Is hiphop the biggest genre In music?

@pooty said:

@utotheg38: so before you made this thread, did you think that Hiphop was the biggest in terms of sales? Or did you mean biggest as in most influential? In terms of sales I think hip hop is top 5. but in terms of influence top 2 for sure.

Influence, I've seen people In japan break dancing and listening to rakims "Dont sweat the technique"

F*ck that n!gga talking about Africa.

I mean that nick dude. Or whoever he is saying "most of Africa this" and "most of Africa that."

@CozyDaPrynce said:

F*ck that n!gga talking about Africa.

LMAO

Unfortunately, yes it is at this current time.

But if you're talking about Music in general in terms of X amount of records sold and X amount of fans throughout time, I would have to say 60's-80's soft/glam/hard/ rock and metal.

PS The definition of POP is popular. Drake, Little Wayne, Nas.... = POP

@utotheg38: In influence hip hop is second to pop.

@NlGHTCRAWLER said:

Unfortunately, yes it is at this current time.

But if you're talking about Music in general in terms of X amount of records sold and X amount of fans throughout time, I would have to say 60's-80's soft/glam/hard/ rock and metal.

PS The definition of POP is popular. Drake, Little Wayne, Nas.... = POP

True.

Night crawler ftw.

It definitely one of the biggest genre of music, but Rock is still alot bigger.

@TERMINATORXX said:

Rap is Crap compared to Rock that Rocks!

I like apples and I like oranges.

@CozyDaPrynce said:

F*ck that n!gga talking about Africa.

Are you talking about me ? I hope you're not, cause you know you're not the only one who can be rude, i bet.

Hip-Hop, Pop & Rock

SMH ... Gay guy thought I was talking to him. Lol ....

Hip Hop isn't a genre in music. Hip Hop is a whole culture in which Rap is just a fracking part of it.

No.

At this point, Pop is.

Cant believe this thread Is still around.

@CozyDaPrynce said:

SMH ... Gay guy thought I was talking to him. Lol ....

Wtf?

@BiteMe-Fanboy said:

@CozyDaPrynce said:

SMH ... Gay guy thought I was talking to him. Lol ....

Wtf?

Talking about TheThe

LOL

@utotheg38

Yes, I know. But that's pretty uncalled for.

@BiteMe-Fanboy said:

@utotheg38

Yes, I know. But that's pretty uncalled for.

How so?

Its not like he called him the f word.

@utotheg38 said:

@BiteMe-Fanboy said:

@utotheg38

Yes, I know. But that's pretty uncalled for.

How so?

Its not like he called him the f word.

TheThe was thinking Cozy was talking about him with the whole 'F*ck the n*gga talking about africa' thing, and in response Cozy says 'GAY GUY thinks i'm talking about him'... You don't see that as being offensive at all? Lol.. I'm not about to make a big deal out of it, I'm just like wtf?

@BiteMe-Fanboy said:

@utotheg38 said:

@BiteMe-Fanboy said:

@utotheg38

Yes, I know. But that's pretty uncalled for.

How so?

Its not like he called him the f word.

TheThe was thinking Cozy was talking about him with the whole 'F*ck the n*gga talking about africa' thing, and in response Cozy says 'GAY GUY thinks i'm talking about him'... You don't see that as being offensive at all? Lol.. I'm not about to make a big deal out of it, I'm just like wtf?

I'm pretty sure he came out of the closet, Didn't he?

@utotheg38: @CozyDaPrynce:@BiteMe-Fanboy: It's still using the term in a derogatory way and meant to be offensive. Please try to avoid remarks like that.

Ignoring preference Pop music is the most Popular.

@k4tzm4n said:

@utotheg38: @CozyDaPrynce:@BiteMe-Fanboy: It's still using the term in a derogatory way and meant to be offensive. Please try to avoid remarks like that.

So when people say "Hey, Its that black guy" Its using it in a derogatory way?

When does It end?

