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#1 Posted by consolemaster001 (5124 posts) - - Show Bio

An interesting article i found:

If Hitler Won World War II We'd Have A Better, More Just World Today

By James Miller, PhD

Legendary U.S. General George S. Patton realized late in the war that the United States fought the wrong country. Patton felt the U.S. should have sided with Germany to destroy Jewish Bolshevik/Communist USSR. This information comes from Patton's diary entries, letters he wrote to his wife, and comments he made to military officers and staff.

If Hitler had won World War II

and then exercised a German 'Sphere of Influence' over the greater Western World

(just as the United States/International Jewry has done since the end of WWII) we'd have a more just, fair, and moral Western World today. The rest of the world would have similarly benefited had the Germans been victorious.

Had Hitler won World War II, what would be different in the post war world? Here are a few examples:

1 - No USSR (the Soviet government murdered millions of its own people during its 70 year reign - to study this topic read the writings of Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn; Hitler would have liberated the USSR, though taking large parts of its Western region for lebensraum, "living space")

2 - No cold war (because there would be

no USSR)

3 - No Communist Eastern Europe/Iron Curtain (when WWII ended, Eastern Europe fell to Communism - this was part of Stalin's spoils of war)

4 - No Red China and Mao's subsequent killing of 40 - 60 million Chinese (the USSR created favorable conditions for Mao's Communists which ultimately led to Mao's victory over Chiang Kai-shek's Nationalists in 1949, thus if no USSR, no Mao victory)

5 - No Communist North Vietnam (both the Soviet Union and Red China aided Ho Chi Minh)

6 - No Communist Cambodia and Pol Pot's slaughter of 2 million Cambodians (Red China aided Pol Pot)

7 - No dividing Korea into North Korea & South Korea (the allies split Korea after WWII ended, with North Korea becoming Communist... another of Stalin's spoils of war)

8 - No Communist Cuba (given the previous, what support would Castro have had in the 1950's?)

9 - No Communism anywhere

(Hitler was the world's most fervent anti-Communist)

10 - Liberalism & multiculturalism wouldn't dominate Western ethos (both are Jewish creations and both have always been heavily promoted/advanced by Jews; thus if no Jewish influence, then no liberalism and no multiculturalism... at least certainly nowhere near the degree we see today)

11 - No Cultural Marxism and no political correctness (these are social engineering "tools" which came out of the Jewish think tank known as the Frankfurt School)

12 - No third world immigration into Western nations (Jews wouldn't be in power positions to craft and force through liberal immigration laws; Jews are responsible for each Western nation's liberal immigration policy, as most were orchestrated by the World Jewish Congress)

13 - No depraved filth on TV, in movies, etc. (because Jews wouldn't run Hollywood)

14 - No widespread pornography (Jewish lawyers and Jewish activists were the main challengers of anti-obscenity laws, under the guise of "Freedom of Speech")

15 - There would still be prayer in public schools (Jewish lawyers were instrumental in banning prayer in public schools under the guise of so-called "separation of church and state," something that appears nowhere in the U.S. Constitution)

16 - No man-hating radical feminist movement (Jews such as Betty Friedan, Sonia Pressman, and Gloria Steinem, among others, were the key drivers of radical feminism)

17 - No Israel and all the problems it has brought the USA and the immeasurable misery it has wrought on the Palestinians

18 - Jews would be living in Madagascar (perhaps) and would be carefully monitored (Madagascar was one place Hitler considered as a Jewish homeland)

Many reading this will ask, "But what about the Holocaust?" The Holocaust has been grossly exaggerated by organized Jewry in order to create sympathy for Jews worldwide and thus help advance the Jewish agenda (i.e., people seen as victims tend to get their way). It is also used as a political weapon to justify Israeli militarism against the Palestinians. Hitler's Final Solution (rebranded in the early 1970's as the "Holocaust") was a plan to remove Jews from Europe, not to kill them. During WWII, just as the U.S. couldn't trust Japanese Americans, thus causing FDR to round many of them up and place them in concentration camps, Hitler couldn't trust Jews since many were partisans sympathetic to the USSR and hence they aided the USSR in various subversive, anti-German activities. Therefore the Nazis rounded up Jews and placed them in concentration camps.

