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#1 Edited by Pr_Beyonder (2440 posts) - - Show Bio


Inspired by the power levels read from scouters in Dbz. 
 I spent a long time calculating these,by researching canon  dbz feats and astronomy
  
 
POWER LEVEL  REQUIRE FOR:
Destruction(1 shot)(including everything insaid area not just the significant stuff :p)

Earth:10,000 
  
Sun: 3,300,000,000  

Solar System 990,000,000,000,000  

Milky Way: 3,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000  

Observeable Universe: 3,400,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000  
,000,000,000,000  

Universes Size by recent estimates: 5,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 
,000,000,000,000,000  
 

 
TOTAL DIMENSIONAL DESTRUCTION:(not even matter left :c   ) 

The size of a standard door: 
40,000,000,000,000 

Earth  

:10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000  

Sun: 
330,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000  

Milky Way: 
990,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 
,000,000,000  

 Observeable Universe: 
340,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 
,000,000,000 ,000 ,000,000,000,000,000,000  

Universe totally (assuming the edges would require alot more power) : 5,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 
,000,000,000,000 ,000,000,000,000,000 ,000,000,000 
 
  

Characters:(short list)
 
 

Raditz:1,200 
Nappa:6,000 
Goku:over 8,000 ---16,000----24,000----32,000
Vegeta:18,000---180,000 
 
 

Vegeta:24,000---35,000----350,000---,2,250,000- 
Cui:18,500
Dodoria:20,000 
Zarbon:22,000------30,000
Goku: 90,000 ---180,000----3,000,000-----30,000,000(Kiao ken x10)---150,000,000(ssj)  
Recoome:48,000 
Jeice:42,000 
Burter:42,000 
Guldo:800
  
Ginyu: 120,000
Frieza: 530,000---1,200,000--2,400,000---3,200,000---60,000,000---120,000,000 
 
Andriod 17: 580,000,000 
Andriod 18: 570,000,000 
 
 
 
(I'll work on more characters later :P) 
 
 
 
The Longer list (will recieve periodic add ons.) 
 
DB: 
Goku: 50 
Bulma:4 
Pterodactal:20 
Turtle:0.001 
Bear Bandit: 30 
Master Roshi : 80 
Oolong: 3 
Yamcha:40 
Puor: 2 
Tyrannasaurus Rex: 35 
Ox King:60 
Chi Chi:35 
Roshi(Full power) 120 
Kamehameha: 250 
Rabbit Mobsters : 7 
Boss Rabbit :20 
Shu: 4 
Mai: 8 
Great Ape (oozaru) Goku : 500 
Launch( Blonde) : 12 
Launch: (Normal): 3 
Goku(Tail removed) :40 
Bacterian:13 
Krillin: 65 
Yamcha:55 
Jackie Chun( Master Roshi) post training:95 
Ranfan:30 
Nam:70 
Goku:80 
Giran:60 
Oozaru Goku: 800 
Jackie Chun Full power: 140 
Kamehameha: 300 
 
 
Col Silver: 27.5 
Major Matallitron:80 
Murasaki: 35 (but skilled ^^ ) 
Andriod 8: 100 
Buyon: 75 
Col White: 15 
Kick Boxer : 10 
Pirate Bot: 85 
Gen Blue: 70 
Bora:60  
Upa:3
Mercenary Tao: 110 
Korin: 160 
Goku( after Korin's training) 130  
General Red: 10 
Officer Black (yeah it's a black guy):20 
Officer Black in battle bot: 100  
Fang:65 
Invisable Man :40  
Mummy:85 
Yamcha:70 
Devil Man:95 
Grandpa Gohan:125 
King Chappa: 85 
Yamcha:90 
Chiatozu:95  
Pamput:50 
Jackie Chun: 145 
Krillin:115 
Tien:180 
Goku:180 
 Tri Beam-230 
Kamehameha:200 
 
 
Tambourine:186 
Goku (tired  and hungry) 100 
Goku( Zenkai and normal): 195 
Yajirobe:190 
Cymbal:170 
Yamcha *injured: 20 
Goku Kamehameha: 250 
Chiatzou: 100 
Piano:20 
Roshi:140 
King Piccolo(old): 205 
King Piccolo(young): 220 
Bora:80 
Yajirobe:(after climbing Korin tower) 195 
Goku(divine water) :260 
TeinShinhan: 180 
Drum: 190 
King Piccolo (Full power)  260 
* tired 235 
Goku(final attack on Piccolo) :300 
Yajirobe 2nd climb :200 
Popo:285 
Kami:290 
Krillin:112.5 
Roshi:190 
Tsuru Sennin:170 
Master Mutatito: 215 
Cyborg Tao: 210 
Chi Chi :137 
Piccolo Jr:320 
Gaint Piccolo: 640 
Goku:330 
Super Kamehameha:800 
Piccolo's Blast 900 
 
Farmer w/shotgun:5
Raditz: 1200   
Gohan(freaked out):710
Piccolo:(weighted)322 
Goku(weighted):334 
Piccolo:408 
Goku:416 
Kamehameha: 975 
Special Beam Canon 1st: 1330 
Gohan:(angry) :1307 
Gohan:(attacking) : 1370  
Gohan:(normal): 1 
2nd Special Beam Canon: 1440 
 
Roshi (after stopping training): 139 
Krillin:206 
turtle: .001 
tien:250 
Yamcha:177 
Piccolo:329 
Yamcha+Tien+Chiatzou+Krillin+ Yamcha(while fighting illusion saiyans) :1507 
King Yama: 2400 
King Kai:3500  
Bubbles:1000 
Gregory:1500

