I don't hate religion, but this guy is beyond stupid.

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Now, I am by no means a hater of religion, but this a whole new level of stupid. Even a person of my average intelligence can see the humongous flaws in this guy's thinking and argumentation.

His explanation of the Laws of Thermodynamics is wrong, specifically the second law revolving around entropy.

His explanation on scientific theory and evolution is asinine, and really spits in the face of logic.

His attempt to sound intelligent by making up the root word for Universe was also pretty sad.

But what is most particularly distressing is the fact this guy genuinely believes in what he is spouting and there are people out there who believe him as well.

So sad when people take allegorical stories literally...

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My question is why anyone should care what this guy has to say?

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My question is why anyone should care what this guy has to say?

This guy actually has a huge following on facebook and youtube. I mainly brought this up because he appeared on my facebook page and some people I know were actually agreeing with what he said.

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My question is why anyone should care what this guy has to say?

Are you religious?

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So sad when people take allegorical stories literally...

Are you trying to bait?

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Dude's an idiot, don't take it personally. He's too far gone.

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@eisenfauste:

No, that was never my intention. I have no problems with people's belief in God or his existence. It's when people read the Bible and take what is said within as literal truth and not some form of allegory, meant to teach a lesson.

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#15  Edited By Wolverine008

@omgomgwtfwtf: I just try not to pay silly people any mind. It's what they want at the end of the day.

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As a religous person, this dude is stupid.

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#18  Edited By Wolverine008

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@wolverine08 said:

@farkam: Yes.

No wonder you get so defensive when religion is criticized.

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You're grasping for straws buddy. My initial post asked why anyone should care what this man had to say. I'm not bothered by religion being criticized, I see it every day. I just don't see the point in giving clowns like these attention. It's what they want.

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@farkam said:

@wolverine08 said:

@farkam: Yes.

No wonder you get so defensive when religion is criticized.

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You're grasping for straws buddy. My initial post asked why anyone should care what this man had to say. I'm not bothered by religion being criticized, I see it every day. I just don't see the point in giving clowns like these attention. It's what they want.

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@farkam said:

@wolverine08 said:

@farkam: Yes.

No wonder you get so defensive when religion is criticized.

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You're grasping for straws buddy. My initial post asked why anyone should care what this man had to say. I'm not bothered by religion being criticized, I see it every day. I just don't see the point in giving clowns like these attention. It's what they want.

I'm not grasping at anything buddy. You do get noticeably defensive in religion related threads. If you want to deny that that's fine with me. Just my own observance.

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@farkam said:

@wolverine08 said:

@farkam said:

@wolverine08 said:

@farkam: Yes.

No wonder you get so defensive when religion is criticized.

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You're grasping for straws buddy. My initial post asked why anyone should care what this man had to say. I'm not bothered by religion being criticized, I see it every day. I just don't see the point in giving clowns like these attention. It's what they want.

I'm not grasping at anything buddy. You do get noticeably defensive in religion related threads. If you want to deny that that's fine with me. Just my own observance.

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So you follow me in religious threads now? And I'm not sure how you'd notice me getting defensive when I really visit religion based threads on off topic?(As evidence by my posting history) Your observance is just you poking at something that isn't there just to get reaction.

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@farkam said:

@wolverine08 said:

@farkam said:

@wolverine08 said:

@farkam: Yes.

No wonder you get so defensive when religion is criticized.

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You're grasping for straws buddy. My initial post asked why anyone should care what this man had to say. I'm not bothered by religion being criticized, I see it every day. I just don't see the point in giving clowns like these attention. It's what they want.

I'm not grasping at anything buddy. You do get noticeably defensive in religion related threads. If you want to deny that that's fine with me. Just my own observance.

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So you follow me in religious threads now? And I'm not sure how you'd notice me getting defensive when I really visit religion based threads on off topic?(As evidence by my posting history) Your observance is just you poking at something that isn't there just to get reaction.

Proving my point effortlessly.

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@farkam said:

@wolverine08 said:

@farkam said:

@wolverine08 said:

@farkam said:

@wolverine08 said:

@farkam: Yes.

No wonder you get so defensive when religion is criticized.

