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#101 Edited by nerdork (4038 posts) - - Show Bio

I am surprised so many people bit down on the obvious flame bait.

Entertaining though....continue

#102 Posted by DeathandGrim (2051 posts) - - Show Bio

We ain't the greatest but I wouldn't wanna be from anywhere else I tell ya that

#103 Edited by krompo (139 posts) - - Show Bio

No.

It's 13th.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quality-of-life_Index

15th for democracy.

http://democracyranking.org/wordpress/?page_id=57

#104 Posted by NoahMaximillion (328 posts) - - Show Bio

@squares:

Name a country that's better. America may not be that good, but it's better than all the others.

England, home of Sherlock and Dr Who (and the guys who play Superman and Spider-man)

#105 Posted by JetiiMitra (8713 posts) - - Show Bio

yes duh obvy u all jus jely

#106 Posted by consolemaster001 (5817 posts) - - Show Bio

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#107 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (33899 posts) - - Show Bio

@supernategames said:

@squares:

Name a country that's better. America may not be that good, but it's better than all the others.

England, home of Sherlock and Dr Who (and the guys who play Superman and Spider-man)

And Batman and directed Batman

#108 Edited by nerdork (4038 posts) - - Show Bio

@noahmaximillion said:

@supernategames said:

@squares:

Name a country that's better. America may not be that good, but it's better than all the others.

England, home of Sherlock and Dr Who (and the guys who play Superman and Spider-man)

I agree, I love the UK as a whole. Only been there a couple times. Once to visit my Irish mom’s birthplace, and distant family members, in Dublin and Dun Laoghaoire. Then again to visit England. Also a big fan of Italy…my dad's birthplace (Tuscany).

I do have to disagree with that last part, though. Andrew Garfield, IMO, is not something to brag about. He really didn’t pull off a Peter Parker vibe for me. Since when was Parker cool with his peers in high school? When was he a skateboarder? Why does he dress all hipster with his quaffed, yet messy, hair? The movie was great, but Garfield as Peter Parker was…meh, okay at best. His Spidey was pretty good, just not his Parker. McGuire is still the best Spiderman.

#109 Posted by GunGunW (997 posts) - - Show Bio

A lot of people think their country is the best in the world. There's nothing wrong with that, as long as you don't think of yourself as superior for being from said country.

#110 Posted by giantsfan576 (1095 posts) - - Show Bio

@edamame: America is a plutocracy, masked and labeled as a democracy, obviously.

#111 Posted by RogueShadow (11102 posts) - - Show Bio

America is a profoundly pleasant country, just think of other nations around the globe embroiled in war, not sure from day to day whether somebody is going to killy you and your entire family, or make you kill your entire family. There is no best, I live in Britain and recognise I am incredibly lucky, just like somebody living in America, France and the majority of the Western world to be honest.

But you guys have The Walking Dead, so I guess you just about take the title of Greatest country in the world.

#112 Posted by isaac_clarke (5448 posts) - - Show Bio

We're certainly the slowest when dealing with social issues in the world.

#113 Edited by dccomicsrule2011 (25540 posts) - - Show Bio

@jedixman said:

No government is perfect.

/Thread

Honestly, this is the only correct answer.

#114 Posted by mrdecepticonleader (18395 posts) - - Show Bio

No such thing as "the greatest country ever". It is a moot point to even apply that term or even try to rate countries. Pretty daft really.

#115 Posted by JediXMan (30931 posts) - - Show Bio

@edamame: America is a plutocracy, masked and labeled as a democracy, obviously.

The United States is not a true democracy; it is defined as a Constitutional Republic. There are similarities, but it is different.

US Constitution: Article IV, section 4:

The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government

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#116 Posted by lifeofvibe (3509 posts) - - Show Bio
#117 Posted by SilverPool (1805 posts) - - Show Bio

The only other country I've been to was Australia, which I absolutely loved other than the fact that everything is horribly overpriced.

So that's a tough one because I didn't stay there long enough to give a confident answer.

#118 Posted by SilverPool (1805 posts) - - Show Bio

I have to ask this to you nay sayers....

What would you do?

#119 Edited by NorrinBoltagonPrime21 (6096 posts) - - Show Bio

Wakanda is better.

I prefer Attilan, but to each his own.

#120 Posted by Squares (7485 posts) - - Show Bio

Kazakhstan greatest country in the world!

