Posted by TheHulk (799 posts) - - Show Bio

Today, Hulk want to talk about a topic that is going on all over the Internet. We all know the Wii U is not a big seller. It sold around 5 or 6 million as of 2014 in over a year, Hulk believe. But the Xbox One and PS4 sold around 4 million in a few months. That's not good. BUT, everyone think Nintendo is going to die because of this. NO THEY'RE NOT! They're not going to go under just because ONE console flops. Whether it'll turn around from Nintendo's 2014 games is debatable at the moment, but Hulk think it's possible. It might help, it might not.

But, even if it doesn't, Nintendo is not going to die just because a single system flops. People are saying because of this, "They should go to tablet and phone gaming." That's a horrible idea. Tablet games are like a dollar. Selling Nintendo games at that price on a tablet WOULD kill them. Is that what you want. Hulk think that's a stupid idea.

Hulk think the only way Wii U will make a comeback is if they start advertising it at the same pace as Xbox One. Xbox One commercials are all over the place. Hulk can't get away from them. Hulk want Wii U commercials to do the same thing. It'll help them get more sales because more people will know about it and what it is.

Overall, while Wii U is flopping, it's not totally impossible for them to turn it around. The 3DS did it, but they need to work harder to make that same miracle happen to the Wii U. Nintendo is not going to go under just because one console flops of theirs. So, from now on, Hulk don't want to see another stupid "Nintendo is dead" article, or HULK SMASH!!!

Now Hulk want to hear from you!

Do you have a Wii U? Do you like it? If not, do you want one?

#1 Posted by DoomGuy (772 posts) - - Show Bio

Nintendo isn't going anywhere.

While the Wii U might not have been a success as of now, the 3DS has totally being a success and Nintendo will always be banking as long as they own Mario, Zelda, Metroid, etc..

Wii U just screwed up for launching the system with mediocre launch titles, and Nintendo really does need to start appealing more to the adult crowd.

#2 Posted by JonSmith (3996 posts) - - Show Bio

I can't be the only one amused by the fact that the topic is a request to stop talking about Nintendo being 'doomed'... And the first dude who posts is called 'DoomGuy'.

#3 Posted by Xwraith (17380 posts) - - Show Bio

It's quite simple why people keep saying it:

They want them to fail.

#4 Posted by LyraFay (2527 posts) - - Show Bio

@xwraith said:

It's quite simple why people keep saying it:

They want them to fail.

We could also apply this to Batman vs Superman/Trinity as well. Sorry but its true as the Nintendo comments.

#5 Posted by MaccyD (3968 posts) - - Show Bio

I generally distrust the gaming industry knowledge of anyone who says that.

#6 Edited by Jonez120 (4155 posts) - - Show Bio

Actually, Sony is worth less than Nintendo.

It has also been predicted that Sony will probably go bankrupt within a few years.

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#7 Posted by MaccyD (3968 posts) - - Show Bio

Fun fact of the day: The Wii U has made more profit than both Xbox 360 and PS3 combined! This is because Nintendo are the only company to not sell their consoles at a lose/blade & razor business model.

#8 Posted by NorrinBoltagonPrime21 (5791 posts) - - Show Bio

Lets wait another year for the Wii U, better games are supposed to be coming out which will change opinions.

#9 Edited by DoomGuy (772 posts) - - Show Bio

@jonsmith said:

I can't be the only one amused by the fact that the topic is a request to stop talking about Nintendo being 'doomed'... And the first dude who posts is called 'DoomGuy'.

Didn't notice that. Touche, sir.

#10 Edited by Onemoreposter (4023 posts) - - Show Bio

@jonsmith said:

I can't be the only one amused by the fact that the topic is a request to stop talking about Nintendo being 'doomed'... And the first dude who posts is called 'DoomGuy'.

Ha, you are not.

#11 Edited by Zokergeist (864 posts) - - Show Bio

I've never been a big Nintendo fan.

#12 Posted by FearTheLiving (2910 posts) - - Show Bio

Even if Nintendo were to fail the console market they could always go third-party and make a butt load of cash doing that. I know of a lot of people that like their first party games but don't want to buy their consoles (partially me included).

#13 Posted by TheHulk (799 posts) - - Show Bio

Lets wait another year for the Wii U, better games are supposed to be coming out which will change opinions.

Hope it'll get people to by the dang thing. Hulk sick of all these doomed comments.

#14 Edited by NorrinBoltagonPrime21 (5791 posts) - - Show Bio

@thehulk said:

@norrinboltagonprime21 said:

Lets wait another year for the Wii U, better games are supposed to be coming out which will change opinions.

Hope it'll get people to by the dang thing. Hulk sick of all these doomed comments.

With a new Zelda, Mario Kart, and Super Smash bros game coming out this year, that's definitely going to boost sales. There are probably other games that I don't remember right now, but with more games coming, sales will increase because people will have something to play.