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You're grasping for straws buddy. My initial post asked why anyone should care what this man had to say. I'm not bothered by religion being criticized, I see it every day. I just don't see the point in giving clowns like these attention. It's what they want.

I'm not grasping at anything buddy. You do get noticeably defensive in religion related threads. If you want to deny that that's fine with me. Just my own observance.

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So you follow me in religious threads now? And I'm not sure how you'd notice me getting defensive when I really visit religion based threads on off topic?(As evidence by my posting history) Your observance is just you poking at something that isn't there just to get reaction.

Proving my point effortlessly.

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HAHAHHAH. no. Guys crazy. We gotta eliminate him.

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Now, I am by no means a hater of religion, but this a whole new level of stupid. Even a person of my average intelligence can see the humongous flaws in this guy's thinking and argumentation.

His explanation of the Laws of Thermodynamics is wrong, specifically the second law revolving around entropy.

His explanation on scientific theory and evolution is asinine, and really spits in the face of logic.

His attempt to sound intelligent by making up the root word for Universe was also pretty sad.

But what is most particularly distressing is the fact this guy genuinely believes in what he is spouting and there are people out there who believe him as well.

So sad when people take allegorical stories literally...

In your view, what does the Second Law of Thermodynamics essentially say, if his statement about the Second Law of Thermodynamics is wrong? He's talking about the process of entropy; I studied thermodynamics, as well as a more advanced version called statistical thermodynamics.

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#28  Edited By iaconpoint

@wolverine08: settle down brah, you don't have to jump out the window every time someone posts stuff like this. Geez you've got that little gif on speed dial, but it's just irra-tainment. This douchier is posting from his vehicle, with his cap on backwards with faux indignation. No way is anyone with a mind of their own taking him seriously, but he's still fun to watch and laugh at, like the Three Stooges.

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#29  Edited By OmgOmgWtfWtf

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After rereading what I wrote, I think I may have been misleading. The law of thermodynamics isn't incorrect, it's the guys interpretation of it in regards to evolution. He says it contradicts it because it goes from a "chaotic" state into an "orderly" state. However, he is disregarding the fact that Earth in itself is not an isolated system. He also ignores the fact that the second law applies to the entire system, and not necessarily to parts of said system. Just because one part of it is "orderly", doesn't mean the whole system is following suit.

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#30  Edited By dshipp17

@omgomgwtfwtf said:

@dshipp17:

After rereading what I wrote, I think I may have been misleading. The law of thermodynamics isn't incorrect, it's the guys interpretation of it in regards to evolution. He says it contradicts it because it goes from a "chaotic" state into an "orderly" state. However, he is disregarding the fact that Earth in itself is not an isolated system. He also ignores the fact that the second law applies to the entire system, and not necessarily to parts of said system. Just because one part of it is "orderly", doesn't mean the whole system is following suit.

I believe he said it goes from order to chaos, which would be entropy. We can both hear the video again, I think. When talking about order to chaos, I believe he was going from the Big Bang, more than the Earth itself, and speaking at the microscopic level, instead of the macroscopic level, as in the Earth as a whole; evolution does start at the microscopic to explaining stuff that we see at the macroscopic level; I believe he's saying that entropy would defeat the purpose of evolution, after so much time.

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@dshipp17:

He said that evolution contradicted the second law because it went from a chaotic state into an orderly state. But he is disregarding the fact that the Earth is not an isolated system and just because part of the system is becoming more orderly, it doesn't mean that the system in its entirety is going in the same direction. The second law of thermodynamics says that the total entropy of a whole system must increase, not the entropy for every part of the system.

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#33  Edited By dshipp17

@omgomgwtfwtf said:

@dshipp17:

He said that evolution contradicted the second law because it went from a chaotic state into an orderly state. But he is disregarding the fact that the Earth is not an isolated system and just because part of the system is becoming more orderly, it doesn't mean that the system in its entirety is going in the same direction. The second law of thermodynamics says that the total entropy of a whole system must increase, not the entropy for every part of the system.

Oh, I see now; he's talking about the scattered molecules reaching an ordered state; I think what he's hinting at, is would you expect a bomb explosion to eventually yield orderly molecules, after a given period of time; entropy deals with the equilibrium of the system; what happens when you charge your cell phone battery too long on too many different occasions? Simply because he may have said something slightly out of place doesn't mean that he said something that was absurd, as your title would suggest. That approach just confuses people without a science background and makes them feel embolden about believing that Christianity has been somehow totally debunked by science, when the opposite is true, more that science starts to examine Christianity.