#121 Posted by RazzaTazz (9676 posts) - - Show Bio

The USA still has the best of the best when it comes to education and innovation, but they are relying off of fewer people. Any country that can allow its citizens to be so ill informed and uneducated is bound to topple sooner than later.

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#123 Posted by Illuminatus (9510 posts) - - Show Bio

@edamame said:
@giantsfan576 said:

@edamame: America is a plutocracy, masked and labeled as a democracy, obviously.

What we need to focus on is strengthening the middle class. It would be best if we have a small upper class, a small lower class and a very large and strong middle class.

..which is what we still have. The middle class appears to be shrinking relative to the exponential gains in wealth that the upper class has received on the part of federal and monetary decisions which only the upper class have the wherewithal and resources to hedge against and profit off of, i.e. the stock market, FOREX index, etc. Liberals, as always, have managed to accomplish the exact opposite of what they purport to stand for with their policies and so called 'progressive nature'.

#124 Edited by Illuminatus (9510 posts) - - Show Bio

@citizenbane said:

And on the subject of the UK, China's state-run media recently told David Cameron and the British government to "stop pretending that it (the UK) is a big power" and recognize that Britain is now "apt only for travel and study", after the Brits tried criticizing some piece of Beijing's policy or the other. There are very few First World countries whose political stock has plummeted as badly as the United Kingdom.

Probably one of the most accurate statements about the current standing of the UK I've seen in some time. The Economist, a paper based out of London, has even admitted that the UK's time is over, and the world will simply move on as the leading industry in the UK becomes financial services, followed by overpriced manufactured goods and services, particularly from aeronautics and pharmaceuticals. The only thing worse than Canadians pretending they've been relevant in the headlines without Rob Ford would be the Europeans pretending their rapidly declining countries and culture (which would've been turned to ash by the Soviets without American treasure and blood) who come in here and pretend their nations of a few tens of millions of people are comparable to a nation that encompasses almost half the land of the entire North American continent with 300+ million people.

@tupiaz said:

The countries lack of healthcare, lack of democracy (two party system), insecure (high killing rates, capital punishment , the highest percentage of the population in jail for any country, way to many guns flowing around, high jail time for basically minding your own business for instance doing drugs) dose that is a land I would never live in. Nice place to visit and for the most parts friendly people but I prefer to live a place where I don't have to worry about a big hospital bill or worry about if my insurance cover me or not. Like wise have political system where I can choose between several parties and not just pick the one a dislike the least. And even though America is seen as the land of the free it is very often socially control by strong christian beliefs which I don't necessary agrees with and you should have the freedom not to have. If America is so free why is it then so wrong to be a socialist and atheist/agnostic? Shouldn't you have the freedom to think what you will?

Except the United States was never founded as a democracy and anyone who seriously understands the United States would probably tell you the same thing. The lack of your precious 'democracy' is intentional.

Remember, this is a nation of well over 300 million people we're discussing here, not some country with a low population like Finland or Switzerland. High rates of violence should be expected in a nation as large as ours, with a population as diverse as ours, and with relatively ample opportunities to engage in criminal behavior.

Capital punishment is not the uniform law of the land, and is in fact banned in 18 states, as well as the District of Columbia. Maybe do some research before you make sweeping generalizations about the US.

http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/states-and-without-death-penalty

Drug laws are on the way out, as the culture has shifted against them and many states are holding referendums (yay for democracy!) to determine whether or not they should be made legal. It is the federal government that has initiated the 'War on Drugs' and punishes people so severely, even with leftists in charge of it. Blame them and their perplexing stances.

Except the US still comes in overwhelmingly in the highest regards when it comes to quick and plentiful services in the healthcare industry, not to mention innovation. Yes, you have to pay more. Blame, once again, excessive federal government interferences which have resulted in skewed market mechanisms and preventing states being able to pass legislation that works for them.

Again, on the political front, your knowledge of the United States is profoundly weak. There are dozens of registered and genuine political parties in the United States, one of which exists outside the two-party paradigm that I tend to support. You're welcome to write in candidates' names, vote for whomever you choose, and support whatever party you choose. Communist and Socialist parties were largely banned or inhibited around the world, but after a certain point, the US stopped going after them because they realized people were just shying away from the silliness of socialism and communism. Those parties have very little presence because nobody cares about them enough to propel them into the national spotlight, not because there is some conspiracy. Yes, the RNC and DNC have the game fixed in some regards, but their popularity is waning and independent politicians are rising.