Somewhere around one million Jews died during WWII (not six million) mostly due to disease and starvation in the final months of the war. Heavy Allied bombing of Germany and parts of German occupied Europe destroyed many roads, rail lines, and bridges making it impossible for Germany to adequately supply the camps with food and medicine. The result is that many Jews died of starvation and disease; and of course many non-Jews also died of starvation and disease (again, due to a massive Allied bombing campaign and its destruction of German transportation infrastructure). Lastly, there were no "gas chambers." Much has been written about this. To study the "gas chamber" subject, read the research papers published by Germar Rudolf & Carlo Mattogno (there are many others as well). To get a broad overview of the Holocaust, read my article,

http://immigration-globalization.blogspot.com/2011/11/what-was-holocaust-what-actually_23.html

It should also be noted that Hitler never wanted to "conquer the world." He simply wanted to safeguard Europe and the greater Western World from nefarious Jewish influence and safeguard the world from usurious Jewish banking.

Sadly, FDR and Churchill were puppets of International Jewry; each sold his soul for power and prestige. World War II was a war between two competing ideologies: Nationalism -vs- Jewish Bolshevik Internationalism/globalism -- and unfortunately International Jewry won.

Was World War II "the good war?" No, it was exactly the opposite. The Allied victory marked the beginning of the end of Western Civilization.

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#2 Posted by laflux (14945 posts) - - Show Bio
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#3 Posted by consolemaster001 (5124 posts) - - Show Bio

@laflux: Not sure, i don't know who this "James Miller" guy is or weather we can trust him or not.. Do you agree with this ?

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#4 Posted by Z3RO180 (6424 posts) - - Show Bio

That guys dumb

#5 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (32993 posts) - - Show Bio

What a load of pish

#6 Posted by consolemaster001 (5124 posts) - - Show Bio
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#7 Edited by Z3RO180 (6424 posts) - - Show Bio
#8 Edited by consolemaster001 (5124 posts) - - Show Bio
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#9 Posted by tikhunt (676 posts) - - Show Bio

He basically just wrote that Jews are bad and so is Communism.

#10 Edited by laflux (14945 posts) - - Show Bio

The idea of State-Pseudo Communism and Nazi Germany being really the lesser of two evils, is something which is up for debate. The idea of Diversity and Libertarian values is something which I hold fairly close to heart, so I wholesomely disagree with the notion that these are somehow negative.

The notion of Jews being responsible for many of the worlds calamities is also wrong. Though I'm of the opinion that Nazi Germany didn't create anti-antisemitism, they simply enhanced it. Pogroms were common place in the first part of the 20 century, and historically, it had always been Poland and Eastern Europe who were versed in this type of thing, than Germany.

The article definitely seems sympathetic to Nazi Germany, which I find somewhat disturbing, but it does raises some truths people people sometimes overlook. Stalin referred to the Eastern Europe as a Power vacuum after WW2, something which he intended to fill, and of course he did..........

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#11 Posted by consolemaster001 (5124 posts) - - Show Bio

@laflux: I believe that there is some truth to this article

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#12 Posted by Bruxae (13078 posts) - - Show Bio

Wheres that Michael Jackson eating popcorn gif when you need it?

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#13 Posted by laflux (14945 posts) - - Show Bio

@bruxae said:

Wheres that Michael Jackson eating popcorn gif when you need it?

Personally I prefer this one

but to each their own >:D

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#14 Posted by AweSam (7373 posts) - - Show Bio

@consolemaster001: How can you tell? Everytime he makes a point, he follows it up with a negative comment about Jewish people.