@utotheg38

I'm sure he meant it in an offensive way.. Saying 'Hey, it's that black guy' is different. How many times do you hear people say 'Hey that straight guy is talking to me?' And even if he is homosexual, why refer to him as being a homosexual and not just quote him and say if you are speaking to him or not? Why not say 'TheThe thinks I'm talking about him'

@BiteMe-Fanboy said:

@utotheg38

I'm sure he meant it in an offensive way.. Saying 'Hey, it's that black guy' is different. How many times do you hear people say 'Hey that straight guy is talking to me?' And even if he is homosexual, why refer to him as being a homosexual and not just quote him and say if you are speaking to him or not? Why not say 'TheThe thinks I'm talking about him'

He's on a ipad so he can't or doesn't know how. (We've talked about that before, So I now).

Fair Enough, If you think It was derogatory then It Is. But I see nothing wrong with It.

Hell no lol.

@Vaeternus said:

Hell no lol.

Care to explain my friend

Hip Hop as many others already stated just isn't in the same league as other music with overall popularity. Rock, pop, dance etc probably even Country(while I don't like that either) is overall more popular then Hip Hop is.

One of my best friends is a HUGE hip hop and rap guy, even he's always telling me it was far better in the 90's then it is now. Known him for over 10 years, he buys every big hiphop or rap album.

Now, personal taste wise I think everyone likes something different but on a world level scale it's no where near.

@utotheg38 said:

@k4tzm4n said:

@utotheg38: @CozyDaPrynce:@BiteMe-Fanboy: It's still using the term in a derogatory way and meant to be offensive. Please try to avoid remarks like that.

So when people say "Hey, Its that black guy" Its using it in a derogatory way?

When does It end?

You're telling me you know for a fact that:

A) "TheThe" is openly gay.

B) And more importantly, "TheThe" doesn't mind being referred to as "that gay guy" and in fact prefers it?

If you can say yes without any question to both, then sure, it's not offensive. But otherwise, I think it was clearly meant as an insult.

@k4tzm4n said:

@utotheg38 said:

@k4tzm4n said:

@utotheg38: @CozyDaPrynce:@BiteMe-Fanboy: It's still using the term in a derogatory way and meant to be offensive. Please try to avoid remarks like that.

So when people say "Hey, Its that black guy" Its using it in a derogatory way?

When does It end?

You're telling me you know for a fact that:

A) "TheThe" is openly gay.

B) And more importantly, "TheThe" doesn't mind being referred to as "that gay guy" and in fact prefers it?

If you can say yes without any question to both, then sure, it's not offensive. But otherwise, I think it was clearly meant as an insult.

Can we ask? :D

@TheThe

@utotheg38: heh, of course. TheThe weighing in would absolutely clear this whole thing up!

Dang, He's offline.

Well theres always Tomorrow. XD

@mrtrickster said:

Rock bands are all over the world

No. Rock bands are not in Africa.

@dreadmaster said:

@TheThe said:

@mrtrickster said:

Rock bands are all over the world

No. Rock bands are not in Africa.

Many rock instruments originate in Africa.

LMAO, This is gonna be good. XD

Yeah.

@dreadmaster said:

@TheThe said:

@mrtrickster said:

Rock bands are all over the world

No. Rock bands are not in Africa.

Many rock instruments originate in Africa.

But that is a different subject, i think. The fact that rock instruments originate in Africa doesnt mean they are used for rock music in Africa. A same instrument can serve different types of music. For example, HipHop beatmakers, Rock stars, Country singers and pop performers, all of them use guitars. A instrument used in rock music in USA can be used for a different purpose in Africa. The instrument alone doesnt give us the popularity nore the genre is coming from.

@KnightRise said:

@TheThe said:

@mrtrickster said:

Rock bands are all over the world

No. Rock bands are not in Africa.