Also, keep in mind that those parties are huge coalitions. There is the imperialist neo-conservatives in the Republican Party, as well as Evangelicals, Libertarians, moderates, 'log cabin' Republicans, 'progressive' Republicans, and so on. In the Democratic Party we find socialists, Evangelicals, Progressives, left-leaning libertarians, and so on. Maybe attempt to understand what American politics actually is before you begin trying to dismantle it.

There is nothing wrong with being atheist/socialist in the United States, and anyone who has been to an American university in the last few decades knows that the majority of those in higher education are of the leftist persuasion, with atheism being common as well. The United States was the leader in the fight against radical collectivism for decades, so are you really shocked that leftist ideologies are largely stigmatized after everyone saw what the Nazis, Soviets, and CCP did to their own people? It's always been hailed as the land of free enterprise, where capitalism has contributed more to innovation and leadership than some paltry ideology of socialism has ever done.

There are no laws stacked against certain peoples, as the major tenant of our Constitution embodies the belief that one can express themselves in whatever way they see fit, as long as they don't initiate force onto another and cause harm.

#125 Posted by SheenLantern (6793 posts) - - Show Bio

@edamame:

May I ask if you have had more positive experiences in other countries? If so, may I ask which countries those are?

England, Scotland, pretty much all over the United Kingdom, France, Spain and Norway. That's lived in, 6 months or more.

There's this, sort of inherent indifference I've noticed to be absent in the United States, Where otherwise I've found people to be more focused on themselves, and the betterment of themselves.

I can't help but be reminded of this poster.

Of course, the United States is a very poorly educated country, there's simply no denying it. And I'm sure we've all seen the studies linking low intelligence and prejudice.

It poses a saturated media filled with more subliminal hate propaganda than I could have ever believed, I have a very strong memory from a few years ago of watching some sort of news program and the family of a missing (white) teenager had come in for an interview. The last time the boy had been seen was when he was seen leaving a building with 2 black men, the conclusion the hosts immediately came to was that he had "fallen in with the wrong crowd", I'm not even joking, the second the word "black" was used, you could see the gears turning in their heads. To which of course the family nodded in agreement. Disgusting stuff, I was just a boy, no older than 12 and I was dumbfounded at how they could say that on TV. And it honestly does influence people.

For example, immigrants coming from countries all around the world. That could include Poland or South Korea or Ireland or Germany or some other country.

I wouldn't go as far to say it excels in that aspect. England is at least as diverse in that respect.

#126 Posted by tupiaz (2226 posts) - - Show Bio

@illuminatus:

When did I said you country was founded on democracy the problem is that it hasn't moved much since it began have to parties for 300 million people is not really representative. In many European countries there will be 6-8 parties to choose from even in a small countries like Sweden, Norway and Denmark.

The high rate of violence is accounted for. Just look at murder rates. four US cities in top 50 and Iraq is lower than there of the cities. There is not a single country from western Europe country.

Also I do now capital punishment is a state law. But when it is legal in over 50% of the states then i reflects back on the country.

Well I was blaming the war on drugs on the federal government however it is still connected to USA.

I can survived to wait a little to get a treatment (in Denmark it is not more than 3 weeks) and knowing that everybody can get healthcare rather than just a selected group of individuals how can afford it.

Again you seem to think I know very little about US politics when in fact I know your system pretty well. The problem with your system is that the winner takes it all which benefits the two parties you have. In a few states I believe it is split percentage wise however it is not the norm. Also the system of electoral college does that even though a candidate gets more votes percentages wise because he didn't win the good states with many electors. Again fare from my democratic view.

If you believe that nazi regime in german or the regime in Soviets had anything to do with socialism I think you have to research a little about what socialism is and what does regime did. The soviets didn't help the poor nor the workers in stead they got robbed so that the political top could live a life in luxury. Those who compliant was sent to work camps (Gulag). The McCarthyism there was in effect in the begging of the 50's was nothing more than paranoia and which hunt

Also perhaps the atheist and social movement is there at college but that is not the entire US. People I have met have made a big deal out of that people in administration and government is not the only US and does not represent them. You will get a hispanic and a women as a president before you will get a president that declares he or she is an atheist.

