Is it unusual that I'm bi and can't stand LGBT pride?

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Every time I see that rainbow flag I just...

Ugh.

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@racob7: Maybe you should be more tolerant?

You're just ambivalent to it all because you haven't faced any of the struggles that still plagues the LGBT community to this day.

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uh, I'm not a rainbow flag waving, gay pride parade attending sort of guy, but I don't see what is so bad about some people waving a flag around and having a parade every once and a while, doesn't bother me much so live and let live. Care to elaborate on your reason for not being able to stand LGBT pride?

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No. A lot of people can't stand it.

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Eh, I'm not a supporter, but let them do what they please. cuz, you know, America.

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Rainbows are awesome. Especially rainbows in the dark.

If you're annoyed by something, not a big deal. You're allowed to be, that's a very basic freedom.

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What's wrong with LGBT pride?

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@racob7: What is it about this that you can't stand?

Look at how annoying my mom and I are being...
Look at how annoying my mom and I are being...
A rainbow!? UGH!
A rainbow!? UGH!

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@jaken7: My problem with it is that they're acting as if being LGB or T makes you special or that you deserve some kind of respect for it. I don't see sexuality as something to be proud or ashamed of, it's just how you're born. If I had my way, there would be no unfair stereotypes and no unearned respect either.

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@racob7 said:

@jaken7: My problem with it is that they're acting as if being LGB or T makes you special or that you deserve some kind of respect for it. I don't see sexuality as something to be proud or ashamed of, it's just how you're born. If I had my way, there would be no unfair stereotypes and no unearned respect either.

You're not wrong. It's not something to be proud of per se. But it's more of a "don't be ashamed" thought process. You are who you are.

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I'm trans and gay, I don't need no parade ^-^

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@racob7 said:

@jaken7: My problem with it is that they're acting as if being LGB or T makes you special or that you deserve some kind of respect for it. I don't see sexuality as something to be proud or ashamed of, it's just how you're born. If I had my way, there would be no unfair stereotypes and no unearned respect either.

You've grown up in a very privileged environment in a modern time then. We aren't acting like we're special, we're just fed up with hiding and being treated as inferior. We want equal rights.

Do you think African Americans were acting like they were "special" when they marched on Washington? Or when they have Black History Month?

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@racob7 said:

@greatcaesarsghost: I just don't understand why it's such a big deal.

Because we deserve equal rights!

I don't understand why that's such a hard concept for you to grasp.

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I'm black and I can't stand black history month, so I know where you're coming from.

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#17  Edited By Oscuro

As far as I'm concerned everyone can do what or who they please. None of my business to begin with. Whatever affiliation or orientation they have is fine in my book. Do your thing and I'll do my thing.

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@jayc1324 said:

No. A lot of people can't stand it.

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#19  Edited By Darling_Luna

@jaken7: Get out of here straightie !

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@jaken7: Get out of here straightie !

You of all people know that that's factually incorrect. :/

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@jayc1324 said:

No. A lot of people can't stand it.

I'm black and I can't stand black history month, so I know where you're coming from.

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#22  Edited By Darling_Luna

@jaken7: And you know not to take anything I say seriously ^-^

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@jaken7: Get out of here Gene junk, no more mutants !

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@jaken7 said:

@racob7: Maybe you should be more tolerant?

You're just ambivalent to it all because you haven't faced any of the struggles that still plagues the LGBT community to this day.

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#30  Edited By ShadowX

Originally pride wasn't a parade it was a march, it was a riot. The nyc pride parade traces its roots to the stonewall riots of the 60's, where trans women, homeless queers, queer people of color, the disenfranchised of the disenfranchised. The people considered ro be the lowest common denominator and faced multiple axies of opression decided they were going to fight back. Pride doesn't come from pride in your sexuality but rather a resistance to the struggles that we faced as sexual minorities, it was a need of survival. My main problem with modern day lgbt events is that they are often "pinkwashed" and the focus is on cis, white gay men and so called "allies." Ignorin the roots of the movement and the people that started it all like Marsha P Johnson and Sylvia Rivera. But even with those flaws, I still enjoy pride and think abou it in a historical context. Because as a queer latina trans women I do face those multiple axies of opression .

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Hardcore supporters can be a bit annoying at times.