Yes it is. Theres this dope punk-griot/folk-thrash band from South Africa, or Nigeria, or Uganda. IDRR

I have already answered to that. Please read my answer to mrtrickster. It's on the 2nd page of this thread. Technally, there are rock groups in Africa, but a very,very small amount. It's really marginal, just like world music groups are in USA. Since i assume the thread was about popularity/influence/scale of each musical genre,"no rock bands in Africa" means this genre is so marginal it's like it doensnt exist in front of other genres in Africa.

@BiteMe-Fanboy@utotheg38@k4tzm4n

I'm gay. I didnt come out the "closet" like somebody said, because there is no closet for me : i wasnt in one. Some people assumed i was because the stuff i wrote. For example, if i think a male celebrity/character is hot, i'll say he is hot. There's no difference with the straight viners who say all the time this kind of things(like Power girl or Anne Hathaway being hot). Those viners are not in a "closet", nore am i. I'm just giving statement, my opinion.

Now, talking about@CozyDaPrynce ,his intent was clear, he wanted to be offensive to me. "That gay guy" is a derogatory way to talk, and he knows it. Biteme-Fanboy and the Mod have already given all the reasons why, so i wont repeat what they said, except every viner has a nickname, so use it.

Straight to the point, State your opinion

@TheThe said:

@dreadmaster said:

@TheThe said:

@mrtrickster said:

Rock bands are all over the world

No. Rock bands are not in Africa.

Many rock instruments originate in Africa.

But that is a different subject, i think. The fact that rock instruments originate in Africa doesnt mean they are used for rock music in Africa. A same instrument can serve different types of music. For example, HipHop beatmakers, Rock stars, Country singers and pop performers, all of them use guitars. A instrument used in rock music in USA can be used for a different purpose in Africa. The instrument alone doesnt give us the popularity nore the genre is coming from.

@KnightRise said:

@TheThe said:

@mrtrickster said:

Rock bands are all over the world

No. Rock bands are not in Africa.

Yes it is. Theres this dope punk-griot/folk-thrash band from South Africa, or Nigeria, or Uganda. IDRR

I have already answered to that. Please read my answer to mrtrickster. It's on the 2nd page of this thread. Technally, there are rock groups in Africa, but a very,very small amount. It's really marginal, just like world music groups are in USA. Since i assume the thread was about popularity/influence/scale of each musical genre,"no rock bands in Africa" means this genre is so marginal it's like it doensnt exist in front of other genres in Africa.

@BiteMe-Fanboy@utotheg38@k4tzm4n

I'm gay. I didnt come out the "closet" like somebody said, because there is no closet for me : i wasnt in one. Some people assumed i was because the stuff i wrote. For example, if i think a male celebrity/character is hot, i'll say he is hot. There's no difference with the straight viners who say all the time this kind of things(like Power girl or Anne Hathaway being hot). Those viners are not in a "closet", nore am i. I'm just giving statement, my opinion.

Now, talking about@CozyDaPrynce ,his intent was clear, he wanted to be offensive to me. "That gay guy" is a derogatory way to talk, and he knows it. Biteme-Fanboy and the Mod have already given all the reasons why, so i wont repeat what they said, except every viner has a nickname, so use it.

The only thing clear here is the fact that you a Flodge, lol.

First you tell me to f*ck myself then edit your sh!t later? That's straight up Flodge ...

Maybe you should have asked who I was speaking to before you started popping off at the mouth, huh?

Cause you were called "Gay guy" as a repercussion to you telling me to f*ck myself so don't play it off like I wronged you.

So, until you own your sh!t, I won't be showing you enough respect to call you by your screen name.

@CozyDaPrynce said:

@TheThe said:

@dreadmaster said:

@TheThe said:

@mrtrickster said:

Rock bands are all over the world

No. Rock bands are not in Africa.

Many rock instruments originate in Africa.

But that is a different subject, i think. The fact that rock instruments originate in Africa doesnt mean they are used for rock music in Africa. A same instrument can serve different types of music. For example, HipHop beatmakers, Rock stars, Country singers and pop performers, all of them use guitars. A instrument used in rock music in USA can be used for a different purpose in Africa. The instrument alone doesnt give us the popularity nore the genre is coming from.