Before discrediting somebody for not knowing anything better be sure it is true.

#127 Posted by RBT (4305 posts) - - Show Bio

What?

#128 Posted by MatteoPG (1927 posts) - - Show Bio

We're certainly the slowest when dealing with social issues in the world.

Lol at this! No, that sounds aggressive. I mean, you obviously haven't spent a lot of time in Italy... we have the primate for political/social slowness and absurd beurocracy. If you take that from us we don't have anything anymore.

Oh, also, we are only third in the ranking of "who has more convincts in parliament"... so, there is that...

#129 Edited by Vaeternus (9410 posts) - - Show Bio

Used to be. Now days not so much sadly I mean look at the dopes we keep electing.

I still support my country its the best place ultimately for opportunity and lots of medical procedures.

Its just a shame how easily people here get brainwashed when certain people make empty promises.

#130 Posted by KaijuKingGojira (1410 posts) - - Show Bio

No the greatest country in the world is Utopia. Which sadly won't exist in our life times.

#131 Posted by Vaeternus (9410 posts) - - Show Bio

No such thing exists ^ lol

#132 Posted by Raiiyn (3596 posts) - - Show Bio

@citizenbane: You didn't get the valley girl thing huh... **le sigh**

Anywho, you can't discredit a country for not contributing recently as you said. Internally, Canada is extremely stable and provides a wealth of social benefits the US would never even fathom of. Four of the world top banks are Canadian and we didn't suffer through recession in the same ways other countries, including the US, have recently. Canada has a long list of pros and I find it offensive that you would discredit them as being non-important because 'no one cares about Canada'. The only reason people care about America is to laugh at the fat a**hats make fools of themselves on shows like Honey Boo Boo or Toddlers in Tiaras. That is also basically how the world views Americans. <--- not a fan of that statement, are you?

You really shouldn't be making generalized statements like those in your first edited comment. The original version was much better.

#133 Posted by KingOfAsh (3621 posts) - - Show Bio

Australia is the best!

#134 Posted by CuddleBear (1242 posts) - - Show Bio

USA <-------- THE CHAMP IS HERE!!!

#136 Edited by Jonny_Anonymous (33899 posts) - - Show Bio

@citizenbane said:

And on the subject of the UK, China's state-run media recently told David Cameron and the British government to "stop pretending that it (the UK) is a big power" and recognize that Britain is now "apt only for travel and study", after the Brits tried criticizing some piece of Beijing's policy or the other. There are very few First World countries whose political stock has plummeted as badly as the United Kingdom.

Probably one of the most accurate statements about the current standing of the UK I've seen in some time. The Economist, a paper based out of London, has even admitted that the UK's time is over, and the world will simply move on as the leading industry in the UK becomes financial services, followed by overpriced manufactured goods and services, particularly from aeronautics and pharmaceuticals. The only thing worse than Canadians pretending they've been relevant in the headlines without Rob Ford would be the Europeans pretending their rapidly declining countries and culture (which would've been turned to ash by the Soviets without American treasure and blood) who come in here and pretend their nations of a few tens of millions of people are comparable to a nation that encompasses almost half the land of the entire North American continent with 300+ million people.

@tupiaz said:

The countries lack of healthcare, lack of democracy (two party system), insecure (high killing rates, capital punishment , the highest percentage of the population in jail for any country, way to many guns flowing around, high jail time for basically minding your own business for instance doing drugs) dose that is a land I would never live in. Nice place to visit and for the most parts friendly people but I prefer to live a place where I don't have to worry about a big hospital bill or worry about if my insurance cover me or not. Like wise have political system where I can choose between several parties and not just pick the one a dislike the least. And even though America is seen as the land of the free it is very often socially control by strong christian beliefs which I don't necessary agrees with and you should have the freedom not to have. If America is so free why is it then so wrong to be a socialist and atheist/agnostic? Shouldn't you have the freedom to think what you will?

Except the United States was never founded as a democracy and anyone who seriously understands the United States would probably tell you the same thing. The lack of your precious 'democracy' is intentional.

Remember, this is a nation of well over 300 million people we're discussing here, not some country with a low population like Finland or Switzerland. High rates of violence should be expected in a nation as large as ours, with a population as diverse as ours, and with relatively ample opportunities to engage in criminal behavior.