#15 Posted by consolemaster001 (5124 posts) - - Show Bio

@awesam:

1 - No USSR (the Soviet government murdered millions of its own people during its 70 year reign - to study this topic read the writings of Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn; Hitler would have liberated the USSR, though taking large parts of its Western region for lebensraum, "living space")

2 - No cold war (because there would be

no USSR)

3 - No Communist Eastern Europe/Iron Curtain (when WWII ended, Eastern Europe fell to Communism - this was part of Stalin's spoils of war)

4 - No Red China and Mao's subsequent killing of 40 - 60 million Chinese (the USSR created favorable conditions for Mao's Communists which ultimately led to Mao's victory over Chiang Kai-shek's Nationalists in 1949, thus if no USSR, no Mao victory)

5 - No Communist North Vietnam (both the Soviet Union and Red China aided Ho Chi Minh)

6 - No Communist Cambodia and Pol Pot's slaughter of 2 million Cambodians (Red China aided Pol Pot)

7 - No dividing Korea into North Korea & South Korea (the allies split Korea after WWII ended, with North Korea becoming Communist... another of Stalin's spoils of war)

8 - No Communist Cuba (given the previous, what support would Castro have had in the 1950's?)

9 - No Communism anywhere

(Hitler was the world's most fervent anti-Communist)

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#16 Edited by AweSam (7373 posts) - - Show Bio

@consolemaster001: A cold war would've happened with Germany and most likely America. To say that having the Axis win would prevent millions of deaths is just stupid. Do you know what the hollocaust is? Don't forget the countless rebellions and wars that would arise. Even more people would die. The worlds economies would fail in order to feed Germany's. Don't even get me started on Japan.

#17 Edited by Avenging-X-Bolt (12846 posts) - - Show Bio

f&*ck whoever wrote this.

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#18 Edited by Nerx (15088 posts) - - Show Bio

Amazing, same reason with Persians and the Greeks really.

Too bad they failed killing democracy during infancy.

AweSam

Don't even get me started on Japan.

Honorary Aryans by Hitler's own words and they did Nanking which was covered up by America for medical data. Colonized up to south east asia and generally did worse (yes I said it) to the chinese than what the germans did to the jews. Started pearl harbor because of internment camps which Germany respects them for.

#19 Edited by Dragonborn_CT (21615 posts) - - Show Bio

Oh my God...

#21 Edited by consolemaster001 (5124 posts) - - Show Bio
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#22 Edited by consolemaster001 (5124 posts) - - Show Bio

@judasnixon: Dude watch the f bombs

Also i love how you insult him with his title. :D

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#23 Posted by AweSam (7373 posts) - - Show Bio

@consolemaster001: I take that as a victory. To the waffle house!

@judasnixon: This is a family site.

#24 Posted by mrdecepticonleader (17801 posts) - - Show Bio

Wow the person who wrote this article is an ignorant fool. I could spend time refuting what he has said but I really dont feel like it. But I will just say he is an idiot and people who might agree with this article need to think why they do like really,really think about it.

#25 Edited by KnightRise (4785 posts) - - Show Bio

That's a load of anti-Semitic bullsh!t.

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As a person who come from jewish descent and lives in a multicultural city, James Miller, PhD can go f*ck himself........ Let me repeat that for you. James Miller, PHD can go f*ck himself. No seriously James Miller needs to go f*ck himself, talking about how great it would be to wipe out my mom's side of my family....... I hope that man drowns in his own sh!t.

This, minus the swearing, but still this.

#28 Posted by consolemaster001 (5124 posts) - - Show Bio

@mrdecepticonleader: @awesam: We were dedating ? Oh noes i forgot my debating shoes :(

(to mrdecep) Also ww2 was like a "whoever wins we lose scenario" for eastern europe.

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#29 Posted by judasnixon (6396 posts) - - Show Bio

@awesam: Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha....... What? The F-bombs offends you? But wiping out the jews might be a good idea is OK......

#30 Posted by consolemaster001 (5124 posts) - - Show Bio
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#31 Edited by AweSam (7373 posts) - - Show Bio

@judasnixon: Nothing offends me. I disagreed with the article, but their are children on this site... I think. Just watch the language, or I'll be forced to.... Well, do nothing about it.

@consolemaster001: Probably not. I just needed an excuse to go ti the waffle house.

