#1 Posted by jhazzroucher (14718 posts) - - Show Bio

Mr. Mitt Romney is a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of the Latter-day Saints, or more popularly known as Mormon's church though they're not worshipping Mormon because Mormon is a prophet.

Will his religion help him win?

Well, to think that being a member of the aformentioned church means we're gonna get moral standards, he could probably make America a better place.

So what do you all think?

#2 Posted by King Saturn (223716 posts) - - Show Bio
I don't see how... Mormon is not really like the type of American Protestant Christian belief we have in America... but Romney does have that other factor that people love in their politician...... He's White and The Other Guy is Not. 
#3 Posted by joshmightbe (24437 posts) - - Show Bio

@jhazzroucher: Well if you take into account his "F**K you if you're not rich" policies and happen to be a millionaire or billionaire then sure he'll make this country fine and dandy for you, but if you're in any other tax bracket things are gonna get a lot rougher for you

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#4 Posted by TheSecondOpinion (614 posts) - - Show Bio

What does his religion have to do with his overall agenda? Nothing.  
 
If the man wants to make the economy rise by cutting spending over seas and using that money to circulate here and build more jobs then that has nothing to do with his religious views.

#5 Posted by TheSecondOpinion (614 posts) - - Show Bio
@joshmightbe said:

@jhazzroucher: Well if you take into account his "F**K you if you're not rich" policies and happen to be a millionaire or billionaire then sure he'll make this country fine and dandy for you, but if you're in any other tax bracket things are gonna get a lot rougher for you

Obama is the one raising the taxes and causing more inflation. 
 
Might as well turn the other way and get those taxes cut for the middle class and deflate the spending over seas so we can build the economy back. Haven't you ever realized that a lot if not most of our products are created by other countries? These countries don't make us these products for free. We pay them. 
#6 Posted by ssejllenrad (12847 posts) - - Show Bio

Yeah it is. Cause about 99% of American voters are Mormons.

#7 Posted by TheSecondOpinion (614 posts) - - Show Bio

There were a lot of Mormons that rather have voted for Ron Paul, but that didn't happen..

#8 Posted by InnerVenom123 (29499 posts) - - Show Bio

@TheSecondOpinion said:

What does his religion have to do with his overall agenda? Nothing.

Gonna have to call bullsh*t on that, just a little bit...

Because I'm sure religion has nothing to do with that.

At all.

#9 Posted by PowerHerc (80692 posts) - - Show Bio

His religion will not give him victory.

#10 Posted by nick_hero22 (6707 posts) - - Show Bio

I hope not

#11 Posted by joshmightbe (24437 posts) - - Show Bio

@TheSecondOpinion: Mitt is a big fan of Businesses out sourcing to countries where its okay to pay people a nickle a day. So all those "Job Creators" he wants to help will only be creating jobs outside of America. Also he doesn't want middle class tax cuts, he wants to give tax cuts to people making 6 figure salaries or more while hiking taxes on everyone else. At least Obama is raising everyone's, not just the ones who are already struggling. Obama may not be the best choice but he's way better than Romney.

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#12 Posted by Strafe Prower (11887 posts) - - Show Bio

@King Saturn said:

I don't see how... Mormon is not really like the type of American Protestant Christian belief we have in America... but Romney does have that other factor that people love in their politician...... He's White and The Other Guy is Not.

Unless your McCain :P

#13 Posted by King Saturn (223716 posts) - - Show Bio
@Strafe Prower said:

@King Saturn said:

I don't see how... Mormon is not really like the type of American Protestant Christian belief we have in America... but Romney does have that other factor that people love in their politician...... He's White and The Other Guy is Not.

Unless your McCain :P

good point...
#15 Posted by MasterJohn (2471 posts) - - Show Bio

All I see here is jealous liberals, who hate Rich and Religious people. Mitt Romney's likability, Mitt Romney's heart, and Mitt Romney's political and business experience will help him WIN.

#16 Posted by Project_Worm (3316 posts) - - Show Bio

IMO? Nothing is going to make him win...