 

Gohan: 981(supressed)  
Piccolo:1,220 (supressed)
Krillin:1,083 (supressed)
Saibamen:1200 
Yamcha (in combat:) 1480 
Tein(in combat) 1,830 
Tein(Tri Beam) 3900 
Yamcha's kamehameha:1900 
Krillin's blast 1,770 
Piccolo's Special Beam Cannon :3,500  
Gohan (in combat) 1,083
Gohans Masenko:2800 
Nappa (Relaxed): 4,000 
Nappa (powered up): 6,000  

Goku: 8,160 
Kaio Ken/kaio ken x2: 16,320
Kaio Kenx3: 26,480 
Kaio Kenx4 :34,640  
KamehameHa X4(short charging time) : 50,000 
 Spirit Bomb: 20,000
 
Vegeta: 18,000 
Galick Gun:32,000
Oozaru/Great Ape Vegeta: 180,000 
 
Yajirobe:580 
Oozaru/Great Ape Gohan: 10,830 
 
 
 Arrival on Namek............ 
 
Krillin:1,400 
Gohan:1,500 
Namekian warriors:1,000-3,000 
 
Kiwi/Cui :18.500 
Vegeta:24,000  
 
 
Goku(healed) 18,500
 
Dodoria:22,000 
Zarbon: 23,000  
Zarbon(monster): 32,000 
 
Vegeta(zenkai) 35,000 
Krillin:14,000 
Gohan:15,000 
 
Guldo:800 
Recoome:48,000 
Jeice:45,000 
Burter: 45,000  
 
Goku:90,000 
 
Captin Ginyu: 120,000 
 
Goku (kaio ken) 180,000 
 
 
Ginyu(Goku's body) 23,000  
 
Nail:42,000 
 
Frieza (1st form) :530,000  
Frieza powered up: 662,500
Frieza 2nd Form: 1,325,000
 
Vegeta:(zenkai) 350,000 
 
Piccolo: 3,000 
Piccolo(fused w/nail)(weights): 1,200,000 
 Piccolo without weights: 1,500,000 
 
Frieza(3rd form): 2,650,000 
Frieza (Final Form)(2% full power) :3,200,000 
Vegeta(Zenkai):2,100,000  

Goku(PIS Zenkai) 3,000,000 
 Frieza (50% and tired from battle): 60,000,000 
Goku Kaio Ken X10: 30,000,000 
KamehameHa: 53,000,000 
 
Spirit Bomb: 90,000,000 
 
Goku(Super Saiyan) 150,000,000 
Frieza(100% and tired from battle): 120,000,000 
Frieza (like anakin after fighting obi wan) :12,000,000 
 
Chi Chi mist powered: 850  
Piccolo (weights) 1,450,000 
 
Vinegar: 300,000 
Spice 330,000
 
Piccolo (without weights) 1,812,500 
Yamcha( mist powered) : 370,000 
Salt:250,000 
 
Gohan:500,000  
Krillin:170,000 
 
Garlic Jr:650,000 
Garlic Jr(Full power): 1,300,000 
 
Spice: 660,000 
Vinegar: 600,000 
Gohan(Rage power): 2,500,000 
 
Piccolo( Bulked up):2,265,250 
Piccolo(Kami dying): 1,812.5 
Piccolo(fading away) 1.8125
 
Garlic Jr (Full power w/Makeyo Star) 2,600,000 
Gohan(enraged masenko) 3,750,000 
  
Vegeta:2,800,000 
Trunks:3,300,000 
Ssj Trunks: 165,000,000  
6 million dollar Frieza:(2%) :3,200,000 
King Cold: 64,000,000 
 

Yamcha:37,000  
Tien:183,000 
 
Goku: 4,500,000 
Ssj Goku:225,000,000 
  
 
3 years later....  

 Yamcha:390,000
Tien: 1,830,000  
Goku:11,250,000 
Ssj Goku(Multiplier now 25): 281,250,000 
   
Andriod 19: 64,000,000 
Goku(Heart Virus) : 140,625,000 
KamehameHa (weak) 160,000,000 
Andriod 19: 80,000,000 
Goku:(Heart Virus) 70,312,500 
Goku (drained) 3,515,626 
 
Vegeta:14,000,000 
SSj Vegeta:350,000,000 
Big Bang Attack: 475,000,000 
 
Dr Gero:80,000,000 
Piccolo(weights):145,000,000  
Piccolo(without weights) 181,250,000 
Dr Gero: 94,500,000 
Trunks:9,900,000
 
Andriod 18: 440,000,000 
Andriod 17:450,000,000 
 
SSj trunks:247,500,000 
Krillin:1,400,000 
 
Piccolo/The namek: 350,000,000 
Imperfect Cell: 275,000,000 
Piccolo(w/o weights) 437,500,000 
 
Imperfect Cell (Humans absorbed) : 550,000,000 
Andriod 16: 640,000,000 
 
Semi Perfect Cell: 1,000,000,000 
Neo tri Beam: 300,000,000 
 
Ssj Vegeta(post ROSAT) 1,400,000,000 
Ultra SSJ Vegeta: 2,100,000,000 
Trunks:100,000,000
SSj Trunks:800,000,000 
 Semi Perfect Cell (powered up) 1,450,000,000  
 
