#1 Posted by 7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning (3575 posts) - - Show Bio
#2 Posted by Xanni15 (6758 posts) - - Show Bio

Ryan made it easy for him, not being able to answer any questions. I loved that Biden mocked him by laughing.

#3 Posted by Necrotic_Lycanthrope (2388 posts) - - Show Bio

I saw the first 20 minutes. It wasn't so much destroying as that Biden was 3 seconds away from blowing a gasket. Why is he acting so desperate? For crying out loud, I bet he stares at Obama everyday with hate for getting the presidency before him.

#4 Posted by Blood1991 (8082 posts) - - Show Bio

@Xanni15 said:

Ryan made it easy for him, not being able to answer any questions. I loved that Biden mocked him by laughing.

Lol same, though it was rude I couldn't help, but laugh along with him. Very few Democrats have his backbone, so I always listen closely to what Biden has to say.

#5 Posted by Living_Monstrosity (435 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't think Biden's demeanor helped him. The constant smirking and laughing just made him look like a condescending douche the whole time, whereas Ryan's calm and collected attitude could have more appeal with swing voters. I disagree and agree with certain positions held by both, but Biden was being over aggressive - perhaps to make up for Obama's poor debate performance last week or he's just a dick in real life.

Anyway fact checkers show that both of them lied and misled people constantly in the debate.

#6 Posted by HBKTimHBK (5293 posts) - - Show Bio

It didn't help, in fact he looked like an overconfident, rude man as Ryan condescendingly smiled at him..while not interrupting.

#7 Posted by King Saturn (225088 posts) - - Show Bio
Joe Biden did pretty good IMO... but I know all the conservatives will say how rude Biden was... and all the liberals will say how bad Biden destroyed Ryan... this politics sh!t is a joke. 
#8 Posted by _Sojourn_ (19324 posts) - - Show Bio

Biden did destroy him. Truthfully, I watched all the body language. And Ryan was clench jawed, and was swallowing harder and more than a hooker in a dark ally. He looked flushed and nervous at times.

#9 Posted by nick_hero22 (7232 posts) - - Show Bio

Biden took him to the wood shed

#10 Posted by Living_Monstrosity (435 posts) - - Show Bio

Both lied like hell, Biden was just more aggressive. But I don't consider acting pompous and snarky a "destroying" on Biden's part. It's just Biden being a dick. Anyway Biden's win will come out to nothing if Obama is just as bad in the next debate against Romney as he was in the first one.

#11 Posted by kuonphobos (4904 posts) - - Show Bio

If I were on the fence, Biden's disrespectful and tactless behavior would helped me make up my mind. The debate format was not conducive to communication and the moderator was totally powerless, although she did ask some very good questions.

Folks demand that Ryan give specifics then don't give him the time to do so. He seems more than willing. First off, I wouldn't want to watch paint dry or listen to economic minutia. But would if I could because it is important, but it certainly doesn't make for great television.

All this stuff is political American Idol.

#12 Posted by YourNeighborhoodComicGeek (20443 posts) - - Show Bio

People said Romney was rude for interrupting the host and Obama, so I guess they made Biden more aggressive and rude against Paul Ryan.

#13 Posted by nick_hero22 (7232 posts) - - Show Bio

@Living_Monstrosity said:

Both lied like hell, Biden was just more aggressive. But I don't consider acting pompous and snarky a "destroying" on Biden's part. It's just Biden being a dick. Anyway Biden's win will come out to nothing if Obama is just as bad in the next debate against Romney as he was in the first one.

If you take a look at fact checkers Biden was much more honest compared to Ryan.

#14 Posted by Living_Monstrosity (435 posts) - - Show Bio

@nick_hero22 said:

@Living_Monstrosity said:

Both lied like hell, Biden was just more aggressive. But I don't consider acting pompous and snarky a "destroying" on Biden's part. It's just Biden being a dick. Anyway Biden's win will come out to nothing if Obama is just as bad in the next debate against Romney as he was in the first one.

If you take a look at fact checkers Biden was much more honest compared to Ryan.

Depends on which fact checker you look at. Both lied and told half-truths throughout the entire debate.

#15 Posted by kuonphobos (4904 posts) - - Show Bio

@Living_Monstrosity said:

@nick_hero22 said:

@Living_Monstrosity said:

Both lied like hell, Biden was just more aggressive. But I don't consider acting pompous and snarky a "destroying" on Biden's part. It's just Biden being a dick. Anyway Biden's win will come out to nothing if Obama is just as bad in the next debate against Romney as he was in the first one.

If you take a look at fact checkers Biden was much more honest compared to Ryan.

Depends on which fact checker you look at. Both lied and told half-truths throughout the entire debate.

So true. Who watches the Watchmen!

#16 Posted by TheMinister (1131 posts) - - Show Bio

If the president were to die, I could see neither of them leading this country. Biden is an arrogant prick. Ryan is young and seems inexperienced, of course.

#17 Posted by Vance Astro (91403 posts) - - Show Bio

Biden> Existence

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#18 Posted by Living_Monstrosity (435 posts) - - Show Bio

If Biden acted like he did tonight in the debate against Sarah Palin in 2008, I bet she would have started crying from his rudeness.

#19 Posted by kuonphobos (4904 posts) - - Show Bio

I wish we could have a televised event (I realize it would no longer be a "debate") where the candy-dates were only able to state their position and not be allowed to deflect to a straw man version of the other's position. Then they could take turns dismantling the other's statements. Kinda like:

Candy-date A: "We believe blah, blah,blah..."