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#17 Posted by Glitch_Spawn (17132 posts) - - Show Bio

Mormons are not Christians.

#18 Edited by Glitch_Spawn (17132 posts) - - Show Bio

@MasterJohn said:

All I see here is jealous liberals, who hate Rich and Religious people. Mitt Romney's likability, Mitt Romney's heart, and Mitt Romney's political and business experience will help him WIN.

If you don't like the vine or any of it's users. Get the duck off it. I'm tired of seeing all these agenda filled people who make accounts just to make people mad.

Just duck off.

#19 Posted by k4tzm4n (36115 posts) - - Show Bio
@Glitch_Spawn: That's completely unnecessary.  That user has over 400 posts and plenty have nothing to do with political discussions.  Please edit that post.
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#20 Posted by King Saturn (223716 posts) - - Show Bio
@MasterJohn said:

All I see here is jealous liberals, who hate Rich and Religious people. Mitt Romney's likability, Mitt Romney's heart, and Mitt Romney's political and business experience will help him WIN.

such touching words coming from a conservative... 
#21 Posted by YourNeighborhoodComicGeek (19876 posts) - - Show Bio

I guess it would be an advantage and disadvantage.

Same thing for Obama being an African American.

(I don't know much about politics though)

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#22 Posted by TheSecondOpinion (614 posts) - - Show Bio
@joshmightbe said:

@TheSecondOpinion: Mitt is a big fan of Businesses out sourcing to countries where its okay to pay people a nickle a day. So all those "Job Creators" he wants to help will only be creating jobs outside of America. Also he doesn't want middle class tax cuts, he wants to give tax cuts to people making 6 figure salaries or more while hiking taxes on everyone else. At least Obama is raising everyone's, not just the ones who are already struggling. Obama may not be the best choice but he's way better than Romney.

I honestly didn't want Romney to win the GOP, but he has, and apparently was enlightened by some of the ideas (good ideas) by Ron Paul. 
 
As for the taxes 6 figure salary cuts, "You've been President for 4 years, you've been raising taxes. You're saying I'm going to cut taxes for but in this recession I'm not going to tax anyone." 
  
"The revenue I get,  is by more people working, getting higher pay, paying more taxes. That's how we get growths and balance the budget. But the idea of taxing people more and putting people out of work, you'll never get there. You'll never balance the budget by raising taxes." 
#23 Posted by Nefarious (18337 posts) - - Show Bio

No.

#24 Posted by Necrotic_Lycanthrope (2388 posts) - - Show Bio

Religion being a factor? Please. Religion and Christianity in specifics have been going down the toilet ever since Bush got out. Now it's almost illegal to say anything to support Israel.

#25 Posted by ImmortalOne (3255 posts) - - Show Bio

@joshmightbe said:

@jhazzroucher: Well if you take into account his "F**K you if you're not rich" policies and happen to be a millionaire or billionaire then sure he'll make this country fine and dandy for you, but if you're in any other tax bracket things are gonna get a lot rougher for you

Not to mention the fact that he switches through his "point of view" on subjects like clothes. Every new state he goes to, he just says what they want to hear, and now he's winning.

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#26 Posted by SuperTide (15600 posts) - - Show Bio

no

#27 Posted by WillPayton (9032 posts) - - Show Bio

@ImmortalOne said:

@joshmightbe said:

@jhazzroucher: Well if you take into account his "F**K you if you're not rich" policies and happen to be a millionaire or billionaire then sure he'll make this country fine and dandy for you, but if you're in any other tax bracket things are gonna get a lot rougher for you

Not to mention the fact that he switches through his "point of view" on subjects like clothes. Every new state he goes to, he just says what they want to hear, and now he's winning.

I posted this in another thread, but it seemed appropriate here because it came up. This is one of the main problems with Romney, and actually why many Republicans dont like him. It's easy to find quotes from Republicans during the primaries saying how they hate him and how they will lose if he runs. The guy will say anything to win, because that's his only goal. He doesnt really care if he's pro or against any issue, he'll take whatever stance will get him votes.