Perfect Cell(supressed): 2,770,000,000 
Final Flash: 6,300,000,000 
 
Ultra SSJ  Stage 2 Trunks : 2,400,000,000 
Ussj Stage 3 Trunks: 3,200,000,000 
 
Buff Perfect Cell (supressed):3,570,000,000 
  
Gohan: 5,000,000 
Goku( 100% Healthy): 25,000,000(you can't get zenkais after your first ssj transformation,but they ignored that rule for some reason.)
Ssj Gohan:750,000,000 
Gohan:15,000,000  
Ssj Goku:800,000,000 
Goku:100,000,000 
Ssj Goku: 1,600,000,000 
Ussj Goku:2,400,000,000 
SSj Gohan: 1,500,000,000 
Mssj Goku (supressed) 1,000,000,000 
Mssj Gohan (supressed)750,000,000 
Mssj Goku 50%: 4,500,000,000

Mr Satan: 25 
  
Cell(supressed): 5,000,000,000 
Mssj Goku:9,000,000,000 
Cell( supressed against FP Goku): 10,000,000,000  
Warp Kamehameha: 20,800,000,000 

Mssj Gohan: 15,000,000,000 
 
Cell(supressed against Gohan /sensu bean taken) : 20,000,000,000 
 
SSj Vegeta: 4,800,000,000 
Ssj Trunks:3,300,000,000 
Mssj Goku(After fighting Cell): 2,250,000,000 
Piccolo(w/o weights) 2,187,500,000 
Cell Jrs: 5,000,000,000 each 
Yamcha: 720,000 
Tein:1,830,000 
 
 
Ssj2 Gohan(Multiplier 16) :240,000,000,000
(multiplier for experienced ssjs is 8 at this point) 
Perfect Cell Full power: 30,000,000,000
Perfect Cell powered up to point of near self destruction: 60,000,000,000 
Semi Perfect Cell(Self Destruction) 15,000,000 
 
Super Perfect Cell: 210,000,000,000  
Kamehameha: 300,000,000,000 
Injured Gohan's Kamehameha: 250,000,000,000
Gohan's Kamehameha at max effort: 360,000,000,000 
 Combined with Cell's: 660,000,000,000 
 
Grand Kai: 1,000,000,000 
Goku: 1,125,000,000 
Super Perfect Cell(2%): 4,200,000,000  

Pikkon(weights): 6,300,000,000 
Olibu: 5,000,000,000 
  
Pikkon(w/o weights) :9,450,000,000 
Goku(mssj): 9,000,000,000 
Super Kaio Ken:18,000,000,000 
  
Hyper Tornado: 8,000,000,000
Thunder Flash:14,150,000,000  
Warp Kamehameha: 14,625,000,000  
 
7 Years later 
 
Gohan: 700,000,000 
Mssj Gohan(his power multiplier is 7x): 4,900,000,000 
Videl:30 
Goten: 75,000,000 
Ssj Goten: 3,750,000,000  
Trunks 80,000,000  
Ssj Trunks: 4,000,000,000 

Goten(at tournament) 100,000,000 
Trunks(Ditto ^): 105,000,000  
 
ssj Goten: 5,000,000,000 
ssj trunks 5,250,000,000 
 
Mr Satan: 27.5 
Pintar:15 
Krillin: 7,000,000 
Piccolo(wieghts): 3,500,000,000  
Supreme Kai: 3,200,000,000 
Videl:33 
Spopovitch: 75
Mssj Gohan(enraged): 9,800,000,000 
Yamu:65 
Kibito:530,000,000  
Ssj2 Gohan: 34,300,000,000 
Babidi(magic not included):10  
Pui Pui:  275,000  
Vegeta: 11,000,000,000 
Goku: 11,250,000,000 
Mssj Goku(multiplier 5x): 56,250,000,000
 SSj2 Goku(short time period): 112,500,000,000
 
Dabura(surpressed):6,000,000,000  
Dabura(Full power) 12,000,000,000 
 
Ssj Vegeta: 55,000,000,000 
Majin Ssj Vegeta: 56,250,000,000  

Ssj2 Goku:281,250,000,000
 Majin Vegeta ssj2: 281,250,000,000 
 
Majin Buu(supressed): 60,000,000,000 
Majin Buu( a bit angry): 300,000,000,000
 
Majin Vegeta Final atonement:  562,500,000,000 
 
Ssj3 Goku: 1,406,250,000,000 
Majin Buu(Full power): 1,200,000,000,000 
 
Gohan (post Z sword training):4,900,000,000 
 
Gotenks:10,250,000,000  
Ssj Gotenks(multiplier x50): 510,250,000,000 
 
Majin Buu(Total rage) 2,400,000,000,000 
 
Good Buu:800,000,000,000 
Evil Buu:1,600,000,000,000 
 
Super Buu: 4,800,000,000,000 
Gotenks (post training in ROSAT):30,750,000,000 
Ssj gotenks:1,530,750,000,000 
Ssj3 Gotenks (multiplier x3): 4,592,250,000,000
 
^ this is because Gotenks used it more of a technique than a legitimate transformation. He didn't ever achieve ssj2 and forced ssj3 out unnaturally by simpily powering up. Goku told Gohan during training once that that isn't the way to transform. I think we see the true difference between a true transformation and a power up through this example.
  
