more time, they gon' hop out
They two deep, and one is a b****, she getting knocked out
Then I can get rid of the pack,
But I just copped this pretty chrome thing, so I'm dippin' with that
Uh, down-shifting on 'em like I got gears on me
Besides that, I got about 5 years on me
Scared to death, running like I got bears on me
My Timbs start feeling like they Nike Airs on me
It's hard for me to slow down
It's like I'm on the Thruway
My belt's in the crib on the floor by my two-way
Now I'm trying to hold my hammer up, and my pants too
If they don't kill me, they gon' give me a number I can't do
Rather it be the streets than jail where I die at
And I'm asthmatic, so I'm looking for somewhere to hide at
But they too close, and I got this new toast; imagine if I would've let off a shot or two,
you know what I gotta do
@indomitableregal: Undoubtedly, Biggie's flow is legendary... Lol. He is even titled "The King of the Flow" himself. And I agree about this nickname.
I'm also doing it just for fun, XD. Even though I'm a huge hip-hop fan (probably already mentioned it). I was even thinking about a rapper tag team here, 2 vs 2, but in this thread, it would really get out of the main focus: Jadakiss vs B.I.G.
[The Notorious B.I.G. - Last Day ''Verse 4'']
Who the fuck wanna squeeze?
My Desert E's make MCs freeze
You wakin' up in cold sweats, they just dreams
You still apologizin'
Analyzin', my size and your size and
Realizin', a fist fight would be asinine
You just pop wines, I must pop nines
Genuine steel piece, nozzle in your grill piece
You're shook up, two bricks, every cook up
We can hook up, all I see is the future
Disrespect, I shoot ya
By the way, them bricks get flipped weekly
Sold by soldiers that mix weed with the leak leak
Die for a dollar nigga, life ain't sweet
Play for keeps, wet shirts with experts on the creep
Our beef is my fiancé, about to marry it
Illegal transactions in Farragut with Arabics
Why not, they fit twelve up in the bedroom
Imagine what they stash is like, make you a classic like
My first LP, beef with me is unhealthy
Fuck around and get an ulcer, loose your pulse or
Collapsed lung, look how many gats I brung
For them homos, still doin' promos
Break both your legs, you're movin' slow-mo'
Got shine to glow mo'
Nine hundred and ninety six grams, you need four mo'
My rapper tag-team when trading verses with someone online again would be Big Pun and Biggie, both BIG's (and also, they are both CHRISTOPHERS: Christopher Wallace and Christopher Rios). But I don't know if you know him (Pun), because even though he was ridiculously lyrical, he was kind of underrated. Like, he is rarely mentioned on forums like that and etc. But seriously, if I had to bet MONEY on a duo of rappers in a real battle, that would be really competing in events against others and etc, I would bet in the following duo: BIG L and BIG PUN. These two were extremely extraordinary, they had a very quick thinking to form verses and make imppvised freestyles actually looks like it was already written. Half of Big L's lyrics were not even written, but improvised in freestyles or with influence on his previous street battles, for example, and he once went to an event that contained 100 rappers and simply beated them all there. There is a interview of Fat Joe on YouTube where he says that Big L would battle the biggest dudes of the time fair and square and would most of the times win of them. Seriously, it would be a hard duo to defeat. Not to mention that Fat Joe also worked with Big Pun and said that Big Pun was like his brother. sorry for the big text, like I said I'm very addicted to hip-hop, lol
@phoenixblue: Big Pun isn't underrated lol. He might not get as much widespread recognition as Biggie or Pac, but he was big (no pun intended) in his own right, and if you know hip hop, you know who he is. And for the record, I'm a hip hop head -- you don't have to explain who any of these artists are to me. XD
If I had to pick a tag team...I don't know. Too many great options to choose from lol. I would probably go with Eminem and Royce Da 5'9". Individually they can hold their own against anyone in any category, and as a duo, they just have an insane amount of chemistry. They make each other even better, which is saying a lot. If not them, then maybe Black Thought and Rakim.