#28 Posted by OneDoesNotSimplyWalkIntoMordor (117 posts) - - Show Bio
@WillPayton said:

@ImmortalOne said:

@joshmightbe said:

@jhazzroucher: Well if you take into account his "F**K you if you're not rich" policies and happen to be a millionaire or billionaire then sure he'll make this country fine and dandy for you, but if you're in any other tax bracket things are gonna get a lot rougher for you

Not to mention the fact that he switches through his "point of view" on subjects like clothes. Every new state he goes to, he just says what they want to hear, and now he's winning.

I posted this in another thread, but it seemed appropriate here because it came up. This is one of the main problems with Romney, and actually why many Republicans dont like him. It's easy to find quotes from Republicans during the primaries saying how they hate him and how they will lose if he runs. The guy will say anything to win, because that's his only goal. He doesnt really care if he's pro or against any issue, he'll take whatever stance will get him votes.

One does not simply see that Romney is a DC character? 
 
 
 
#29 Posted by nick_hero22 (6707 posts) - - Show Bio

@Glitch_Spawn said:

@MasterJohn said:

All I see here is jealous liberals, who hate Rich and Religious people. Mitt Romney's likability, Mitt Romney's heart, and Mitt Romney's political and business experience will help him WIN.

If you don't like the vine or any of it's users. Get the duck off it. I'm tired of seeing all these agenda filled people who make accounts just to make people mad.

Just duck off.

I agree and Romney loses

#30 Posted by MasterJohn (2471 posts) - - Show Bio

@Glitch_Spawn said:

@MasterJohn said:

All I see here is jealous liberals, who hate Rich and Religious people. Mitt Romney's likability, Mitt Romney's heart, and Mitt Romney's political and business experience will help him WIN.

If you don't like the vine or any of it's users. Get the duck off it. I'm tired of seeing all these agenda filled people who make accounts just to make people mad.

Just duck off.

Oh I love the Vine, and I love it's users. I just don't like the ideology of the Liberals on the vine, who discourage success and blame the Rich for the problems of America.

#31 Posted by WillPayton (9032 posts) - - Show Bio

@MasterJohn said:

Oh I love the Vine, and I love it's users. I just don't like the ideology of the Liberals on the vine, who discourage success and blame the Rich for the problems of America.

No one here is blaming the rich for anything. Maybe one day you'll learn to use your brain instead of just regurgitating the talking points you get on Fox News. Stop being a mindless drone, it's pathetic.

#32 Posted by MasterJohn (2471 posts) - - Show Bio

@WillPayton said:

@MasterJohn said:

Oh I love the Vine, and I love it's users. I just don't like the ideology of the Liberals on the vine, who discourage success and blame the Rich for the problems of America.

No one here is blaming the rich for anything. Maybe one day you'll learn to use your brain instead of just regurgitating the talking points you get on Fox News. Stop being a mindless drone, it's pathetic.

I like 2 shows on Fox. O'reily and Hannity. My normal news is CNN, which I have to turn off most of the time because they are so liberally biased.

#33 Posted by Perfect Cell (3470 posts) - - Show Bio
@MasterJohn said:

@WillPayton said:

@MasterJohn said:

Oh I love the Vine, and I love it's users. I just don't like the ideology of the Liberals on the vine, who discourage success and blame the Rich for the problems of America.

No one here is blaming the rich for anything. Maybe one day you'll learn to use your brain instead of just regurgitating the talking points you get on Fox News. Stop being a mindless drone, it's pathetic.

I like 2 shows on Fox. O'reily and Hannity. My normal news is CNN, which I have to turn off most of the time because they are so liberally biased.

O'Really???
#34 Posted by MasterJohn (2471 posts) - - Show Bio

@Perfect Cell said:

@MasterJohn said:

@WillPayton said:

@MasterJohn said:

Oh I love the Vine, and I love it's users. I just don't like the ideology of the Liberals on the vine, who discourage success and blame the Rich for the problems of America.

