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#1 Posted by hudyman (1682 posts) - - Show Bio

What are your opinions on piracy, do you think it's justified or are you completely against it.

#2 Edited by Outside_85 (8147 posts) - - Show Bio

It is stealing, pure and simple, and stealing is not ok.

#3 Posted by consolemaster001 (4976 posts) - - Show Bio

Yes

#4 Posted by Pr0metheus (4964 posts) - - Show Bio

I pirate video games occasionally im sketchy about.

If i like it ill buy it,If i dont ill undownload it cause why would i want it?

I dont think people should go to jail for doing it though while people go free for murdering innocents.

#5 Posted by Emequious_Swerve (1268 posts) - - Show Bio

@outside_85 said:

It is stealing, pure and simple, and stealing is not ok.

I think there is a bit more to it than that. lol.

#6 Posted by hudyman (1682 posts) - - Show Bio

I pirate video games occasionally im sketchy about.

If i like it ill buy it,If i dont ill undownload it cause why would i want it?

I dont think people should go to jail for doing it though while people go free for murdering innocents.

Most people who say that hardly even think to consider buying the game, if you finished play the game you just downloaded there wouldnt really be a point in a buying the same game and doing the same things you already did all over again.

#7 Edited by nerdork (4035 posts) - - Show Bio

Piracy is definitely in a, moral, gray area; personally I don’t pirate anything. Well, not since my sophomore year in college anyways. But, I don’t condemn those that do. Whether or not i think it is okay...well, it is stealing, that's why i stopped. Not armed robbery, but stealing nonetheless.

#8 Edited by unBREAKable_Fs4 (1494 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm not really sure. I know I pirate music, and most people I know do as well. I only buy an album or song if it's really good or if I want to support an artist.

#9 Posted by ThatGuyWithHeadPhones (10362 posts) - - Show Bio

No, It's bad

#10 Posted by PeppeyHare (4310 posts) - - Show Bio

No. If you don't think something is worth your money you don't get said product. Stealing isn't ok

#11 Edited by Fallschirmjager (15263 posts) - - Show Bio

I pirate things. I can justify it pretty easily. Especially what I pirate the most - music

#12 Edited by Outside_85 (8147 posts) - - Show Bio

@emequious_swerve said:

@outside_85 said:

It is stealing, pure and simple, and stealing is not ok.

I think there is a bit more to it than that. lol.

In legal terms; no. A person pirating an electronic item is copying it for their own use (normally) without intending to compensate those who put work into making the item. And by that I mean those who don't go out and buy the item afterwards in some way or form.

I suppose you are thinking of Metallica and how much stick they got from fans because of how they used get their name out and about?

#13 Posted by V_Scarlotte_Rose (6131 posts) - - Show Bio

Nope. I'm against it.

#14 Posted by turel_hash_ak_gik (350 posts) - - Show Bio

i pirate everything. from music to comics. reason? why should i pay for something i can get for free? is it stealing? what am i stealing? something that isnt there? i would buy comics if i could but when a store opens up in my country (and i live in the capital), the prices are outrageous. 1 volume costs 15 to 25 $ in america. here starting price is 27$ for all no matter the book. oh and we dont get single issues at all.

#15 Posted by Bluff_ (283 posts) - - Show Bio

@emequious_swerve said:

@outside_85 said:

It is stealing, pure and simple, and stealing is not ok.

I think there is a bit more to it than that. lol.

In legal terms; no. A person pirating an electronic item is copying it for their own use (normally) without intending to compensate those who put work into making the item. And by that I mean those who don't go out and buy the item afterwards in some way or form.

I suppose you are thinking of Metallica and how much stick they got from fans because of how they used get their name out and about?

What about pirating music from artists who are no longer being compensated for their hard work because they're either dead or no longer making/benefiting from their music? (Michael Jackson, John Lennon)

Just curious on where you stand with that.

#16 Posted by Pyrogram (35143 posts) - - Show Bio

I feel sorry but admire the self righteous people in this life who resist temptation lmfao

#17 Edited by Cezar_TheScribe (2614 posts) - - Show Bio

#18 Posted by Outside_85 (8147 posts) - - Show Bio

@bluff_ said:

What about pirating music from artists who are no longer being compensated for their hard work because they're either dead or no longer making/benefiting from their music? (Michael Jackson, John Lennon)

Just curious on where you stand with that.

If I am not mistaken, some artists make sure that in the event of their passing, any money they make afterwards from go to either a cause they approve of or their families. If we are talking about Mozart and such, it is rather the musicians performing the work you are supporting by buying a record.