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@racob7 said:

@jaken7: My problem with it is that they're acting as if being LGB or T makes you special or that you deserve some kind of respect for it. I don't see sexuality as something to be proud or ashamed of, it's just how you're born. If I had my way, there would be no unfair stereotypes and no unearned respect either.

You're not wrong. It's not something to be proud of per se. But it's more of a "don't be ashamed" thought process. You are who you are.

This. But I would like to add that the pride comes from accepting who you are and refusing to be ashamed. There is pride to be had for resisting prejudice.

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@shadowx said:

Originally. pride wasn't a parade. It was a march, it was a riot. The NYC Pride Parade traces its roots to the Stonewall Riots of the 60's, where transwomen, homeless queers, queer people of color, were the disenfranchised of the disenfranchised. The people considered to be the lowest common denominator and faced multiple axis of oppression decided they were going to fight back. Pride doesn't come from pride in your sexuality but rather a resistance to the struggles that we faced as sexual minorities, it was a need of survival. My main problem with modern day LGBT events is that they are often "pinkwashed" and the focus is on cis, white gay men and so called "allies," ignoring the roots of the movement and the people that started it all like Marsha P Johnson and Sylvia Rivera. However, even with those flaws, I still enjoy pride and think about it in a historical context. Because as a queer latina transwoman I do face those multiple axis of oppression.

All the this.

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I feel like Key and Peele's "Office Homophobe" bit applies here.

I don't even know where they got that stereotype tbh. I've never seen a gay man act even close to that.

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@racob7: What is it about this that you can't stand?

Look at how annoying my mom and I are being...
Look at how annoying my mom and I are being...

To be fair your mom does look rather annoying.

I'm black and I can't stand black history month, so I know where you're coming from.

LOL! Why?

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@jaken7 said:

@racob7: What is it about this that you can't stand?

To be fair your mom does look rather annoying.

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I feel like Key and Peele's "Office Homophobe" bit applies here.

Just had to go and watch. Pretty hilarious and, in many cases, pretty valid.

Obviously, coming from someone super gay.

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@jaken7 said:

@jonez120 said:

@jaken7 said:

@racob7: What is it about this that you can't stand?

To be fair your mom does look rather annoying.

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The latter

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@racob7 said:

@jaken7: My problem with it is that they're acting as if being LGB or T makes you special or that you deserve some kind of respect for it. I don't see sexuality as something to be proud or ashamed of, it's just how you're born. If I had my way, there would be no unfair stereotypes and no unearned respect either.

Yeah, that's incredibly idealistic. It's incredibly unlikely (in fact I think it's impossible) that a society will exist where that's actually a thing. Prejudice, stereotypes and all those negative things are all a part of a functioning society, and while I'm not saying they're good or even necessary they're just kind of...always there.

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@jaken7 said:

@racob7: What is it about this that you can't stand?

Look at how annoying my mom and I are being...
Look at how annoying my mom and I are being...
A rainbow!? UGH!
A rainbow!? UGH!

You look like John Campea. Have you ever heard of him? The Amc movie, YouTube guy?

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@racob7 said:

@jaken7: My problem with it is that they're acting as if being LGB or T makes you special or that you deserve some kind of respect for it. I don't see sexuality as something to be proud or ashamed of, it's just how you're born. If I had my way, there would be no unfair stereotypes and no unearned respect either.

Yeah, that's incredibly idealistic. It's incredibly unlikely (in fact I think it's impossible) that a society will exist where that's actually a thing. Prejudice, stereotypes and all those negative things are all a part of a functioning society, and while I'm not saying they're good or even necessary they're just kind of...always there.

There have been plenty of ancient civilizations where homosexuality was openly practiced and was not a taboo.

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@squares said:

@racob7 said:

@jaken7: My problem with it is that they're acting as if being LGB or T makes you special or that you deserve some kind of respect for it. I don't see sexuality as something to be proud or ashamed of, it's just how you're born. If I had my way, there would be no unfair stereotypes and no unearned respect either.

Yeah, that's incredibly idealistic. It's incredibly unlikely (in fact I think it's impossible) that a society will exist where that's actually a thing. Prejudice, stereotypes and all those negative things are all a part of a functioning society, and while I'm not saying they're good or even necessary they're just kind of...always there.

There have been plenty of ancient civilizations where homosexuality was openly practiced and was not a taboo.

Yeah but they got all their aggression out raping and butchering the bordering civilizations.