#32 Posted by Nerx (15088 posts) - - Show Bio

@consolemaster001: his opinion is interesting, something along the lines of

'There is no such thing as a holocaust, it never happened. But it should have happened"

#33 Edited by mrdecepticonleader (17801 posts) - - Show Bio

@consolemaster001: Not really debating just saying that the article is steeped in ignorance.

So do you agree with this article if you do could you please tell me why you do.

#34 Posted by consolemaster001 (5124 posts) - - Show Bio
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#35 Posted by Vortex13 (12249 posts) - - Show Bio

It's not like the US was really the deciding factor of the war. In truth it was Russia. In the US in school you only learn about the US's involvement but the Germans would have lost even without out our help. Russia was freaking crushing them they were the deciding factor.

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@mrdecepticonleader: @judasnixon: We don't mind but a mod would.

(To mrdecep) not really. Except maybe the communism/israel parts

Could you maybe be a bit more specific maybe copy and paste which parts you agree with?

I just want to see because as I said this article is steeped in ignorance and I actually read a bit of his blog you linked and it made me eh a little angry I guess.

#37 Posted by joshmightbe (24875 posts) - - Show Bio

There is no way i can respond to this without using enough obsenity to get me banned so ill just say I strongly disagree with this article

#38 Edited by consolemaster001 (5124 posts) - - Show Bio

@mrdecepticonleader:

1 - No USSR (the Soviet government murdered millions of its own people during its 70 year reign - to study this topic read the writings of Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn; Hitler would have liberated the USSR, though taking large parts of its Western region for lebensraum, "living space")

2 - No cold war (because there would be

no USSR)

3 - No Communist Eastern Europe/Iron Curtain (when WWII ended, Eastern Europe fell to Communism - this was part of Stalin's spoils of war)

4 - No Red China and Mao's subsequent killing of 40 - 60 million Chinese (the USSR created favorable conditions for Mao's Communists which ultimately led to Mao's victory over Chiang Kai-shek's Nationalists in 1949, thus if no USSR, no Mao victory)

5 - No Communist North Vietnam (both the Soviet Union and Red China aided Ho Chi Minh)

6 - No Communist Cambodia and Pol Pot's slaughter of 2 million Cambodians (Red China aided Pol Pot)

7 - No dividing Korea into North Korea & South Korea (the allies split Korea after WWII ended, with North Korea becoming Communist... another of Stalin's spoils of war)

8 - No Communist Cuba (given the previous, what support would Castro have had in the 1950's?)

9 - No Communism anywhere

(Hitler was the world's most fervent anti-Communist)

17 - No Israel and all the problems it has brought the USA and the immeasurable misery it has wrought on the Palestinians

These are the parts.

Anyways Hitler was a man that dedicated his life to end communism so it's logical to think that if he'd won the war, communism would probably cease to exist (and israel)

@vortex13 The us and brits stopped stalin from expanding further into europe. So the world should be grateful for that.

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#39 Posted by Vortex13 (12249 posts) - - Show Bio

Oh and it's not like communism is really this great huge evil entity I'm tired of people thinking it is. It was the leaders of the countries that were bad not the actual entity of communism itself. As for that Veitnam comment that is just complete bull s##t. We didn't have to get involved in that one. Oh and how about us bombing Laos and Cambodia killing nearly a million people? Is that ok simply because we didn't agree with their political alinement? The US used Russia as this big bad evil county, there is a reason it is referred to as the Red Scare these days. Having people arrested or blacklisted because even if their was even the slightest indication that they may be communist sympathizers, not USSR sympathizers but communist sympathizers. The cold war is also known as a witch hunt today and with good reason. And honestly it's still going on today but instead of communism it's terrorism. It's the new red scare, except this time they actually can be dangerous. I'm not talking about terrorist themselves, f##k those guys, I'm talking about the idea of other people looking at people of a certain background with suspicion simply because of what they believe or where they were from, it's still a witch hunt and still a modern version of the red scare.