@KnightRise said:

@TheThe said:

@mrtrickster said:

Rock bands are all over the world

No. Rock bands are not in Africa.

Yes it is. Theres this dope punk-griot/folk-thrash band from South Africa, or Nigeria, or Uganda. IDRR

I have already answered to that. Please read my answer to mrtrickster. It's on the 2nd page of this thread. Technally, there are rock groups in Africa, but a very,very small amount. It's really marginal, just like world music groups are in USA. Since i assume the thread was about popularity/influence/scale of each musical genre,"no rock bands in Africa" means this genre is so marginal it's like it doensnt exist in front of other genres in Africa.

@BiteMe-Fanboy@utotheg38@k4tzm4n

I'm gay. I didnt come out the "closet" like somebody said, because there is no closet for me : i wasnt in one. Some people assumed i was because the stuff i wrote. For example, if i think a male celebrity/character is hot, i'll say he is hot. There's no difference with the straight viners who say all the time this kind of things(like Power girl or Anne Hathaway being hot). Those viners are not in a "closet", nore am i. I'm just giving statement, my opinion.

Now, talking about@CozyDaPrynce ,his intent was clear, he wanted to be offensive to me. "That gay guy" is a derogatory way to talk, and he knows it. Biteme-Fanboy and the Mod have already given all the reasons why, so i wont repeat what they said, except every viner has a nickname, so use it.

The only thing clear here is the fact that you a Flodge, lol.

First you tell me to f*ck myself then edit your sh!t later? That's straight up Flodge ...

Maybe you should have asked who I was speaking to before you started popping off at the mouth, huh?

Cause you were called "Gay guy" as a repercussion to you telling me to f*ck myself so don't play it off like I wronged you.

So, until you own your sh!t, I won't be showing you enough respect to call you by your screen name.

I said at first "fuck yourself" because your first sentence was " Fuck that nigga blah blah". You were already the one disrespecting debaters for no reason, i though you were talking about me because in this thread i was the one who talked the most about Africa. You really wanna know why I edited 3 or 4mn after posting my first response ?

Because i didnt want to give you the pleasure to think you made me "mad" with your "fuck that nigga" sentence.But it wasnt me,so i'm fine. Regardless of that, you still dont have a point because your excuse is invalid : your first post was already disrespecting people. Maybe you didnt insult me, but you have insulted someone else after all. Your rudeness was uncessary, no matter what excuse you'll try to defend yourself, because you knew that the post wast edited only 3 or 4minutes later, which is often an indication that people dont wanna fight without being sure. But despite that, you still prefer to provoke me with the "that gay guy". You're not a child, you know exactly what you do.

For the rest of your so-called "bad ass" attitude, maybe you think that you're in a tv show ? It's so ridiculous that is pretty funny. Do what you want to do, it's not important to me, since i dont need your respect to enjoy the vine. I didnt notice your existence before your post, so i dont really care if you dont respect me or not. In fact you'll be the one who will waste time bitching about someone who wont give a shit about you or what you think about him.So dear friend, go ahead, LOL...

Woah,Woah, Woah.

Lets just calm down. Bygones be Bygones.

@TheThe said:

@CozyDaPrynce said:

@TheThe said:

@dreadmaster said:

@TheThe said:

@mrtrickster said:

Rock bands are all over the world

No. Rock bands are not in Africa.

Many rock instruments originate in Africa.

But that is a different subject, i think. The fact that rock instruments originate in Africa doesnt mean they are used for rock music in Africa. A same instrument can serve different types of music. For example, HipHop beatmakers, Rock stars, Country singers and pop performers, all of them use guitars. A instrument used in rock music in USA can be used for a different purpose in Africa. The instrument alone doesnt give us the popularity nore the genre is coming from.

@KnightRise said:

@TheThe said:

@mrtrickster said:

Rock bands are all over the world

No. Rock bands are not in Africa.