#19 Posted by Fallschirmjager (15263 posts) - - Show Bio

Most money you spend on an album goes to the record label.

If you want to support your favorite bands, go to concerts. They make way more money off those then they do albums.

#20 Posted by Hazlenaut (1960 posts) - - Show Bio

It matters the situation. If there is something wrong with the order it would seem justified for the actions. Yes there will be taken advantage of it just like there are people take advantage of the law. Is there a better way for doing these oppressors and the thieves that are hide their actions? I hope so that will mean our descendants would be prepared for it, but until then we stuck in the cycle until someone got the solution. It is just like the time when counterfeiters were considered heroes.

#21 Posted by jwalser3 (4797 posts) - - Show Bio

Most money you spend on an album goes to the record label.

If you want to support your favorite bands, go to concerts. They make way more money off those then they do albums.

#22 Edited by jwalser3 (4797 posts) - - Show Bio

I bet 99% of you have pirated music.

#23 Posted by WarBlade539 (4498 posts) - - Show Bio

If it's Capcom or some of the EA s**t, then yes but...only in some cases.

For games that required hardwork and determination and it shows in the final product, NO!

For games that require huge downloads despite the 60$ disk price and crap-load of DRM, YES!

For bad games or extremely short games. YES!

#24 Posted by hudyman (1682 posts) - - Show Bio

If it's Capcom or some of the EA s**t, then yes but...only in some cases.

For games that required hardwork and determination and it shows in the final product, NO!

For games that require huge downloads despite the 60$ disk price and crap-load of DRM, YES!

For bad games or extremely short games. YES!

You can't exactly say a game is bad, it's really all a matter of opinion

#25 Edited by Bawlsz (31 posts) - - Show Bio

The only time I pirate a game, is when a game I legitimately bought does not work on my computer. Some Ubisoft and EA games that i bought for computer do not work because of some DRM issues. I then download the game because some of them allow you to run the game free of DRM or some other issues.

I already own the games i bought when I pirate them, and I only pirate when my legitimate copy no longer works on my PC.

#26 Posted by WarBlade539 (4498 posts) - - Show Bio

@hudyman said:

@darkazrael999 said:

If it's Capcom or some of the EA s**t, then yes but...only in some cases.

For games that required hardwork and determination and it shows in the final product, NO!

For games that require huge downloads despite the 60$ disk price and crap-load of DRM, YES!

For bad games or extremely short games. YES!

You can't exactly say a game is bad, it's really all a matter of opinion

Oh, I disagree! Some games are just bad throughout. Ride to Hell, MOH: Warfighter, Kane and Lynch 2, Fable III, almost every movie-licensed games besides a few ones, Resident Evil: Operation Racoon City and Resident Evil 6, Sonic Free Riders.

#27 Posted by silkyballfro94 (1557 posts) - - Show Bio

Ok I think we've all done our fair share of pirating. My fair share was with music and I used limewire. Is is it justified? I don't know but I do know that you are taking away potential sales and profit from the people who made it.

#28 Edited by MaccyD (3553 posts) - - Show Bio

No, electronic entertainment is a privilege not a necessity.

#29 Posted by scorpion2501 (5171 posts) - - Show Bio

Ya lily-livered landlubbers, piracy be a jolly thin'.
Live like a real scurvy dog, matey.

#30 Posted by nerdork (4035 posts) - - Show Bio

Ya lily-livered landlubbers, piracy be a jolly thin'.

Live like a real scurvy dog, matey.

LOL :P

#31 Posted by russellmania77 (14606 posts) - - Show Bio

Stealing but I mean no more harmless than stealing candy

#32 Posted by scorpion2501 (5171 posts) - - Show Bio

@nerdork said:

@scorpion2501 said:

Ya lily-livered landlubbers, piracy be a jolly thin'.

Live like a real scurvy dog, matey.

LOL :P

What ye be saying?
Get to me ship and start swabbin' sailor.
Ye don't want to clean the bekkens do ya?

#33 Edited by The_Lunact_And_Manic (3286 posts) - - Show Bio

Hm..yeah...sure.

Why someone would do that? FFS that's wrong!

It's not like I have a folder on my PC that contains exactly 1237 comics, 298 songs and 3 games. >_>

#34 Posted by Bluff_ (283 posts) - - Show Bio
#35 Edited by Emequious_Swerve (1268 posts) - - Show Bio


In legal terms; no. A person pirating an electronic item is copying it for their own use (normally) without intending to compensate those who put work into making the item. And by that I mean those who don't go out and buy the item afterwards in some way or form.

I suppose you are thinking of Metallica and how much stick they got from fans because of how they used get their name out and about?