Old Kai: 32,000,000
 Gohan(powered up during ritual):2,401,000,000,000  
Ultimate Gohan (supressed) 147,000,000,000
Ultimate Gohan( Full power) 7,203,000,000,000 
 
Gotenks Buu: 9,392,250,000,000 
Piccolo Buu: 4,803,500,0000,000 
Gohan Buu: 12,003,000,000,000 
Vegetto:22,500,000,000,000 
Super Vegetto:112,500,000,000,000 
 
Buff Buu: 1,720,000,000,000 
Kid Buu: 1,600,000,000,000 
 
Spirit Bomb: 5,000,000,000,000 
 
 
10 years later

 
Piccolo(weights):7,000,000,000 
Base Gohan: 70,003,000,000 
Base Goten: 500,000,000 
Base Trunks:500,000,000 
Pan: 1,000,000 
Bra:1 
Good Buu:800,000,000,000 
Base Vegeta:112,500,000,000 
Base Goku: 225,000,000,000 
Uub:16 
Uub(serious): 160,000,000 
Uub(Furious) 1,600,000,000 
 
Gt 
 
Uub: 2,000,000,000,000 
Goku:2,250,000,000,000 
MSsj goku 4,500,000,000,000(multiplier x2) 
 
Trunks: 750,000,000
Goten: 750,000,000 
Vegeta: 562,500,000,000 
 
Ledric: 250,000,000,000 
Goku: 2,750,000,000,000 
Goku Mssj: 5,500,000,000,000 
 
General Rildo: 2,000,000,000,000  
Super Rildo: 3,000,000,000,000  
Super Rildo Phase 2: 4,000,000,000,000 
 
Dr Myu: 240,000,000 
Mr Satan: 20 
Baby Human: 100 
Teen Baby: 500,000,000  
Ssj goten: 1,500,000,000 
Ssj baby goten: 30,000,000,000 
Baby goten: 15,000,000,000 
Gohan:35,001,500,000 
Baby Goten SSj self destruct(attempt):60,000,000,000 
Ssj Gohan: 70,003,000,000 
Baby Ssj Gohan 1,400,600,000,000 
Piccolo (w/weights) : 140,000,000,000 
Baby Gohan: 700,300,000,000 
Vegeta: 787,500,000,000 
 Ssj Vegeta:1,575,000,000,000 
Ssj2 Vegeta: 3,150,000,000,000  

Baby Vegeta:15,750,000,000,000  
Ssj3 Goku: 22,000,000,000,000 
Super Baby Vegeta:31,500,000,000,000 
Uub:4,000,000,000,000  
Majuub:20,000,000,000,0000
Final Form Baby Vegeta: 63,000,000,000,000 
Goku Ssj3 (w/tail): 30,000,000,000,000 
Golden Oozaru Goku: 300,000,000,000,000 
SSj4 Goku: 600,000,000,000,000 
Golden Oozaru Baby Vegeta: 630,000,000,000,000 
Ssj Trunks: 1,500,000,000 
SSj4 Goku (empowered) :900,000,000,000,000 
 
 
Frieza: 6,400,000,000 
Super Perfect Cell:  1,050,000,000,000 
Goku:5,000,000,000,000 
Saibamen:1,200 
Majuub:25,000,000,000,000 
Vegeta: 2,000,000,000,000 
Nappa: 40,000 
Andoid 17  : 450,000,000
Counterpart: 450,000,000 
 
Super 17: 900,000,000,000,000 
SSJ Vegeta: 4,000,000,000,000 
SSj2 Vegeta: 8,000,000,000,000 
 
Mssj Goku: 10,000,000,000,000 
SSj4 Goku:  4,000,000,000,000,000 
Kamehameha x10:75,000,000,000,000,000
 Super 17(Kamehameha absorbed): 15,900,000,000,000,000. 
Base Goku: 5,000,000,000,000 
Dragonfist( w/love power aka...PIS): 5,000,000,000,000,000,000
 
Haze Shenron: 10,000,000 
Pan: 24,000,000 
  
Oceanus Shenron: 6,000,000,000,000 
Goku:9,000,000,000,000 
 
Naturon Shenron (Mole): 2,000,000 
Naturon Shenron(pan):  2,400,000,000,000,000  
Ssj4 Goku:7,200,000,000,000,000 
Naturon Shenron: 200,000 
 
Nova Shenron (supressed): 10,000,000,000,000 
Goku: 16,000,000,000,000 
Nova Shenron(True power): 10,000,000,000,000,000 
SSj4 Goku:12,800,000,000,000,000 
Ice Shenron: 4,000,000,000,000,000 
Syn Shenron: 20,000,000,000,000,000 
Gohan:40,000,000,000 
Ssj Gohan: 80,000,000,000 
Ssj4 Goku(powered up beyond limits,drawing from life force): 128,000,000,000,000,000 
Omega Shenron: 200,000,000,000,000,000 
Ssj4 Goku Dragonfist: 384,000,000,000,000,000 
Vegeta:  9,000,000,000,000
Golden oozaru Vegeta:720,000,000,000,000 
SSj4 Vegeta:7,200,000,000,000,000 
SSj4 Goku(tired) 7,200,000,000,000,000 
Ssj4 Gogeta: 1,440,000,000,000,000,000 
Ssj2 Vegeta: 36,000,000,000,000 
Universal Spirit Bomb: 1,000,000,000,000,000 
 
Goku(DragonBalls absorbed) 216,000,000,000,000,000 
100 years later 
 -skips weak people- 
 
Goku: 216,000,000,000,000,000,000 
 
-not shown- strength of Goku speculations. 
 
Mssj Goku: 532,000,000,000,000,000,000 
Ssj2 Goku : 1,064,000,000,000,000,000,000 
Ssj3 Goku : 2,128,000,000,000,000,000,000 
Ssj4 Goku: 212,800,000,000,000,000,000,000 


  
 
I know I'm treading on dangerous grounds here,but I'm the Beyonder so I think I'll be safe.... 
 
Silver Age Superman: 100,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 
,000,000,000  
(No this was not a random number,I came up with this figure based on his feats and the type of power I calculated to be required for said feats.) 
 
 
 
 
                                                THE GOKU VS SUPERMAN CRISIS

Keep in mind power levels aren't the only thing that play a big role in the outcome of battle. 
 
