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#1  Edited By Joewell911

Ok so how bout we put a thing so that new users can't make threads. They'ed have to have to have at least 15 post before they can make there first thread. They can still post but no threads. This would really help on with spam bots, i mean think about it. No more spam bots. I can really see any thing bad about it except it would probably make the new guys mad but most of them make bad first threads any way ( i did ) so this would help them get used to the board before making a thread

Good idea or bad?

If a good then tell a mod

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#2  Edited By JediXMan  Moderator

You're, I think, the fourth guy including myself to have mentioned that today.

I've been saying this for a long time.

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#3  Edited By _Zombie_

Doubt it'll get changed, considering the staff seems firm on defending the useless post count, but a topic limit would be a far superior counter-measure to spam.

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#4  Edited By Chaos Prime

@JediXMan said:

You're, I think, the fourth guy including myself to have mentioned that today.

I've been saying this for a long time.

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#5  Edited By Inverno

Agreed. Only instead of 15 posts should be 100...

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#6  Edited By JediXMan  Moderator

@CaioTrubat said:

Agreed. Only instead of 15 posts should be 100...

Sounds good.

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#7  Edited By JediXMan  Moderator

@ZombieBigfoot said:

Doubt it'll get changed, considering the staff seems firm on defending the useless post count, but a topic limit would be a far superior counter-measure to spam.

QFT.

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#8  Edited By Joewell911

@CaioTrubat said:

Agreed. Only instead of 15 posts should be 100...

But real new people need to learn from experience, and if they can't make threads then they can't learn

Beside most of the spam-bots only get one or two threads in then they get banned

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#9  Edited By _Zombie_

@CaioTrubat said:

Agreed. Only instead of 15 posts should be 100...

100 seems excessive. I say 30, at the most.

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#10  Edited By Joewell911

OMG BUMP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Keep this alive

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#11  Edited By laflux

@joewell said:

@CaioTrubat said:

Agreed. Only instead of 15 posts should be 100...

But real new people need to learn from experience, and if they can't make threads then they can't learn

Beside most of the spam-bots only get one or two threads in then they get banned

True. The Mods are doing the best they can. And also I think that our behavior to new recruits needs to change. Rather than abuse them and fill the threads with IBLs, we should tell were they have gone wrong, cause often its genuine mistakes (Kratos threads- new people, including me in the past overrate the character so much its not funny).

Its sad really, when you think about it.

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#12  Edited By Joewell911

@laflux said:

@joewell said:

Agreed. Only instead of 15 posts should be 100...

But real new people need to learn from experience, and if they can't make threads then they can't learn

Beside most of the spam-bots only get one or two threads in then they get banned

True. The Mods are doing the best they can. And also I think that our behavior to new recruits needs to change. Rather than abuse them and fill the threads with IBLs, we should tell were they have gone wrong, cause often its genuine mistakes (Kratos threads- new people, including me in the past overrate the character so much its not funny).

Its sad really, when you think about it.

Yeah people are mean to new peopel

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#13  Edited By Chaos Prime

@joewell said:

OMG BUMP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Keep this alive

we need to bump the most popular post in the OP imo..lets get working!!!

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@ZombieBigfoot said:

@CaioTrubat said:

Agreed. Only instead of 15 posts should be 100...

100 seems excessive. I say 30, at the most.

agreed with this statement

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#15  Edited By laflux

@joewell said:

@laflux said:

@joewell said:

Agreed. Only instead of 15 posts should be 100...

But real new people need to learn from experience, and if they can't make threads then they can't learn

Beside most of the spam-bots only get one or two threads in then they get banned

True. The Mods are doing the best they can. And also I think that our behavior to new recruits needs to change. Rather than abuse them and fill the threads with IBLs, we should tell were they have gone wrong, cause often its genuine mistakes (Kratos threads- new people, including me in the past overrate the character so much its not funny).

Its sad really, when you think about it.

Yeah people are mean to new peopel

In the end, your only stopping new people from wanting to join.

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#16  Edited By Mercy_

@laflux said:

And also I think that our behavior to new recruits needs to change. Rather than abuse them and fill the threads with IBLs, we should tell were they have gone wrong, cause often its genuine mistakes (Kratos threads- new people, including me in the past overrate the character so much its not funny).