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@consolemaster001 said:

@mrdecepticonleader:

1 - No USSR (the Soviet government murdered millions of its own people during its 70 year reign - to study this topic read the writings of Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn; Hitler would have liberated the USSR, though taking large parts of its Western region for lebensraum, "living space")

2 - No cold war (because there would be

no USSR)

3 - No Communist Eastern Europe/Iron Curtain (when WWII ended, Eastern Europe fell to Communism - this was part of Stalin's spoils of war)

4 - No Red China and Mao's subsequent killing of 40 - 60 million Chinese (the USSR created favorable conditions for Mao's Communists which ultimately led to Mao's victory over Chiang Kai-shek's Nationalists in 1949, thus if no USSR, no Mao victory)

5 - No Communist North Vietnam (both the Soviet Union and Red China aided Ho Chi Minh)

6 - No Communist Cambodia and Pol Pot's slaughter of 2 million Cambodians (Red China aided Pol Pot)

7 - No dividing Korea into North Korea & South Korea (the allies split Korea after WWII ended, with North Korea becoming Communist... another of Stalin's spoils of war)

8 - No Communist Cuba (given the previous, what support would Castro have had in the 1950's?)

9 - No Communism anywhere

(Hitler was the world's most fervent anti-Communist)

17 - No Israel and all the problems it has brought the USA and the immeasurable misery it has wrought on the Palestinians

These are the parts.

Anyways Hitler was a man that dedicated his life to end communism so it's logical to think that if he'd won the war, communism would probably cease to exist (and israel)

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Hmm Id suggest doing some research into what communism actually is. Such as Marxism instead of just taking communism as been Stalinism or the USSR.

I doubt Hitler would have just let people live. If Hitler would have won the war then I reckon more people would have died, just look at the holocaust. He would have carried on. We would all be alot worse off. You have to bear in mind the person who wrote this article is a holocaust denier and a Nazi sympathizer. Meaning his opinion is very bias. And therefore the fact he is a holocaust denier this is a big reason he thinks the world would be better off if Nazi Germany won. But the simple fact is it wouldn't.

I really dont understand how Holocaust deniers can actually back what they say up. My mom and aunty went to a gas chamber in Germany and they could still smell the gas. Evidence so strong of such a tragedy yet people deny it. It is not only highly ignorant but disrespectful as well.

So yeah you need to bare in mind the person who wrote this article and their viewpoints. Do you agree with them for the reasons he has them?

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@consolemaster001 said:

@mrdecepticonleader:

1 - No USSR (the Soviet government murdered millions of its own people during its 70 year reign - to study this topic read the writings of Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn; Hitler would have liberated the USSR, though taking large parts of its Western region for lebensraum, "living space")

2 - No cold war (because there would be

no USSR)

3 - No Communist Eastern Europe/Iron Curtain (when WWII ended, Eastern Europe fell to Communism - this was part of Stalin's spoils of war)

4 - No Red China and Mao's subsequent killing of 40 - 60 million Chinese (the USSR created favorable conditions for Mao's Communists which ultimately led to Mao's victory over Chiang Kai-shek's Nationalists in 1949, thus if no USSR, no Mao victory)

5 - No Communist North Vietnam (both the Soviet Union and Red China aided Ho Chi Minh)

6 - No Communist Cambodia and Pol Pot's slaughter of 2 million Cambodians (Red China aided Pol Pot)

7 - No dividing Korea into North Korea & South Korea (the allies split Korea after WWII ended, with North Korea becoming Communist... another of Stalin's spoils of war)

8 - No Communist Cuba (given the previous, what support would Castro have had in the 1950's?)

9 - No Communism anywhere

(Hitler was the world's most fervent anti-Communist)

17 - No Israel and all the problems it has brought the USA and the immeasurable misery it has wrought on the Palestinians

These are the parts.

Anyways Hitler was a man that dedicated his life to end communism so it's logical to think that if he'd won the war, communism would probably cease to exist (and israel)

@vortex13 The us and brits stopped stalin from expanding further into europe. So the world should be grateful for that.