I'm not planning on doing one for current Superman since that position changes on a regular basis. However I will give my veiw on the Superman vs Goku issue. 
 
I believe Goku has amazing fighting capability,dedication,techniques,and destructive capability( via Ki blasts) 
However I do believe he lacks the physical fighting prowess of Superman and other comic heros. 
 
Superman displayed superior: Physical Strength,general intelligence, travel speed,durability,most likely combat speed, and other things along those lines. 
 
 
I believe Superman say All star Superman,due to these advantages, could defeat any version of Goku even after 100 years,however  I believe later versions of Goku such as the one 100 years after  Gt could also defeat this particular Superman or weaker versions with a good technique such as destructo disc. I think Superman would have trouble tanking a ki blast from a Goku of that level power. 
 

MY VEIW 
 
IF GT was more consistant. Then Superman vs SSJ4 Goku wouldn't be such a pain in the backside to debate.They vastly scaled up the characters powers,however many feats seemed less impressive. Base Goku blowing up a small unstable dimension,then SSJ4 Goku being in total awe of Omega Shenron destroying a city. That right there is the butt of Gt's  ability to keep things consistant. 
 
Funny thing is Nappa did the same thing,even in GT after coming back from Hell. NAPPA did this. Now a villain who threatens to eventaully destroy the universe impresses te great ssj4 Goku by preforming a Nappa level feat? 
 
Despite my distaste for GT I  am aware that they also showed high end feats Z characters wouldn't be capable of and they did power scale,so in order to provide to most accurate power levels possible,I assure you I never let my own bias get in the way of the way I veiw a character's ability. 
This applies to everything. 
 
Keep in mind GT and all movies are completely non-canon to the dragonball franchise. I don't think any canon version of Goku would stand a good chance against most comic book incarnations of Superman. 
 
 
 
 
 
Power Levels for Marvel 
 
Captain America: 50  
Spider Man:  175 
Colossus:300 
Thor: 300,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000( The amount of research for this one  took me a while...)  
 

Universal Eternity:5,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 
,000,000,000,000 ,000,000,000,000,000 ,000,000,000
 
 

Eternity is the cosmic equivalent of the substance on the universe itself/ the only reason he isn't as powerful as the the universe are the living beings within it I.e Galactus/Infinity..etc.. in total other abstacts could over power Eternity.
 
 
Multi Eternity :25,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 
,000,000,000,000 ,000,000,000,000,000 ,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 
,000,000,000,000 ,000,000,000,000,000 ,000,000,000
 
 
 
Thanos w/ Ig: 100,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 
,000,000,000,000 ,000,000,000,000,000 ,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 
,000,000,000,000 ,000,000,000,000,000 ,000,000,000
 
 
 
 
Living Tribunal : 15,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 
,000,000,000,000 ,000,000,000,000,000 ,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 
,000,000,000,000 ,000,000,000,000,000 ,000,000,000
 
 

 
 
SECRET WARS 1 and 2 (1984)  
 
 
  This is not a complete list,since I sold my issues a while back I'm just going to do what I remember and get the order  characters off of a respect thread...keep in mind this is BY FAR my favorite issue and I've know it for a long time,so don't think  I'm just pulling numbers out of thin air.  
 
 
These opinions were formed after considering multiple veiws points and are my personal belief if you do not agree, with me I'm willing to listen. But keep in mind I've talked over the matter with comicvine's very best debaters in the past and we eventually agreed that  since many of these high end powers can't be accurately evaluated without the say of the company itself, we can only rely on how certain feats or lower showings  were interpreted.  
 
 
   Some argue the LT is vastly more powerful than Pre Retcon Molecule man,however I disagree. Very few people believe Pre Retcon Beyonder is omnipotent, but I find this is generally due to the role of the being. Omnipotent beings usually are displayed as passive a mysterious,not the main character of the series. Another HUGE factor was the interpretation of  the actions, I've always FIRMLY believed that  showings of anything less than true omnipotence from Pre Retcon Beyonder were due to the intention of self restraint in order to have a more interesting experience in the multiverse. Pretty much everyone disagrees with me there. 
 
So here's  my opinion which I believe should hold some validity due to the fact I take  this especially seriously,and wouldn't try to slack off even the slightest bit. When it comes to fiction this series is my pride and joy..(considering I'm the main character ;p ) but anyway how I don't have it memorized by panel is beyond me.( Get it Beyond? Beyond the Beyonder)..  
 
Enjoy. 
 

  
Beyond Realm: Infinity  

Beyond realm becoming Beyonder: Infinity  

Totality of the 1984 Multiverse w/all life/abstract inside except Owen Reece:

5,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 
,000,000,000,000 ,000,000,000,000,000 ,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 
,000,000,000,000 ,000,000,000,000,000 ,000,000,000
  
  
 
 Beyonder(supressed) controling everything except Owen Reece.  