Capital punishment is not the uniform law of the land, and is in fact banned in 18 states, as well as the District of Columbia. Maybe do some research before you make sweeping generalizations about the US.

http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/states-and-without-death-penalty

Drug laws are on the way out, as the culture has shifted against them and many states are holding referendums (yay for democracy!) to determine whether or not they should be made legal. It is the federal government that has initiated the 'War on Drugs' and punishes people so severely, even with leftists in charge of it. Blame them and their perplexing stances.

Except the US still comes in overwhelmingly in the highest regards when it comes to quick and plentiful services in the healthcare industry, not to mention innovation. Yes, you have to pay more. Blame, once again, excessive federal government interferences which have resulted in skewed market mechanisms and preventing states being able to pass legislation that works for them.

Again, on the political front, your knowledge of the United States is profoundly weak. There are dozens of registered and genuine political parties in the United States, one of which exists outside the two-party paradigm that I tend to support. You're welcome to write in candidates' names, vote for whomever you choose, and support whatever party you choose. Communist and Socialist parties were largely banned or inhibited around the world, but after a certain point, the US stopped going after them because they realized people were just shying away from the silliness of socialism and communism. Those parties have very little presence because nobody cares about them enough to propel them into the national spotlight, not because there is some conspiracy. Yes, the RNC and DNC have the game fixed in some regards, but their popularity is waning and independent politicians are rising.

Also, keep in mind that those parties are huge coalitions. There is the imperialist neo-conservatives in the Republican Party, as well as Evangelicals, Libertarians, moderates, 'log cabin' Republicans, 'progressive' Republicans, and so on. In the Democratic Party we find socialists, Evangelicals, Progressives, left-leaning libertarians, and so on. Maybe attempt to understand what American politics actually is before you begin trying to dismantle it.

There is nothing wrong with being atheist/socialist in the United States, and anyone who has been to an American university in the last few decades knows that the majority of those in higher education are of the leftist persuasion, with atheism being common as well. The United States was the leader in the fight against radical collectivism for decades, so are you really shocked that leftist ideologies are largely stigmatized after everyone saw what the Nazis, Soviets, and CCP did to their own people? It's always been hailed as the land of free enterprise, where capitalism has contributed more to innovation and leadership than some paltry ideology of socialism has ever done.

There are no laws stacked against certain peoples, as the major tenant of our Constitution embodies the belief that one can express themselves in whatever way they see fit, as long as they don't initiate force onto another and cause harm.

Instead of making pepole realize that America is the greatest all your doing is confirming the stereotype that it's full of loudmouth jerks.

#137 Posted by JetiiMitra (8713 posts) - - Show Bio

@illuminatus said:

@citizenbane said:

And on the subject of the UK, China's state-run media recently told David Cameron and the British government to "stop pretending that it (the UK) is a big power" and recognize that Britain is now "apt only for travel and study", after the Brits tried criticizing some piece of Beijing's policy or the other. There are very few First World countries whose political stock has plummeted as badly as the United Kingdom.

Probably one of the most accurate statements about the current standing of the UK I've seen in some time. The Economist, a paper based out of London, has even admitted that the UK's time is over, and the world will simply move on as the leading industry in the UK becomes financial services, followed by overpriced manufactured goods and services, particularly from aeronautics and pharmaceuticals. The only thing worse than Canadians pretending they've been relevant in the headlines without Rob Ford would be the Europeans pretending their rapidly declining countries and culture (which would've been turned to ash by the Soviets without American treasure and blood) who come in here and pretend their nations of a few tens of millions of people are comparable to a nation that encompasses almost half the land of the entire North American continent with 300+ million people.

@tupiaz said:

The countries lack of healthcare, lack of democracy (two party system), insecure (high killing rates, capital punishment , the highest percentage of the population in jail for any country, way to many guns flowing around, high jail time for basically minding your own business for instance doing drugs) dose that is a land I would never live in. Nice place to visit and for the most parts friendly people but I prefer to live a place where I don't have to worry about a big hospital bill or worry about if my insurance cover me or not. Like wise have political system where I can choose between several parties and not just pick the one a dislike the least. And even though America is seen as the land of the free it is very often socially control by strong christian beliefs which I don't necessary agrees with and you should have the freedom not to have. If America is so free why is it then so wrong to be a socialist and atheist/agnostic? Shouldn't you have the freedom to think what you will?