#15 Posted by KingOfAsh (3579 posts) - - Show Bio

Fire Emblem suggests that Nintendo is far from dead.

#16 Edited by TheHulk (799 posts) - - Show Bio

@doomguy said:

Nintendo isn't going anywhere.

While the Wii U might not have been a success as of now, the 3DS has totally being a success and Nintendo will always be banking as long as they own Mario, Zelda, Metroid, etc..

Wii U just screwed up for launching the system with mediocre launch titles, and Nintendo really does need to start appealing more to the adult crowd.

Hulk can agree with that. Why don't they make a Mario game that you can play online multiplayer on. Maybe engage in Mario battles or something.

Because online is all the rage these days.

#17 Posted by EpicTayMan (2167 posts) - - Show Bio

@thehulk: Wow you actually brung this thread back omg....

#18 Posted by Jayc1324 (11624 posts) - - Show Bio

Nintendo isn't going to die out or anything but they are very weak and aren't doing good at all. One failed system wont put them down forever but it does hurt them and will until they make a new system. I heard someone say that nintendo is good at making the types of games that just aren't popular right now. They have to change something soon if they want to do better.

Companies don't even bother to make most games for Wii u anymore. Pretty soon Wii u is gonna be stuck with Mario games

#19 Edited by Wolfrazer (6489 posts) - - Show Bio

Nintendo should go back to their roots and make good, sturdy GAMING consoles. With good wired controllers that will last, my N64 still runs great to this day...that is what they need to go back to and make games..JUST GAMES for a gaming console. None of this TV/IM chat/Whatever you wanna call it on a gaming console, because then it's not a gaming console anymore...it's just an entertainment system.

Make a good gaming console that focuses on games and that is when people will buy.

#20 Edited by frogdog (3246 posts) - - Show Bio

Even if Nintendo were to fail the console market they could always go third-party and make a butt load of cash doing that. I know of a lot of people that like their first party games but don't want to buy their consoles (partially me included).

Many of the nintendo games would suffer greatly in terms of quality if this ever happened.

#21 Posted by Squares (5631 posts) - - Show Bio

@epictayman: Wow, you actually used the word 'brung'.

#22 Edited by EpicTayMan (2167 posts) - - Show Bio

@squares: Shut up lol i put you in my female viner thread ^_^

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#25 Posted by FearTheLiving (2910 posts) - - Show Bio

@frogdog: I really don't think so. Why would you say that? Because they aren't getting the money from their consoles or they aren't being produced on their consoles that they thought up?

#26 Posted by frogdog (3246 posts) - - Show Bio

@feartheliving: Aside from the wii U, Nintendo mainly gets their profits from consoles and gameboys.

Not to mention there hasn't been a switch from first part to third party that actually helped a video game company.

#27 Posted by russellmania77 (15021 posts) - - Show Bio

Ps 4life

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#28 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (33062 posts) - - Show Bio

@epictayman: It's a blog, he can do what the hell he wants with it.

#29 Posted by FearTheLiving (2910 posts) - - Show Bio

@frogdog: They could just drop consoles and stay handheld, and I don't recall a company with Nintendo's titles that went 3rd party aside from Sega. I think Nintendo would do just fine if they went third-party they'd get people who normally don't buy their consoles money as well.

#30 Edited by frogdog (3246 posts) - - Show Bio

@frogdog: They could just drop consoles and stay handheld, and I don't recall a company with Nintendo's titles that went 3rd party aside from Sega. I think Nintendo would do just fine if they went third-party they'd get people who normally don't buy their consoles money as well.

Aside from pokemon, nintendo's highest selling games come from their consoles, it wouldn't be smart to focus on handheld.

Atari, Neo Geo & Sega all the three listed never benfitted from going third party, hell sega had to bought by sammy to escape bankruupcy. That's not even accounting that many of these companies make less games in comparsion to their first party days.

Those people are an minorty not worth chasing in comparsion to loyal fanbase, nintendo has made over the years, not to mention that during changes from first to third party, major employees tend to leave which uselly results in long term franchises dropping in quality.

#31 Edited by FearTheLiving (2910 posts) - - Show Bio
@frogdog said:

@feartheliving said:

@frogdog: They could just drop consoles and stay handheld, and I don't recall a company with Nintendo's titles that went 3rd party aside from Sega. I think Nintendo would do just fine if they went third-party they'd get people who normally don't buy their consoles money as well.

Aside from pokemon, nintendo's highest selling games come from their consoles, it wouldn't be smart to focus on handheld.

Atari, Neo Geo & Sega all the three listed never benfitted from going third party, hell sega had to bought by sammy to escape bankruupcy. That's not even accounting that many of these companies make less games in comparsion to their first party days.

