@TheThe said:
@JohnnyGat said:
@TheThe said:
what about Charice, apl.de.ap from the black eyed peas and Nicole Scherzinger from the Pussycat Dolls ?Maybe they dont count because they are americans from filipino descent...I dont know. Anyway, my favorite is Billy Crawford :D
Most famous.
Apl.de.ap alone isn't as famous as Pacquiao. Apl's fame is as one of the least recognizable of the BEP. Nicole maybe a good singer but the problem with the popularity of pop musicians is that they're only as good as the number of hits they make and the competition they are currently facing. Compare the popularity of Scherzinger with Lady Gaga or Katy Perry and she just seems insignificant and forgotten. The same could be said of Charice considering she has chosen to go more of a pop route and even if she stuck with what got her famous that genre isn't really pop culture material. And I don't even know who Billy Crawford is.
Pacquiao on the other hand is at the top area of his field. He's racking up accolades more people know him. More people acknowledge him. The constant need for the masses to see a Pacquiao Mayweather fight keeps his status in his field interesting as opposed to pop musicians who needs a stream of hits to stay relevant.
We are talking to a world level status. I think Nicole Scherzinger (she is a jury in TV shows outside the US) and Apl.de.ap got more exposure than Manny, because Pop music is more mainstream than boxing and because Manny is not a superstar outside his sports. Of course the top fighters are well known, but Manny nore Floyd are Tyson and Ali. Those two were cultural phenomenons.
In the other hand, everybody knows at least Nicole and Apl.de.ap faces. I wont say the same for Manny of Floyd. But i give you Apl.de.ap name (or nickname) isnt that known because he's not Fergie or Will.i.am. According to me on global level Nicole Scherzinger is as famous as Manny, maybe even more.
Ps: Billy Crawford is mostably known in Europe, particularly in France. In the early noughties he was- alone - the equivalent of N'sync here .
But the problem I'm pointing out is Manny has and will be more famous in the long run. The reason is basically the fields they are in. Pop music is more world recognizable yes but as I said before her lasting popularity is totally dependent on the amount of hits she makes and the amount of hits her competition makes and how they compare. I mean off the top of my head when I think of pop superstars Michael Jackson will always come out on top though he wasn't the only one to have hits during his peak most of MJ's competition tends to be overshadowed and forgotten. MJ will be remembered as one of the best of all time. Likewise in sports even if Pac and Mayweather cannot compare with Tyson or Ali with the accolades they have gained both are shoe in to be immortalized in whatever boxing hall of fame there is should no controversy that would tarnish their image (any more than it has) pop out.
Plus the problem with Nicole is that whenever I see people who aren't really into pop culture see her they don't say hey look it's Nicole, they say hey it's that chick from the Pussy Cat Dolls. I guess it all comes down to perspectives on what counts as "fame". Obviously we have differing views on it, I'm not saying you're wrong you could very well be more correct than me but I still disagree mainly because as I said before we probably just have different views on how we judge a person's fame.
To me the real mark of fame is the mark you leave in the field you're in and the individuality that they can represent.
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