This drives me crazy.

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#17  Edited By artgamer

and what about just add a captcha to the new users or close the registration for a while <--- this is unfair but is the best

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#18  Edited By Joewell911

@Mercy_: What?

Like the idea?

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#19  Edited By JediXMan  Moderator

@joewell said:

@CaioTrubat said:

Agreed. Only instead of 15 posts should be 100...

But real new people need to learn from experience, and if they can't make threads then they can't learn

Beside most of the spam-bots only get one or two threads in then they get banned

They'll learn by observation.

@laflux said:

@joewell said:

@CaioTrubat said:

Agreed. Only instead of 15 posts should be 100...

But real new people need to learn from experience, and if they can't make threads then they can't learn

Beside most of the spam-bots only get one or two threads in then they get banned

True. The Mods are doing the best they can. And also I think that our behavior to new recruits needs to change. Rather than abuse them and fill the threads with IBLs, we should tell were they have gone wrong, cause often its genuine mistakes (Kratos threads- new people, including me in the past overrate the character so much its not funny).

Its sad really, when you think about it.

This is true, too. I say that as someone who was / is harsh on newbies. I try to be helpful when I can be. It's the... rather aggressively over zealous ones that I have little tolerance for.

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#20  Edited By JediXMan  Moderator

@ArtGamer said:

and what about just add a captcha to the new users or close the registration for a while <--- this is unfair but is the best

Closing registration for a couple of days would be a good idea.

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#21  Edited By mr_ingenuity  Moderator  Online

We could just offer up one user a week to the spam gods.

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#22  Edited By JediXMan  Moderator

@Mercy_ said:

@laflux said:

And also I think that our behavior to new recruits needs to change. Rather than abuse them and fill the threads with IBLs, we should tell were they have gone wrong, cause often its genuine mistakes (Kratos threads- new people, including me in the past overrate the character so much its not funny).

This drives me crazy.

What? The way vet users treat new users or new users overrating characters?

For the latter: agreed.

Former: I'm working on it, I'm working on it... old habits die hard...

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#23  Edited By laflux

@Mercy_: I myself was guilty of this in the past to be truthful. But it really doesn't achieve anything. Its often people just trying to display cynicism and sarcasm as a substitute for wisdom and knowledge- or just trying to get a laugh. And I've found that there is no positive correlation between people who do this and their debating skills as well.

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#24  Edited By Joewell911

@Mr_Ingenuity said:

We could just offer up one user a week to the spam gods.

Not it :P

hope that works

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#25  Edited By laflux

@JediXMan: No I mean new users. I overestimated Kratos alot when I was new, I put him up against Zeus IIRC correctly, and against Hercules with no weapons, just H2H.

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#26  Edited By mr_ingenuity  Moderator  Online

@joewell: Funny thing is, you were first on my list. ◔_◔

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#27  Edited By pooty

You can't post until you change your profile picture or create a profile. this may also help stop trolls also.

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#28  Edited By Joewell911

@Mr_Ingenuity said:

Funny thing is, you were first on my list. ◔_◔

What list?

oh, NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

at least let them have The Terminator alts

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#29  Edited By mr_ingenuity  Moderator  Online

Add you can't create more than three threads a week until level 10.

Or back to this.

@Mr_Ingenuity said:

We could just offer up one user a week to the spam gods.

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#30  Edited By The_Roman

@joewell said:

@Mr_Ingenuity said:

Funny thing is, you were first on my list. ◔_◔

What list?

oh, NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

at least let them have The Terminator alts

Give them Asus.

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#31  Edited By mr_ingenuity  Moderator  Online

@joewell said:

@Mr_Ingenuity said:

Funny thing is, you were first on my list. ◔_◔

What list?

oh, NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

at least let them have The Terminator alts

I like those ALT so you must go. Hahahah (•‿•)

@The_Roman said:

@joewell said:

@Mr_Ingenuity said:

Funny thing is, you were first on my list. ◔_◔

What list?

oh, NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

at least let them have The Terminator alts

Give them Asus.

The death panel will discuss that.

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#32  Edited By The_Roman

@Mr_Ingenuity: But he suggested ten T-800s would kill Superman.