5,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 
,000,000,000,000 ,000,000,000,000,000 ,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 
,000,000,000,000 ,000,000,000,000,000 ,000,000,000
 
  
Supressed Beyonder's thought(destroying universes):  

100,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 
,000,000,000 ,000,000,000,000,000 
  
 
Beyonder (supressed) While doing this : 7,500,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 
,000,000,000 ,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 
  

 
 

Supressed Beyonder's thoughts manipulating the outcome of all reality: 
 
1,875,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 
,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 
,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 ,000,000,000,000 000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 

 
 
Beyonder(supressed) while doing this:  

140,625,000,000,000,000,000000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000, 
,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000, 
000,000,000,000,000,000 ,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
 
 
Marvel's Cosmic Council: 15,025,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 
,000,000,000,000 ,000,000,000,000,000 ,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 
,000,000,000,000 ,000,000,000,000,000 ,000,000,000
 
 

Multi Death: 20,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 
,000,000,000,000 ,000,000,000,000,000 ,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 
,000,000,000,000 ,000,000,000,000,000 ,000,000,000
 
 
 
Beyonder ( supressed) killing Death: 150,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 
,000,000,000,000 ,000,000,000,000,000 ,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 
,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 ,000,000,000,000,000 ,000,000,000
 
  
 
Beyonder (supressed) post Death's death: 130,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 
,000,000,000,000 ,000,000,000,000,000 ,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 
,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 ,000,000,000,000,000 ,000,000,000
 
    

Beyonder(supressed) post Death's recreation : 110,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 
,000,000,000,000 ,000,000,000,000,000 ,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 
,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 ,000,000,000,000 ,000,000,000,000,000 ,000,000,000
 
 
 
Beyonder( supressed)  seemingly mortal: 15 
 
Beyonder (supressed) re-empowered:  
125,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 
,000,000,000,000 ,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
 
000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 
  
Beyonder doing various deeds, destroying galaxies,saving universes
 


 
 




 

 



 



 






 

 



 





 




 

#2 Posted by King Saturn (224025 posts) - - Show Bio
hey... very interesting sir
#3 Posted by Samimista (20668 posts) - - Show Bio

You really did your research.

#4 Posted by King Saturn (224025 posts) - - Show Bio
I wonder where he will go with this...
#5 Posted by Samimista (20668 posts) - - Show Bio

guess we'll have to wait and see...

#6 Posted by jeanlucpicard (1845 posts) - - Show Bio

it's kinda confusing :S 
 
But looks like you did a lot of work. 
 
Since you're using canon are you going to use GT?
#7 Posted by WindCloud (2678 posts) - - Show Bio
@King Saturn: Hey, King Saturn, who's the chick this time ?
#8 Posted by King Saturn (224025 posts) - - Show Bio
@WindCloud said:
@King Saturn: Hey, King Saturn, who's the chick this time ?
same chick as last time... just a different image
#9 Posted by cattlebattle (12694 posts) - - Show Bio

Thats a lot of zeros, where is this info from?

#10 Posted by ssejllenrad (12847 posts) - - Show Bio
@King Saturn: If you're name doesn't have a 'King" in it.. I would be guessing you're Misa Campo herself.. Nyeheheh!
#11 Posted by King Saturn (224025 posts) - - Show Bio
@ssejllenrad said:
@King Saturn: If you're name doesn't have a 'King" in it.. I would be guessing you're Misa Campo herself.. Nyeheheh!
lmfao
#12 Posted by Primmaster64 (21138 posts) - - Show Bio

Dude where ya been at?

#13 Posted by King Saturn (224025 posts) - - Show Bio
I have been here....
#14 Posted by AssertingValor (5391 posts) - - Show Bio

this is cool,  we should apply this method to the big 2 comps.............
#15 Posted by DeathpooltheT1000 (10228 posts) - - Show Bio

SSJ3 would be something like 9 000 000 000 000!!!!

#16 Posted by firewrkninja (362 posts) - - Show Bio

anything above 9000 should just say IT'S OVER 9000!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

#17 Posted by DeathpooltheT1000 (10228 posts) - - Show Bio
#18 Posted by Pr_Beyonder (2440 posts) - - Show Bio
@ebuchanan: 2 big comps? Not sure I follow.
@jeanlucpicard: Since, it is opinated somewhat,I'll try to do non established characters to the best of my ability.
@cattlebattle: Based on canon established power levels and calculations.
@King Saturn: 
Thanks
#19 Posted by slacker the hacker (7835 posts) - - Show Bio
@Pr_Beyonder
wow your still around I thought you up and left good to see you again
#20 Posted by DeathpooltheT1000 (10228 posts) - - Show Bio
@Pr_Beyonder said:
@ebuchanan: 2 big comps? Not sure I follow.@jeanlucpicard: Since, it is opinated somewhat,I'll try to do non established characters to the best of my ability.@cattlebattle: Based on canon established power levels and calculations.@King Saturn: Thanks
Wait so, who is the most powerfull character?
#21 Posted by Pr_Beyonder (2440 posts) - - Show Bio
@DeathpooltheT1000 said:
@Pr_Beyonder said:
@ebuchanan: 2 big comps? Not sure I follow.@jeanlucpicard: Since, it is opinated somewhat,I'll try to do non established characters to the best of my ability.@cattlebattle: Based on canon established power levels and calculations.@King Saturn: Thanks
Wait so, who is the most powerfull character?
 
 
 In the dragonballs series or just in general?
 

@slacker the hacker said:
@Pr_Beyonder: wow your still around I thought you up and left good to see you again

Thanks :)
#22 Posted by Ms. Omega (4432 posts) - - Show Bio

Goku would be the most powerful  technically since he absorbed the dragonballs at the end of GT

#23 Posted by Pr_Beyonder (2440 posts) - - Show Bio
@Ms. Omega
   Well either him or Gogeta,when Gt is included.  
Goku in base form at the end of Gt should be a little bit more powerful than omega shenron. So i'll definately work on some calcuations. 
 But then again he does appear in the Goku Jr, Movie and after 100 years of training I'd imagine he'd be alot more powerful.
 