For future reference, you need to censor that N-word when you use it. You can get away with most stuff here, but not that.
Jadakiss - Nightmares and Migraines
You ain’t getting no money, that dumb s*** is senseless
I’m moving that dog food from Maryland to Memphis
Before I sold a record I was platinum in the trenches
Before I got in the game, I started on the benches
You minor league, I’m Ivy League, Princeton
I get it off the boat, after they sail 'em, Winston
All you have to do is add water, instant
N****'ll kill you over a quarter, or 10 cents
That’s when your conscience starts speaking to your mind
Start looking for s***, seek and you should find
Up all hours of the night, peeking through the blind
Now you only communicating by speaking through your 9
Constantly waking up sweating and you’re cold
You don’t wanna die but you regretting getting old
Keep thinking whoever got knocked must of told
Either that, or maybe it’s a n**** on parole
That put them on to you, to get them off of him
Figure with you gone, f*** it, it’s more for him
Besides, he don’t wanna go up north again
'Cause that ain’t no place for a n**** as soft as him
They ain’t even on to you yet, but you running
You don’t know exactly when they coming, but they coming
When you love dealing, you get a gut feeling
Feet above water, money above ceiling
Least a quarter million in a Damier duffle
You know me, I’m bringing the army and they’ll touch you
Light that, pass that, n**** where the hash at?
Bill Gates headaches, Scarface flashbacks
Nah, ain't no comparing that
Foreign attitude, so I'm wearing that
That little heart you got, I’m putting fear in that
And I ain’t gotta say, you know where I’m at
@indomitableregal: Of course when we talking 'bout duos we can't forget K-Rino and Canibus, Apathy and Celph Titled, Vinnie Paz and Ill Bill, etc... I feel they sh*t hard. Not to mention the duo of brothers Big Pun and Fat Joe themselves, lol. I also really enjoyed when Immortal Technique made a collaboration with Chino XL and Crooked I in Lick Shot. Oh, and Immortal Technique and Diabolic too, in both the hidden track and in Frontlines. I could, currently, stay here just mentioning hip-hop duos from the day to the dawn: Mobb Depp, Gang Starr, Eric B. & Rakim (yeah, of course, Rakim), Meth and Redman, Dogg Pound, EPMD, etc... but I won't, because the main focus here is trade verses between Biggie and Jada, hahahah. One more thing: You mentioned Black Thought, who also made a duo with Big Pun and was, allegedly, Big Pun's favorite rapper and his inspiration on the game, and the Big Pun verse in this song is one of my all-time favorite verses.
And thanks for the word warning, I will try to be more cautious about this.
[The Notorious B.I.G. -Dead Wrong ''Verse 1'']
Relax and take notes
While I take tokes of the marijuana smoke
Throw you in a choke, gun smoke, gun smoke
Biggie Smalls for mayor, the rap slayer, the hooker layer
Motherf*cker, say your prayers
"Hail Mary, full of grace-" smack the b*tch in the face
Take her Gucci bag and the North Face off her back
Jab her if she act (uh-huh) funny with the money
Oh, you got me mistaken, honey
I don't wanna rape ya, I just want the paper (uh-huh)
The Visa, capisce-ah? I'm out like The Vapors
Who's the one you call Mr. Macho?
The head honcho, swift fists like Cu-macho
I got so much styles I should be down with the Stylistics
"Make up to break up", n*ggas need to wake up
Smell the Indonesia, beat you to a seizure
Then f*ck your moms, hit the skins to amnesia
She don't remember sh*t, just the two hits
Her hittin' the floor and me hittin' the cl*t (yeah)
Sucking on the tits (uh), had the hooker beggin' for the d*ck
And your moms ain't ugly, love, my d*ck got rock quick
I guess I was a combination of House of Pain and Bobby Brown
I was Humpin' Around and Jumpin' around
Jacked her, then I asked her "Who's the man?"
She said "B-I-G", then I b*st in her E-Y-E
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