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#33  Edited By JediXMan  Moderator

@laflux said:

@JediXMan: No I mean new users. I overestimated Kratos alot when I was new, I put him up against Zeus IIRC correctly, and against Hercules with no weapons, just H2H.

I meant Mercy. I know what you meant... and I essentially know what she meant, too.

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#34  Edited By mr_ingenuity  Moderator  Online

@The_Roman: I will have to discuss that with the death panel, maybe the ALT will make the first 20.

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#35  Edited By The_Roman

@Mr_Ingenuity:Nods. I respect and honour the death panel. That said, is the death panel accepting new applicants?

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#36  Edited By mr_ingenuity  Moderator  Online

@The_Roman said:

@Mr_Ingenuity:Nods. I respect and honour the death panel. That said, is the death panel accepting new applicants?

See third post fourth page.

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#37  Edited By Xanni15

This would seem to hurt RPG'ers a lot, plus let's not act as if veteran members are immune to making useless or awful threads.

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#38  Edited By JediXMan  Moderator

@Xanni15 said:

This would seem to hurt RPG'ers a lot, plus let's not act as if veteran members are immune to making useless or awful threads.

A lot of RPGers are more bothered by the post restriction than thread restrictions.

And, yes, vets make some bad threads. We just make less bad threads (that said, as a "vet," I don't make very many threads as it is. It's rare, aside from my review blogs). It's not about that; it's about limiting spamming. Topic restrictions would help a great deal.

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#39  Edited By Samimista

@JediXMan said:

@CaioTrubat said:

Agreed. Only instead of 15 posts should be 100...

Sounds good.

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#40  Edited By Xanni15

@JediXMan said:

@Xanni15 said:

This would seem to hurt RPG'ers a lot, plus let's not act as if veteran members are immune to making useless or awful threads.

A lot of RPGers are more bothered by the post restriction than thread restrictions.

And, yes, vets make some bad threads. We just make less bad threads (that said, as a "vet," I don't make very many threads as it is. It's rare, aside from my review blogs). It's not about that; it's about limiting spamming. Topic restrictions would help a great deal.

I can't say for sure either way, I've never asked them butt from what I have seen there are a lot of accounts with very few posts to create thread ideas, I guess RPG's. You're knowledgeable regarding this site so I'll take your word for it.

Maybe in certain forums then, but a lot of new members might need assistance and the mods already have enough on their plate without having to answer multiple PM's. I'm not completely against the idea of a minimum post count before being able to post but where does it end? The spammers will find a way around that and do we continuously raise the lowest amount needed. It looks like some believe spammers are a bigger concern than welcoming newer members.

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#41  Edited By JediXMan  Moderator

@Xanni15:

Unfortunately, yes, the spammers are a bigger concern. New users won't matter one bit if there is no site left for the users to post in. That's the bottom line.

Having new users is all fine and dandy, but if the boards are such a mess that they can't post and the older users outright leave, then it's pointless. Solve the spamming first.

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#42  Edited By ReVamp

@joewell said:

If a good then tell a mod

@JediXMan said:

You're, I think, the fourth guy including myself to have mentioned that today.

I've been saying this for a long time.

Yeah, this has been PM'd to the staff at least once. Probably more, considering how many people support it.

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#43  Edited By nick_hero22

@ZombieBigfoot said:

@CaioTrubat said:

Agreed. Only instead of 15 posts should be 100...

100 seems excessive. I say 30, at the most.

No 500 posts

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#44  Edited By nick_hero22

@ReVamp said:

@joewell said:

If a good then tell a mod

@JediXMan said:

You're, I think, the fourth guy including myself to have mentioned that today.

I've been saying this for a long time.

Yeah, this has been PM'd to the staff at least once. Probably more, considering how many people support it.

I sent Babs a link to some threads where me and other users expressed our views on how to improve this site, a lot of these ideas were included.

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#45  Edited By Xanni15

@JediXMan said:

@Xanni15:

Unfortunately, yes, the spammers are a bigger concern. New users won't matter one bit if there is no site left for the users to post in. That's the bottom line.

Having new users is all fine and dandy, but if the boards are such a mess that they can't post and the older users outright leave, then it's pointless. Solve the spamming first.

I change my mind, I completely agree with it.