Vegetto was the most powerful canon character in the DB series.
#24 Posted by Pr_Beyonder (2440 posts) - - Show Bio
@Ms. Omega
I'm also going to do power levels for other companies,I'm really looking forward for a list of some original secret wars power levels.
#25 Posted by DeathpooltheT1000 (10228 posts) - - Show Bio
@Pr_Beyonder said:
@DeathpooltheT1000 said:
@Pr_Beyonder said:
@ebuchanan: 2 big comps? Not sure I follow.@jeanlucpicard: Since, it is opinated somewhat,I'll try to do non established characters to the best of my ability.@cattlebattle: Based on canon established power levels and calculations.@King Saturn: Thanks
Wait so, who is the most powerfull character?
 
 
 In the dragonballs series or just in general?
 

@slacker the hacker said:
@Pr_Beyonder: wow your still around I thought you up and left good to see you again
Thanks :)
Dragon Ball and general. 
also what is the power level of Fully Power Superman? 
so we have actually a battle that makes sense.
#26 Posted by Pr_Beyonder (2440 posts) - - Show Bio
@DeathpooltheT1000
  
Well in the Dragon Ball series  the strongest is:  
 
Canon                                                                 Non Canon
 
Unfused-Mystic Gohan                                     Goku 100 years after the battle with Omega Shenron or ssj4 Gogeta (I'm starting Gt pretty soon) 
Fused Super Veggeto
 
 
In General: TOAA,Presence,Over Monitor,Pre Retcon Beyonder, MoM,etc... 
 
 
Which version of Superman did you have in mind?
#27 Posted by DeathpooltheT1000 (10228 posts) - - Show Bio
@Pr_Beyonder: Current version and Silver Age Version. 
Also is Vegeta more powerfull as SSJ that Kakarot SSJ, i mean when both became SSJ the firt time?
Because many people belive that.
#28 Posted by Pr_Beyonder (2440 posts) - - Show Bio
@DeathpooltheT1000 said:
@Pr_Beyonder: Current version and Silver Age Version. Also is Vegeta more powerfull as SSJ that Kakarot SSJ, i mean when both became SSJ the firt time?Because many people belive that.

 
 
I'll need to be filled in on Current supes and I'll  definately include SA Supes in the thread eventually.
#29 Posted by DeathpooltheT1000 (10228 posts) - - Show Bio
@Pr_Beyonder said:
@DeathpooltheT1000 said:
@Pr_Beyonder: Current version and Silver Age Version. Also is Vegeta more powerfull as SSJ that Kakarot SSJ, i mean when both became SSJ the firt time?Because many people belive that.
  I'll need to be filled in on Current supes and I'll  definately include SA Supes in the thread eventually.
So this is going tobe alll the DB Marvel and DCs?
#30 Posted by Pr_Beyonder (2440 posts) - - Show Bio
@DeathpooltheT1000 said:
@Pr_Beyonder said:
@DeathpooltheT1000 said:
@Pr_Beyonder: Current version and Silver Age Version. Also is Vegeta more powerfull as SSJ that Kakarot SSJ, i mean when both became SSJ the firt time?Because many people belive that.
  I'll need to be filled in on Current supes and I'll  definately include SA Supes in the thread eventually.
So this is going tobe alll the DB Marvel and DCs?

Not ALL of them since there's thousands of characters and hundreds of verisions of many of them. 
 
But a large portion of iconic characters, characrters that serve a a measuring stick  on the power scale such as galactus,and commonly questioned characters such as LT,Pr Molecule Man,etc...  
 
Not saying all of these are officals( Everything up to the Freeza saga was),but these are my veiws based on the most accurate calculations I could provide,after great deals of research and experience. 
 
 
Outside of the offical power levels that I simpily got from canon sources, I'm expecting the 1984 secret wars series to be my most accurate since I know it better than anything else. 
 
(I was in it after all  ;P)
#31 Posted by Pr_Beyonder (2440 posts) - - Show Bio
@DeathpooltheT1000
So what do you think about the thread so far?
#32 Posted by DeathpooltheT1000 (10228 posts) - - Show Bio
@Pr_Beyonder said:
@DeathpooltheT1000: So what do you think about the thread so far?
Pretty good another wuestion spongebob could be part of the list and the SF casting? 
I mean Spongebob is so weak i am sure he is in negative like the Turtle and the SF have super power so it will be good to see a power level list for the game.
#33 Posted by Pr_Beyonder (2440 posts) - - Show Bio
@DeathpooltheT1000 said:
@Pr_Beyonder said:
@DeathpooltheT1000: So what do you think about the thread so far?
Pretty good another wuestion spongebob could be part of the list and the SF casting? I mean Spongebob is so weak i am sure he is in negative like the Turtle and the SF have super power so it will be good to see a power level list for the game.

Spongebob is a toon so,he's gonna have to be left out. 
 
 
What's SF? 
 
and I never found out what ''2 big comps'' was either.
#34 Posted by difficlus (10679 posts) - - Show Bio
@Pr_Beyonder: Great effort, thanks!
#35 Posted by Pr_Beyonder (2440 posts) - - Show Bio
@difficlus
:D
#36 Posted by gravitypress (2069 posts) - - Show Bio

Nice. Bullet points depicting story arcs might be less confusing though. But great job.