Oh yeah there is just that little bit of him killing as many Jews as he possibly could. You really think communism is this great evil don't you? It isn't the USSR was evil, not communism, and there would still be communism because it's not like China wouldn't be communist today if Russia wasn't. Also there is not a chance in hell that Hitler would have beaten Russia and the Brits could have easily kept Russia from expanding it dominion. I'm glad the US was involved, but the idea that the world would have been a better place with the axis powers winning just because it would eliminate communism (which it really wouldn't) and as for Israel, that's on the US. We set up that country because we didn't want them hear. We could have easily given them a place in the US but we didn't, instead we caused a s##t storm with the countries already there by taking land from them and making to form a new nation because we didn't want to deal with them. Lets not forget the boat full have east and central European Jews that came to the US during world war two before we got involved and didn't let them stay, we made them go back.

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#43 Posted by mrdecepticonleader (17801 posts) - - Show Bio
#44 Edited by consolemaster001 (5124 posts) - - Show Bio

@vortex13: I never said hitler's world would be better, calm down. Many people make the argument that communism is great and that all the communist nations were "doing it wrong". China wouldn't be communist because it'd be under japanese occupation or the nationalist forces would defeat them.

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#45 Edited by Ultra_beleco (184 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm pretty sure I would be unnable to have a boyfriend if Hittler won the WWII. Them again, not only I wouldn't have a boyfriend I woulf have been killed already.

I like how the author of the article says "better, more just world"

Well. If you are white, stright, male that would be true. But if the author is a white, straight male what the hell is he complaining about? Maybe he came from a poor family?

#46 Posted by Vortex13 (12249 posts) - - Show Bio

@vortex13: I never said hitler's world would be better, calm down. Many people make the argument that communism is great and that all the communist nations were "doing it wrong". China wouldn't be communist because it'd be under japanese occupation or the nationalist forces would defeat them.

I never said it was great, I just said it wasn't this absolute great evil that you seem to think it is. As for Japan defeating China for the sole purpose of eliminating communism... do you know what Japan was doing to POW's? They tortured many of them horribly, not even for information. I really want to know why you think communism is this great evil. Many of the countries that practiced it were there is no denying that, I don't think it's great at all seriously, I just want to know why the world would be better if it had not existed and Hitler was in charge. Because that aspect of it has to be recognized, this is an argument of why the world would have been better if the Axis powers had one, so you can not simply ignore the implications caused by what Hitler would have done in power.

@mrdecepticonleader: it's obvious that this is riddled and that aint cool so no

I'm not sure what's not cool about him pointing out what the guy who wrote this article's beliefs on the subject of the Holocaust is. It's a very valid and integral point to this discussion. How is it riddled, and what are you saying no to? I'm just curious.

Also I'm not really riled up. Just trying to debate and get where you are coming from.

#47 Edited by judasnixon (6396 posts) - - Show Bio

Hey James Miller, PhD! Here is some very wise words from a very brilliant jew.......

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@ultra_beleco said:

I'm pretty sure I would be unnable to have a boyfriend if Hittler won the WWII. Them again, not only I wouldn't have a boyfriend I woulf have been killed already.

I like how the author of the article says "better, more just world"

Well. If you are white, stright, male that would be true. But if the author is a white, straight male what the hell is he complaining about? Maybe he came from a poor family?

I would have probably been executed for being in an interracial relationship in high school. Or more likely I wouldn't have had met her because she would either be imprisoned or segregation would have been enforced by the Axis. For you it'd suck majorly since you wouldn't be allowed to date people you are attracted to at all.

#49 Posted by Vortex13 (12249 posts) - - Show Bio

Hey James Miller, PhD! Here is some very wise words from a very brilliant jew.......

LMAO!! Ok that was awesome lol.

#50 Posted by consolemaster001 (5124 posts) - - Show Bio

@vortex13: Are you trying to give me a bad image so you could have your little debate ?

Why are you bringing up japans treatment of POW's ? That is an irrelevant subject and i never said japan was good. China would be under japanese occupation and mao wouldn't succeed. And i meant that James Millers study was not cool because it was riddled with bias.

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