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Both atheists and theists have idiots, no group is exempt.

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This is byfar the most ammusing thread I saw all week.

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This dude's an idiot, but he is a good speaker, and people tend to attract to good speakers.

*So did "God" only create our Universe (What we consider it to be? can he prove that ours is the only one)? or does "God" do a lot of talking (meaning he doesn't just love us)? or are there other gods out there creating other Universes? hmm could end up being Polytheistic ideas.

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He is hurting his cause more than helping it, just because people are going to try to distance there self from him.

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#39  Edited By OmgOmgWtfWtf

@dshipp17:

My real problem with this guy is not his belief, but the fact that he's expounds it like it was the absolute truth. His entire argument is predicated upon multiple logical fallacies and incorrect information. For example, the etiology of the word universe plays no role in explaining the creation of the universe, nor is his explanation of the word's origin even true. He tried explaining that the origin of the word universe is uni+verse, which according to him meant "one spoken statement", and that somehow alluded to God creating the universe. However, his etiology is incorrect, the word universe is derived from the Latin word universus, which meant "all into one". The word universus could further be broken down into uni + versus, which meant literally "having turned into one".

I also had a problem with his evolution and tornado analogy. It falsely presented evolution as this seamless process, which somehow created something entirely out of nothing in an instant. I believe he compared it to a tornado entering a junkyard and creating a Lamborghini from the ensuing chaos. He completely ignored the process of natural selection, which is fundamental to evolution. To be frank his entire line of argumentation was wrought with ambiguity, personal incredulity, special pleading, strawman, and loaded questions. I do not have a problem with people who believe differently or have beliefs different from my own. However, I do have a problem when people spread false information around and proclaim it as the only truth out there, whether its science or religion.

I think everyone should have a healthy amount of skepticism when presented any information, but it is clear to me that this guy did no research on his part in regards to the subject matter.

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Most of the Bible is supposed to be taken literally unless it is pretty obvious that it is symbolic. Most Creation "Scientists" mainly try to argue is the Book of Genesis specifically the first 5 chapters. The problem with Genesis (at least until you get to Abraham) is the it is pretty ambiguous and can be interpreted in a lot of different ways, but the accounts are not supposed to be fables.

For example, it states that God created the Earth in 6 days and the 7th day he rested. So does this mean the earth is ~6000 years old? Or maybe it means 7 days in God's time. It does say, I believe it is the Psalms, that a day to God is like a thousand years. So, a day passing to a being that is outside of space and time could be millions of years.

Not all Christians think the same. In fact, when the Creation Museum opened in Petersburg, KY. Some of the main protesters were pastor and laypeople from mainline congregations.

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Hey look, Dom DeLuise is being chauffeured around while he talks pseudo science. Neat!

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Both atheists and theists have idiots, no group is exempt.

HAHAHHAH. no. Guys crazy. We gotta eliminate him.

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As a religous person, this dude is stupid.

These, these and SO MUCH these!

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@farkam said:

@wolverine08 said:

@farkam said:

@wolverine08 said:

@farkam: Yes.

No wonder you get so defensive when religion is criticized.

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You're grasping for straws buddy. My initial post asked why anyone should care what this man had to say. I'm not bothered by religion being criticized, I see it every day. I just don't see the point in giving clowns like these attention. It's what they want.

I'm not grasping at anything buddy. You do get noticeably defensive in religion related threads. If you want to deny that that's fine with me. Just my own observance.

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So you follow me in religious threads now? And I'm not sure how you'd notice me getting defensive when I really visit religion based threads on off topic?(As evidence by my posting history) Your observance is just you poking at something that isn't there just to get reaction.

I speaking honestly brah, and tbh you do :P

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God created Evolution. BOOM everyone wins! :D

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#47  Edited By AweSam

@the_stegman said:

God created Evolution. BOOM everyone wins! :D

Only creationists.

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@laflux:

I speaking honestly brah, and tbh you do :P

You're not going to rustle me.

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