No one here is blaming the rich for anything. Maybe one day you'll learn to use your brain instead of just regurgitating the talking points you get on Fox News. Stop being a mindless drone, it's pathetic.

I like 2 shows on Fox. O'reily and Hannity. My normal news is CNN, which I have to turn off most of the time because they are so liberally biased.

O'Really???

Yes, and Liberals love Moring joe, and Martin Bashir.

#35 Posted by sesquipedalophobe (4689 posts) - - Show Bio

@MasterJohn said:

@WillPayton said:

@MasterJohn said:

Oh I love the Vine, and I love it's users. I just don't like the ideology of the Liberals on the vine, who discourage success and blame the Rich for the problems of America.

No one here is blaming the rich for anything. Maybe one day you'll learn to use your brain instead of just regurgitating the talking points you get on Fox News. Stop being a mindless drone, it's pathetic.

I like 2 shows on Fox. O'reily and Hannity. My normal news is CNN, which I have to turn off most of the time because they are so liberally biased.

Ignore the bias and change channels frequently. I hope this helps.

#36 Posted by Perfect Cell (3470 posts) - - Show Bio

I use the news to observe information, but not absorb it to my decisions. In other words, I don't allow the news to brain wash me.

#37 Posted by WillPayton (9032 posts) - - Show Bio

@MasterJohn said:

@WillPayton said:

@MasterJohn said:

Oh I love the Vine, and I love it's users. I just don't like the ideology of the Liberals on the vine, who discourage success and blame the Rich for the problems of America.

No one here is blaming the rich for anything. Maybe one day you'll learn to use your brain instead of just regurgitating the talking points you get on Fox News. Stop being a mindless drone, it's pathetic.

I like 2 shows on Fox. O'reily and Hannity. My normal news is CNN, which I have to turn off most of the time because they are so liberally biased.

If you like O'Reilly and Hannity then that explains a lot. Hannity is the worst show there is on that Republican propaganda network. I cant even stand to watch that guy without wanting to punch his face in.

CNN is not liberal, if anything their problem is that they try too hard to be "objective", which results in them giving people too much slack on the bullshit they say. You probably think NPR is also liberal, and that Fox is actually "fair and balanced"... am I right?

#38 Posted by _Zombie_ (10297 posts) - - Show Bio

If anything, his religion is going to work against him. Most people consider Mormons to be complete nuts.

#39 Posted by MasterJohn (2471 posts) - - Show Bio

@WillPayton said:

@MasterJohn said:

@WillPayton said:

@MasterJohn said:

Oh I love the Vine, and I love it's users. I just don't like the ideology of the Liberals on the vine, who discourage success and blame the Rich for the problems of America.

No one here is blaming the rich for anything. Maybe one day you'll learn to use your brain instead of just regurgitating the talking points you get on Fox News. Stop being a mindless drone, it's pathetic.

I like 2 shows on Fox. O'reily and Hannity. My normal news is CNN, which I have to turn off most of the time because they are so liberally biased.

If you like O'Reilly and Hannity then that explains a lot. Hannity is the worst show there is on that Republican propaganda network. I cant even stand to watch that guy without wanting to punch his face in.

CNN is not liberal, if anything their problem is that they try too hard to be "objective", which results in them giving people too much slack on the bullshit they say. You probably think NPR is also liberal, and that Fox is actually "fair and balanced"... am I right?

You won't get to punch his face you Loon. Geesh, there is just so much violence in the World.

Wolf Blitzer, Anderson Cooper, and Erin Burnett are liberal. But, they do not compare to the Far left Communist Martin Bashir. Martin is just a disgrace to the Constitution. The NPR executive, Gary Knell is very liberal. Very, very, liberal. I don't know if the NPR themselves are. Fox is not fair and balanced, just as CNN is not, MSNBC is not. What other news is there? I don't want to watch that NUT Alex Jones.

Enough said.

#40 Posted by WillPayton (9032 posts) - - Show Bio

@MasterJohn said:

@WillPayton said:

@MasterJohn said:

@WillPayton said:

@MasterJohn said:

Oh I love the Vine, and I love it's users. I just don't like the ideology of the Liberals on the vine, who discourage success and blame the Rich for the problems of America.