Except the United States was never founded as a democracy and anyone who seriously understands the United States would probably tell you the same thing. The lack of your precious 'democracy' is intentional.

Remember, this is a nation of well over 300 million people we're discussing here, not some country with a low population like Finland or Switzerland. High rates of violence should be expected in a nation as large as ours, with a population as diverse as ours, and with relatively ample opportunities to engage in criminal behavior.

Capital punishment is not the uniform law of the land, and is in fact banned in 18 states, as well as the District of Columbia. Maybe do some research before you make sweeping generalizations about the US.

http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/states-and-without-death-penalty

Drug laws are on the way out, as the culture has shifted against them and many states are holding referendums (yay for democracy!) to determine whether or not they should be made legal. It is the federal government that has initiated the 'War on Drugs' and punishes people so severely, even with leftists in charge of it. Blame them and their perplexing stances.

Except the US still comes in overwhelmingly in the highest regards when it comes to quick and plentiful services in the healthcare industry, not to mention innovation. Yes, you have to pay more. Blame, once again, excessive federal government interferences which have resulted in skewed market mechanisms and preventing states being able to pass legislation that works for them.

Again, on the political front, your knowledge of the United States is profoundly weak. There are dozens of registered and genuine political parties in the United States, one of which exists outside the two-party paradigm that I tend to support. You're welcome to write in candidates' names, vote for whomever you choose, and support whatever party you choose. Communist and Socialist parties were largely banned or inhibited around the world, but after a certain point, the US stopped going after them because they realized people were just shying away from the silliness of socialism and communism. Those parties have very little presence because nobody cares about them enough to propel them into the national spotlight, not because there is some conspiracy. Yes, the RNC and DNC have the game fixed in some regards, but their popularity is waning and independent politicians are rising.

Also, keep in mind that those parties are huge coalitions. There is the imperialist neo-conservatives in the Republican Party, as well as Evangelicals, Libertarians, moderates, 'log cabin' Republicans, 'progressive' Republicans, and so on. In the Democratic Party we find socialists, Evangelicals, Progressives, left-leaning libertarians, and so on. Maybe attempt to understand what American politics actually is before you begin trying to dismantle it.

There is nothing wrong with being atheist/socialist in the United States, and anyone who has been to an American university in the last few decades knows that the majority of those in higher education are of the leftist persuasion, with atheism being common as well. The United States was the leader in the fight against radical collectivism for decades, so are you really shocked that leftist ideologies are largely stigmatized after everyone saw what the Nazis, Soviets, and CCP did to their own people? It's always been hailed as the land of free enterprise, where capitalism has contributed more to innovation and leadership than some paltry ideology of socialism has ever done.

There are no laws stacked against certain peoples, as the major tenant of our Constitution embodies the belief that one can express themselves in whatever way they see fit, as long as they don't initiate force onto another and cause harm.

Instead of making pepole realize that America is the greatest all your doing is confirming the stereotype that it's full of loudmouth jerks.

I'm confused. Defending why your country doesn't suck as badly as everybody is saying = being a loudmouth jerk?

#139 Edited by Jonny_Anonymous (33899 posts) - - Show Bio

@mitran: the first part is what I have a problem with, he's insecure about his own country instead of saying why it's good he's mudslinging at other countries, it's like saying 'I have the best car, not because it's fast but because yours is cheap' that's pretty immature.

#140 Edited by Jonny_Anonymous (33899 posts) - - Show Bio
#143 Posted by TDK_1997 (14985 posts) - - Show Bio

No country is perfect or the greatest of all.Each country has something that is better than another country and there are things that that country doesn't have and another country does.This is a very subjective thing that doesn't have a right answer but the most I can say is that America is a good country in my opinion to live in but it has it's flaws as any other place in the world.

#144 Posted by SC (13223 posts) - - Show Bio

Superlative's eh? Funny things, countries less so to me, I mean after all what is a country really but a loose collection of people around an approximate geographic location with its own system of rule. Greatest country? As defined by? What about greatest ice cream? A lot simpler in some ways, still gonna be pretty hard to come up with a good answer that doesn't rely on a lot of subjective opinion. I think better to think of great countries perhaps? The USA should definitely be up there with the greatest, then again… I might be biased. Lot of my favorite scientists, writers, actors, singers, comedians and just people are from there. Lots of great critical thinkers and skeptics.