Yes it is. Theres this dope punk-griot/folk-thrash band from South Africa, or Nigeria, or Uganda. IDRR

I have already answered to that. Please read my answer to mrtrickster. It's on the 2nd page of this thread. Technally, there are rock groups in Africa, but a very,very small amount. It's really marginal, just like world music groups are in USA. Since i assume the thread was about popularity/influence/scale of each musical genre,"no rock bands in Africa" means this genre is so marginal it's like it doensnt exist in front of other genres in Africa.

@BiteMe-Fanboy@utotheg38@k4tzm4n

I'm gay. I didnt come out the "closet" like somebody said, because there is no closet for me : i wasnt in one. Some people assumed i was because the stuff i wrote. For example, if i think a male celebrity/character is hot, i'll say he is hot. There's no difference with the straight viners who say all the time this kind of things(like Power girl or Anne Hathaway being hot). Those viners are not in a "closet", nore am i. I'm just giving statement, my opinion.

Now, talking about@CozyDaPrynce ,his intent was clear, he wanted to be offensive to me. "That gay guy" is a derogatory way to talk, and he knows it. Biteme-Fanboy and the Mod have already given all the reasons why, so i wont repeat what they said, except every viner has a nickname, so use it.

The only thing clear here is the fact that you a Flodge, lol.

First you tell me to f*ck myself then edit your sh!t later? That's straight up Flodge ...

Maybe you should have asked who I was speaking to before you started popping off at the mouth, huh?

Cause you were called "Gay guy" as a repercussion to you telling me to f*ck myself so don't play it off like I wronged you.

So, until you own your sh!t, I won't be showing you enough respect to call you by your screen name.

I said at first "fuck yourself" because your first sentence was " Fuck that nigga blah blah". You were already the one disrespecting debaters for no reason, i though you were talking about me because in this thread i was the one who talked the most about Africa. You really wanna know why I edited 3 or 4mn after posting my first response ?

Because i didnt want to give you the pleasure to think you made me "mad" with your "fuck that nigga" sentence.But it wasnt me,so i'm fine. Regardless of that, you still dont have a point because your excuse is invalid : your first post was already disrespecting people. Maybe you didnt insult me, but you have insulted someone else after all. Your rudeness was uncessary, no matter what excuse you'll try to defend yourself, because you knew that the post wast edited only 3 or 4minutes later, which is often an indication that people dont wanna fight without being sure. But despite that, you still prefer to provoke me with the "that gay guy". You're not a child, you know exactly what you do.

For the rest of your so-called "bad ass" attitude, maybe you think that you're in a tv show ? It's so ridiculous that is pretty funny. Do what you want to do, it's not important to me, since i dont need your respect to enjoy the vine. I didnt notice your existence before your post, so i dont really care if you dont respect me or not. In fact you'll be the one who will waste time bitching about someone who wont give a shit about you or what you think about him.So dear friend, go ahead, LOL...

1) You responding with "Fuck yourself" at first obviously means you were mad. Editing your post means you realized maybe you f*cked up, no?

2) I was disrespecting someone who was stereotyping Africa. You gonna stand up for that person now? SMH ...

3) You're so-called "intellectual attitude"? maybe you should stop trying since you didn't even have the sense to understand who I was talking to and especially since now you over there defending them.

@CozyDaPrynce said:

@TheThe said:

@CozyDaPrynce said:

@TheThe said:

@dreadmaster said:

@TheThe said:

@mrtrickster said:

Rock bands are all over the world

No. Rock bands are not in Africa.

Many rock instruments originate in Africa.

But that is a different subject, i think. The fact that rock instruments originate in Africa doesnt mean they are used for rock music in Africa. A same instrument can serve different types of music. For example, HipHop beatmakers, Rock stars, Country singers and pop performers, all of them use guitars. A instrument used in rock music in USA can be used for a different purpose in Africa. The instrument alone doesnt give us the popularity nore the genre is coming from.

@KnightRise said:

@TheThe said:

@mrtrickster said:

Rock bands are all over the world

No. Rock bands are not in Africa.