#37 Posted by Pr_Beyonder (2440 posts) - - Show Bio
@gravitypress
 Thanks, and I'll try to take requests,but only on commonly debated/questioned cosmic beings, is there any certain character(s) you'd like to see?
#38 Posted by DeathpooltheT1000 (10228 posts) - - Show Bio
@Pr_Beyonder: Street Fgihter i mean Zangief can piledrive bears into tornadoes and Akuma can destroy submarine with one hit.
#39 Posted by gravitypress (2069 posts) - - Show Bio
@Pr_Beyonder: Well say Freeza saga, Cell saga, Android saga. Just to help differentiate the different stages of power.
#40 Posted by Pr_Beyonder (2440 posts) - - Show Bio
@gravitypress
Will do,the reason I decided not to do that from the start was all the sub sagas I.e otherworld,trunks,namek,world tournament,great saiyaman,fusion etc... but I'll just tie them in with the main saga they are associated with :P
#41 Posted by DeathpooltheT1000 (10228 posts) - - Show Bio

This 0s thing make the list pretty damn big.

#42 Posted by PreRetconBeyonder (3 posts) - - Show Bio
@DeathpooltheT1000
Yep,I just wanted to emphasize the difference so it's more clear how much more significant some powers are in comparison to others. 
 
Also
I might be on hiatus for a while due to being unable to log on to Pr_Beyonder. 
 
I used the wrong name on my multipass registration,and I'm not able to log on now..since it's appearently a 1 account per site limit =x
#43 Posted by Glitch_Spawn (17132 posts) - - Show Bio

The amount of work that had to have gone into this is astounding.  The power levels seem inflated toward the end but entertaining nonetheless.  Kudos!

#44 Posted by Glitch_Spawn (17132 posts) - - Show Bio

Nah.  I meant like during the Buu Saga.

#45 Posted by Glitch_Spawn (17132 posts) - - Show Bio
@Ian_Somerhalder: Haha ya.  I started to feel bad for Krillin and Yamcha.  Even Piccolo was the strongest for awhile but by the end Vegeta and Goku were the only ones that could do anything.
#46 Posted by Owie (3690 posts) - - Show Bio
@Pr_Beyonder:  

   Some argue the LT is vastly more powerful than Pre Retcon Molecule man,however I disagree. Very few people believe Pre Retcon Beyonder is omnipotent, but I find this is generally due to the role of the being. Omnipotent beings usually are displayed as passive a mysterious,not the main character of the series. Another HUGE factor was the interpretation of  the actions, I've always FIRMLY believed that  showings of anything less than true omnipotence from Pre Retcon Beyonder were due to the intention of self restraint in order to have a more interesting experience in the multiverse. Pretty much everyone disagrees with me there. 
 

Well, at least, I agree with you.  Or at least if what you mean by "true" omnipotence is basically practical omnipotence...I think his power had limits, but the limits were (as stated many times in the series) millions of times greater than our multiverse combined.  So while he was not literally infinite, he was still able to do whatever he wanted, because his lower limits were still greater than our universe.  So he was omnipotent in the practical sense that he could do anything he wanted in/to our universe.  And he was just always restraining himself for the experience of it all.  And I agree, PR Owen was #2 underneath PR Beyonder, and was above LT and everyone else.
#47 Posted by higher_evolutionary (2015 posts) - - Show Bio
@Pr_Beyonder said:



Thor: 300,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000( The amount of research for this one  took me a while...)  
 


 
 




 

 



 



 






 

 



 





 




 

i am sorry but WFT pls explain personally he is i dont think he passes the million
 
and pls tell how do you guys calculate dbz power level i have always wanted to do it
like how did you get cell, majin vegeta, baby vegeta goku
and arent those levels toooo high near the end i mean master roshi destroyed the moon with just 170, and raditz 1,200 was at the speed of light
#48 Posted by buttersdaman000 (9591 posts) - - Show Bio
@higher_evolutionary said:
@Pr_Beyonder said:



Thor: 300,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000( The amount of research for this one  took me a while...)  
 


 
 




 

 



 



 






 

 



 





 




 

i am sorry but WFT pls explain personally he is i dont think he passes the million  and pls tell how do you guys calculate dbz power level i have always wanted to do it like how did you get cell, majin vegeta, baby vegeta goku and arent those levels toooo high near the end i mean master roshi destroyed the moon with just 170, and raditz 1,200 was at the speed of light
Lolwhut??
 
 
I calculated Goku's strength level on another site
 
Wednesday, July 13, 2011 3:40:12 AM (1 month ago)
Goku went Super Sayain to fight with 40 tons on him because at his base he couldnt do it.
But to be fair im gonna say he's a 100 tonner while super sayain. When you transform, i believe the power is multipled by 50 right?
soo....100x50 is 5000.
So at ssj2 goku is a 5000 tonner
5000x50 is
At ssj3 goku is a 250,000 tonner
Now....the average block of a pyramid weight 2.5 tons, well actually they can range from 2.5 to 15 tons, but im gonna keep it on the low end.
Average pyramid has over 1,300,000 blocks
2.5x1,300,000
So a small pyramid would weigh about 3,250,000 tons
Hmmm so Goku isnt even strong enough to lift a pyramid??
(I know he is straining but that is just for effect. iirc he went on to fly this thing to mars.......)

So would if he fused into vegito?
lets just add Vegeta on here, put him equal to goku...(this is hypothetical of course since Vegeta never reached ssj3). So the two of them together would be at 500,000 tons. Then multiply that by 50 you get...
Vegito is at 25,000,000 tons in strength.
As for SSJ Vegito, the strongest canon character on the show...
25,000,000x50
SSJ Vegito is at 1,250,000,000 tons in strength
 
Even calculating a big possible margin of error since the 50 multiplier might not be true when fused, Superman would still trump Goku in strength.
 


#49 Posted by unopen7639 (151 posts) - - Show Bio

wait it says right here kid buu destroyed a galaxy. im confuused cause i thoght there was 4 galaxys left.

#50 Posted by King Saturn (224025 posts) - - Show Bio
got any news stats in here now ?