Candy-date B: "Here is why we believe that that will not work."

Candy-date A: "Here is my criticism of that/those responses"

etc

Instead we get:

Candy-ass A: "You said you would kill all the cross-eyed babies"

Candy-ass B : "Well the last time your party was in power it voted to have babies with hair lips be forced to blow air through kazoos which were rigged with wet reeds."

Candy-ass A: "Don't be ridiculous. You know that your policies would completely deprive schools of their ability to have music programs"

etc.

#20 Posted by daredevil21134 (12622 posts) - - Show Bio

Biden was epic lol

#21 Posted by Grand Ninja (2302 posts) - - Show Bio

@kuonphobos said:

I wish we could have a televised event (I realize it would no longer be a "debate") where the candy-dates were only able to state their position and not be allowed to deflect to a straw man version of the other's position. Then they could take turns dismantling the other's statements. Kinda like:

Candy-date A: "We believe blah, blah,blah..."

Candy-date B: "Here is why we believe that that will not work."

Candy-date A: "Here is my criticism of that/those responses"

etc

Instead we get:

Candy-ass A: "You said you would kill all the cross-eyed babies"

Candy-ass B : "Well the last time your party was in power it voted to have babies with hair lips be forced to blow air through kazoos which were rigged with wet reeds."

Candy-ass A: "Don't be ridiculous. You know that your policies would completely deprive schools of their ability to have music programs"

etc.

I agree. the debates are gets off topic about people's preferences rather than the main issues at hand. Economy and border defense should be the number one issue, but instead, the candidates are talking about religion, gay rights, animal rights, race, what males want and what females want which then over shadows the real problems of today's living. Keep the personal preferences to the states to handle, not the Feds. In fact, the Presidentual debates use those trivial topics to gain votes, but they do like its the only thing to convince the people. Doing that will only separate the people up into categories and that's completely the opposite of the American way. Keep the people together through well-being and well living; Not person preferences.

#22 Posted by minigunman123 (3116 posts) - - Show Bio

I thought Biden was a failure and an ass, and Ryan was pretty cool.

I'm pretty astonished at the ratio of liberals to conservatives on this site lol. I must be the minority here!

#23 Posted by utotheg38 (18861 posts) - - Show Bio

@Living_Monstrosity said:

@nick_hero22 said:

@Living_Monstrosity said:

Both lied like hell, Biden was just more aggressive. But I don't consider acting pompous and snarky a "destroying" on Biden's part. It's just Biden being a dick. Anyway Biden's win will come out to nothing if Obama is just as bad in the next debate against Romney as he was in the first one.

If you take a look at fact checkers Biden was much more honest compared to Ryan.

Depends on which fact checker you look at. Both lied and told half-truths throughout the entire debate.

LMAO

Thank You, People are so idiotic when they're being biased.

#24 Posted by nick_hero22 (7232 posts) - - Show Bio

@utotheg38 said:

@Living_Monstrosity said:

@nick_hero22 said:

@Living_Monstrosity said:

Both lied like hell, Biden was just more aggressive. But I don't consider acting pompous and snarky a "destroying" on Biden's part. It's just Biden being a dick. Anyway Biden's win will come out to nothing if Obama is just as bad in the next debate against Romney as he was in the first one.

If you take a look at fact checkers Biden was much more honest compared to Ryan.

Depends on which fact checker you look at. Both lied and told half-truths throughout the entire debate.

LMAO

Thank You, People are so idiotic when they're being biased.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2012/10/11/vice-presidential-debate-fact-check/1628435/

#25 Posted by Nefarious (22888 posts) - - Show Bio

It sure seems that way. 

#26 Posted by VercingetorixTheGreat (2823 posts) - - Show Bio

If by destroyed you mean acted like an asshole.

#27 Posted by IfDCRuledTheWorld (673 posts) - - Show Bio

Destroying...no. They both did well for their base and that's all. Biden was more aggressive and had actual experience on just about every topic that was brought up, but whatever he gained from that he lost due to his bad body language, smirking, laughing, etc.... I don't think independent voters liked that. Ryan, while calm and collected, brought little specifics on what he or Romney would do. So...it was a draw.

#28 Posted by SuperTide (15578 posts) - - Show Bio

biden looked and acted like a buffoon.

#29 Posted by Manwhohaseverything (2095 posts) - - Show Bio

Well, most people have their minds made up how these debates are going to go before they even watch them. So individual opinions about how they went are useless. The nation as a whole, (which actually means something) I saw two polls..One said Ryan won 49-44% one said Biden won 51-39%. Based on that scoring, I'd say Biden won, but it's not a woodshed by any means. In someone's mind it may have been a whooping one way or the other, but the reality is, it was basically a draw. FWIW: I'm not voting for either guy. I think Obama has been horrible, but have no faith Romney would be any better.

#30 Posted by OmegaDynasty (9199 posts) - - Show Bio
#31 Posted by WillPayton (9818 posts) - - Show Bio

I wouldnt say Biden destroyed Ryan, but I think he decisively won the debate.

At one point Ryan was getting his butt kicked by the moderator... which was hilarious. That's pretty much how you know you lost a debate, when even at times the moderator is stomping you. =)

#32 Posted by BatWatch (3018 posts) - - Show Bio

I believe that the debates have been accurate reflections of the candidates thus far. Beyond that, people see what they want to see. The only peoe whose opinions matter in these things is the independents. The rest are just rooting for their side.

#33 Posted by Living_Monstrosity (435 posts) - - Show Bio
#34 Posted by Magethor (1054 posts) - - Show Bio