Yes it is. Theres this dope punk-griot/folk-thrash band from South Africa, or Nigeria, or Uganda. IDRR

I have already answered to that. Please read my answer to mrtrickster. It's on the 2nd page of this thread. Technally, there are rock groups in Africa, but a very,very small amount. It's really marginal, just like world music groups are in USA. Since i assume the thread was about popularity/influence/scale of each musical genre,"no rock bands in Africa" means this genre is so marginal it's like it doensnt exist in front of other genres in Africa.

@BiteMe-Fanboy@utotheg38@k4tzm4n

I'm gay. I didnt come out the "closet" like somebody said, because there is no closet for me : i wasnt in one. Some people assumed i was because the stuff i wrote. For example, if i think a male celebrity/character is hot, i'll say he is hot. There's no difference with the straight viners who say all the time this kind of things(like Power girl or Anne Hathaway being hot). Those viners are not in a "closet", nore am i. I'm just giving statement, my opinion.

Now, talking about@CozyDaPrynce ,his intent was clear, he wanted to be offensive to me. "That gay guy" is a derogatory way to talk, and he knows it. Biteme-Fanboy and the Mod have already given all the reasons why, so i wont repeat what they said, except every viner has a nickname, so use it.

The only thing clear here is the fact that you a Flodge, lol.

First you tell me to f*ck myself then edit your sh!t later? That's straight up Flodge ...

Maybe you should have asked who I was speaking to before you started popping off at the mouth, huh?

Cause you were called "Gay guy" as a repercussion to you telling me to f*ck myself so don't play it off like I wronged you.

So, until you own your sh!t, I won't be showing you enough respect to call you by your screen name.

I said at first "fuck yourself" because your first sentence was " Fuck that nigga blah blah". You were already the one disrespecting debaters for no reason, i though you were talking about me because in this thread i was the one who talked the most about Africa. You really wanna know why I edited 3 or 4mn after posting my first response ?

Because i didnt want to give you the pleasure to think you made me "mad" with your "fuck that nigga" sentence.But it wasnt me,so i'm fine. Regardless of that, you still dont have a point because your excuse is invalid : your first post was already disrespecting people. Maybe you didnt insult me, but you have insulted someone else after all. Your rudeness was uncessary, no matter what excuse you'll try to defend yourself, because you knew that the post wast edited only 3 or 4minutes later, which is often an indication that people dont wanna fight without being sure. But despite that, you still prefer to provoke me with the "that gay guy". You're not a child, you know exactly what you do.

For the rest of your so-called "bad ass" attitude, maybe you think that you're in a tv show ? It's so ridiculous that is pretty funny. Do what you want to do, it's not important to me, since i dont need your respect to enjoy the vine. I didnt notice your existence before your post, so i dont really care if you dont respect me or not. In fact you'll be the one who will waste time bitching about someone who wont give a shit about you or what you think about him.So dear friend, go ahead, LOL...

1) You responding with "Fuck yourself" at first obviously means you were mad. Editing your post means you realized maybe you f*cked up, no?

2) I was disrespecting someone who was stereotyping Africa. You gonna stand up for that person now? SMH ...

3) You're so-called "intellectual attitude"? maybe you should stop trying since you didn't even have the sense to understand who I was talking to and especially since now you over there defending them.

1)I said: i didnt want to give you the pleasure to think that you made me mad. Being irritated and letting someone knowing that are 2 different things.

2) If the person was stereotyping Africa, i can understand your desire to disrespect, but it doesnt mean it is the best way to answer, especially when the person was stereotyping without being rude. Stereotypic statements are sometimes a lack of knowledge. According to me, the better way to make people understand your ideas is to be calm, as much as needed. And i say this, while i'm often myself a snappy guy. But at least i'm tryin.

3)I'm not tryin to be "intellectual", for the simple reason that i'm not one, and i dont write like one. Misunderstanding can happen to everyone, and maybe you should also try to be a little more clear when you write, unstead of writing monosyllabic sentences which can be aimed to anybody.

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