Yeah. I agree with you there. If you're using pirated material to sell stuff or whatever for personal monetary gain, that is stealing.

However, if you are just using it for your own personal entertainment I don't see anything wrong with that. For instance they if you watch a movie online illegally or something that is considered stealing. Although I don't see anything wrong with that, if you like the movie enough you could buy the DVD or Blu Ray. The sad fact is corporations just think everyone just has disposable income all the time and due to the ever growing need of accessories and other non necessities, people have anything but the money to spend on some album for a couple of songs or whatever be the case.

#36 Posted by Outside_85 (8147 posts) - - Show Bio

@emequious_swerve said:

The sad fact is corporations just think everyone just has disposable income all the time and due to the ever growing need of accessories and other non necessities, people have anything but the money to spend on some album for a couple of songs or whatever be the case.

On the other hand, they aren't running a charity either, somewhere in that big monster of a corporation that made the product there are people with average wagers that are also losing money in the long run.

There is a somewhat similar example for this; I, Vampire and DC's (pinheaded tpb release schedule). The book had really strong reviews from critics and fans, and apparently sold really well as a trade paperback, but because no one was buying the single issues (either due to trade waiting or piracy) it was ended after 12 issues and the writer went for a few months without anything before showing up at Marvel.

That said, I don't know how big the real reader figures (buyers and pirates) were for it, but maybe it could have lasted longer had things been different?

#37 Edited by NorrinBoltagonPrime21 (5512 posts) - - Show Bio

It hurts the company so they think its not justified but for the person, they think its justified.

#38 Posted by Pr0metheus (4964 posts) - - Show Bio

@hudyman said:

@darkazrael999 said:

If it's Capcom or some of the EA s**t, then yes but...only in some cases.

For games that required hardwork and determination and it shows in the final product, NO!

For games that require huge downloads despite the 60$ disk price and crap-load of DRM, YES!

For bad games or extremely short games. YES!

You can't exactly say a game is bad, it's really all a matter of opinion

Oh, I disagree! Some games are just bad throughout. Ride to Hell, MOH: Warfighter, Kane and Lynch 2, Fable III, almost every movie-licensed games besides a few ones, Resident Evil: Operation Racoon City and Resident Evil 6, Sonic Free Riders.

I loved Kane and Lynch 2!

#39 Posted by LimpoyzLoan (1630 posts) - - Show Bio

Yes, because having to pay 800 for software that in the end isn't really worth it is TOTALLY unjustifiable.

#40 Posted by SpideyIvyDaredevilFan26 (5880 posts) - - Show Bio

Being a pirate is alright with me. :)

#41 Posted by Manchine (3985 posts) - - Show Bio

Stealing is wrong on so many levels. There is no way to justify it.

#42 Posted by PowerHerc (81637 posts) - - Show Bio

No. Piracy is stealing.

#43 Posted by Squares (4929 posts) - - Show Bio

On one hand, stealing is wrong and all that. On the other hand, stuff is too goddamn expensive these days....

#44 Posted by Dabee (2380 posts) - - Show Bio

Piracy is not stealing, plain and simple. Nobody is losing anything. I download a lot of retro games from the early 90s. There is literally no way to buy most of these games, save for buying the cartridges on EBay and digging out my old Genesis. (I have a retro game store near my house, but even then the money doesn't go to the creators.) I really don't see anyone being hurt at all if I download a ROM for the classic Avengers arcade game on the Genesis.

I also pirated Photoshop. Again, nobody is being hurt. I'm not going to pay over one-thousand dollars for software. The price is what it is for big businesses that make money off of it. As long as I'm not making money off of it, there's no logical reason I shouldn't be able to save that money.

I understand how some people have moral oppositions towards piracy, but to call it stealing is overboard.

#45 Edited by mrdecepticonleader (17602 posts) - - Show Bio

People still buy albums?

#46 Posted by thespideyguy (2645 posts) - - Show Bio

The only reason I don't is because I like cd quality better.

#47 Edited by Cooldes (3925 posts) - - Show Bio

Well... i watch One Piece so...

#48 Posted by ImTheDamnBatman (3548 posts) - - Show Bio

Piracy is theft. It can be justified in only rare cases.

To everyone saying it "doesn't hurt anybody". Neither does plaigarism, or stealing someone's patent. Would you justify those as well?

Piracy is stealing. I'm a criminal justice major and we did a section on this.

#49 Posted by Tohoma (1380 posts) - - Show Bio

Its funny piracy actually got me into buying comics.

#50 Posted by Black_Arrow (2554 posts) - - Show Bio

I only do it when i have noway to get it in my country.