No one here is blaming the rich for anything. Maybe one day you'll learn to use your brain instead of just regurgitating the talking points you get on Fox News. Stop being a mindless drone, it's pathetic.

I like 2 shows on Fox. O'reily and Hannity. My normal news is CNN, which I have to turn off most of the time because they are so liberally biased.

If you like O'Reilly and Hannity then that explains a lot. Hannity is the worst show there is on that Republican propaganda network. I cant even stand to watch that guy without wanting to punch his face in.

CNN is not liberal, if anything their problem is that they try too hard to be "objective", which results in them giving people too much slack on the bullshit they say. You probably think NPR is also liberal, and that Fox is actually "fair and balanced"... am I right?

You won't get to punch his face you Loon. Geesh, there is just so much violence in the World.

Wolf Blitzer, Anderson Cooper, and Erin Burnett are liberal. But, they do not compare to the Far left Communist Martin Bashir. Martin is just a disgrace to the Constitution. The NPR executive, Gary Knell is very liberal. Very, very, liberal. I don't know if the NPR themselves are. Fox is not fair and balanced, just as CNN is not, MSNBC is not. What other news is there? I don't want to watch that NUT Alex Jones.

Sorry, not going to bother watching the videos because Alex Jones is an idiot and a nut.

There's plenty of news out there. How about Reuters or BBC. Please do yourself a favor and stop watching Fox, or at least watch it realizing it's almost all propaganda and hatred against Obama and the Democrats. I'm actually shocked if I ever see anything on that network that isnt horribly biased, one-sides, or just plain lies. Yes, MSNBC is a liberal network, but they're not as far-left as Fox News is far-right. That's because MSNBC at least tries to be a news network, while Fox News is just propaganda with an agenda.

#41 Posted by mrdecepticonleader (17498 posts) - - Show Bio
#42 Posted by Stevens61310 (181 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't think he wins at all. And not because of his religion. I think that he has gone back and forth on so many issues that by the time the election rolls around most will be onto his chameleon-like campaigning.

Having said that my father-in-law who is a dyed in the wool give me my guns and Bible Republican, lives in a rock solid Bible belt Red State, and can't tolerate Obama is voting for Obama. Because in his mind next to Mitt Romney--Obama is a rock solid choice for President. Romney--well isn't.

#43 Posted by VanTesla (518 posts) - - Show Bio

I think his religion will hurt him more than help him for many protestant, chatholic, and black people that have read the book of Mormon... My reason for believing this is many of the other major christian orginizations like the Catholic and Protestant don't believe Mormons to be part of the christian group and usually look at them as liars of twisting Jesus and etc. Heck it took ages for a Catholic person to be president for the Protestant push back and both of them would rather have one of them instead of a Mormon. If you read the book of Mormon then you know why a black person would on average not vote for one... I have nothing against Mormons and there have been many great people that are Mormons, but for those more extreme religious or anti-religious groups they will not vote for him most likely.

#44 Posted by jhazzroucher (14718 posts) - - Show Bio

@Glitch_Spawn said:

Mormons are not Christians.

they're also Christians.

#45 Posted by Glitch_Spawn (17132 posts) - - Show Bio

@jhazzroucher said:

@Glitch_Spawn said:

Mormons are not Christians.

they're also Christians.

No they aren't.

#46 Posted by protectyournose (908 posts) - - Show Bio

The Church of Jesus Christ is the most common religion in the USA

So yes it should help him win definitly:)

#47 Posted by Supreme Marvel (11264 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't give a crap about someone's religion.

This is what I care to know. He is not a nice man.

#48 Posted by Swagger462 (374 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm not sure if this still applies but during the early days of the 2008 election this points to the answer. I know polls aren't great as evidence, especially one that stands alone but it's a ballpark indication I think.

#49 Posted by Magethor (1054 posts) - - Show Bio

Posting this to push the "football spam" threads to the second forum page since they don't need to be on the 1st page.