You know ironically one of the reasons I like a country like the United States is that it has so many people that are so skeptical and critical of things like patriotism and pride and so opposed to the idea of their country being the greatest. To me thats a type of greatness in itself. Carl Sagan, Richard Feynman, Lawrence Krauss great Americans sure, to me they are great scientists though. See the difference? One thing is about where you were born and live, another about what you do and how you think. The things can overlap, but I'd live to live in a world where they don't. A lot of my favorite people from USA almost seemed dismissive of their country and especially critical and mocking towards patriotism. Looking at things in a much bigger scale (pale blue dot) or much much smaller (quantum mechanics)

The USA is a huge place as well with a lot of people. It has the third biggest population in the world, that brings certain advantages and disadvantages. It has more people than France, Canada, England, Australia, Netherlands and Italy combined. The only other two countries with larger populations are China and India and their system of government, media and social structures are dramatically different hence their own sets of problems and advantages. Too complex and nuance to really get into with a humble post. There are a few countries I personally prefer to the USA as far as appreciation and preference, like Finland, Sweden, Norway, Canada and Denmark. Countries I have studied a bit and learned about. Countries that have independent of that tended to trend especially well in various sources studies as far as treatment of foreigners, economic and social mobility, tolerance towards others, quality of life for residents, personal safety, peacefulness, social freedoms, business potential, government corruption (lack of) so on, places the USA does well in relatively but never Number 1 (so why the chants?). Ironically my own country tends to do well with various studies and comparisons (apparently its even more free than the land of the free) I don't really have that high an opinion of, but maybe thats me. I apply even more skepticism and critical thinking to things associated with me, isn't that more fun instead of trying to puff up ones chest to showboat?

So I don't really buy into the idea of a greatest country. I do think that Canada, Norway, Finland, Sweden, Denmark are great countries. Lots more other great countries too, the USA included, Australia, England, Scotland, Ireland, Germany, Japan… too many great countries really, how is one suppose to visit and enjoy them all ^_^ - oh and hell we start mixing up the rich and long histories of countries and things get way too fun, but yeah to sound like a broken record, most of my favorite countries are my favorite because they have people that aren't complacent or resting on laurels. If you ask them if they are great they think of the future and what should be, not the present and past and what is and was. They may seem cynical, they may seem too critical, negative and pessimistic, they may even be considered anti-patriotic. America has people like that (among other positives) so I like and appreciate it, I also think it gets an unfair reputation, regardless I'd rather live in Canada, Norway, Finland, Sweden, Brazil, Australia or Denmark though.

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#145 Posted by Diomedes (1 posts) - - Show Bio

@nerdork said:

@noahmaximillion said:

@supernategames said:

@squares:

Name a country that's better. America may not be that good, but it's better than all the others.

England, home of Sherlock and Dr Who (and the guys who play Superman and Spider-man)

I agree, I love the UK as a whole. Only been there a couple times. Once to visit my Irish mom’s birthplace, and distant family members, in Dublin and Dun Laoghaoire. Then again to visit England. Also a big fan of Italy…my dad's birthplace (Tuscany).

I do have to disagree with that last part, though. Andrew Garfield, IMO, is not something to brag about. He really didn’t pull off a Peter Parker vibe for me. Since when was Parker cool with his peers in high school? When was he a skateboarder? Why does he dress all hipster with his quaffed, yet messy, hair? The movie was great, but Garfield as Peter Parker was…meh, okay at best. His Spidey was pretty good, just not his Parker. McGuire is still the best Spiderman.

Dublin and the rest of the Republic of Ireland is not part of the UK. Only the 6 counties in Northern Ireland are.

#146 Edited by Vaeternus (9410 posts) - - Show Bio

Lol. Gotta love topics like these.

Sidenote. Anyone who thinks socialized or that canadian healthcare is better than usa needs a reality check.

#148 Posted by Ms_Majestic (29 posts) - - Show Bio

Yes it is.

#149 Posted by RedQueen (1171 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't believe in the existence of the "greatest country". The definitions of "great" vary way too much. Military power? History? Health benefits? E.t.c. e.t.c. As a note: Having military power does not equal "greatness".

#150 Posted by laflux (16796 posts) - - Show Bio

Kazakhstan is the greatest country in the world.