Those people are an minorty not worth chasing in comparsion to loyal fanbase, nintendo has made over the years, not to mention that during changes from first to third party, major employees tend to leave which uselly results in long term franchises dropping in quality.

Well yeah aside from Pokemon their other games are pretty much only on consoles. That's like saying I release Jumper 5000 only on the N46 should I be surprised it sells more on the N46? As for the companies you mentioned non of them have the type of first party games that Nintendo has through their own company, nor was gaming as popular/main stream as it is now.

I'm not saying it a sure thing or anything, but I think you're giving Nintendo less credit than it deserves.

#32 Posted by MaccyD (3968 posts) - - Show Bio

@feartheliving: You mean besides Animal Crossing, Toon Zelda, Fire Emblem, Advance Wars, Kid Icarus and Kirby, Nintendo have no franchises on their portables?

#33 Posted by Orician_Seis (491 posts) - - Show Bio

Nintendo isn't going anywhere. Their company value is almost 20 billion. They dwarf Sony and Microsoft in that division. The only reason Sony and Microsoft can boast higher numbers is because they do more than gaming. The 3DS alone can carry the company. They've made poor choices yes, but they are by no means suffering. I think upcoming Zelda and especially the new Smash Bros can turn it around. Nintendo offers what the others can't. Exclusives. The best First Party support for a console ever. They don't need online gaming, the social aspect. They are personally my favorite company. The WiiU is my favorite console. If it fails, they will just try again. They have nothing to worry about.

#34 Posted by frogdog (3246 posts) - - Show Bio

@frogdog said:

@feartheliving said:

@frogdog: They could just drop consoles and stay handheld, and I don't recall a company with Nintendo's titles that went 3rd party aside from Sega. I think Nintendo would do just fine if they went third-party they'd get people who normally don't buy their consoles money as well.

Aside from pokemon, nintendo's highest selling games come from their consoles, it wouldn't be smart to focus on handheld.

Atari, Neo Geo & Sega all the three listed never benfitted from going third party, hell sega had to bought by sammy to escape bankruupcy. That's not even accounting that many of these companies make less games in comparsion to their first party days.

Those people are an minorty not worth chasing in comparsion to loyal fanbase, nintendo has made over the years, not to mention that during changes from first to third party, major employees tend to leave which uselly results in long term franchises dropping in quality.

Well yeah aside from Pokemon their other games are pretty much only on consoles. That's like saying I release Jumper 5000 only on the N46 should I be surprised it sells more on the N46? As for the companies you mentioned non of them have the type of first party games that Nintendo has through their own company, nor was gaming as popular/main stream as it is now.

I'm not saying it a sure thing or anything, but I think you're giving Nintendo less credit than it deserves.

Mario, Zelda, Metroid & donkey kong all have handheld games. Sonic was a system seller for sega, and still pushes over a million in sales with comparsion to other platforming games that aren't nintendo games. Not to mention they are still vaild exampes of turning third party being bad for company, even if your xbox or playstation.

I'm not the person asking for nintendo to throw the towel for consoles, just because of one console blunder.

#35 Edited by FearTheLiving (2910 posts) - - Show Bio

@maccyd: @frogdog: To be fair I'm not up on mobile gaming aside from Pokemon back in the day I pretty much ignored them. I was also referring more to their main titles which are on their console and only their console it isn't like they are competing with their handheld. And I never said for Nintendo (as in I wanted them to or should) to throw in the towel for consoles don't put words in my mouth. Also is Sonic really the best example? I mean aside from pimping him out he has had some of the worst games made.

All I'm saying is if there were a company to go third party and be successful at it, it would be Nintendo. I mean you two already named a bunch of IPs they own those IPs can profit with or without a Nintendo console.

#36 Posted by frogdog (3246 posts) - - Show Bio

@maccyd: @frogdog: To be fair I'm not up on mobile gaming aside from Pokemon back in the day I pretty much ignored them. I was also referring more to their main titles which are on their console and only their console it isn't like they are competing with their handheld. And I never said for Nintendo (as in I wanted them to or should) to throw in the towel for consoles don't put words in my mouth. Also is Sonic really the best example? I mean aside from pimping him out he has had some of the worst games made.

All I'm saying is if there were a company to go third party and be successful at it, it would be Nintendo. I mean you two already named a bunch of IPs they own those IPs can profit with or without a Nintendo console.

New super mario bros started on ds, then got a console versions, starfox 64, mario 64 and ocarina of time got ported to the 3ds. Asking any first party gaming company to go third party, is like asking a heavy weight boxer to go crusierweight. Could you name another big mascot for gaming that went from first party to third party and still sells alot? Hell can you even name a gaming company that benfited from switching first party to third?

What your suggestion would only mean the nintendo would sell nothing but Mario & Zelda, because without their first party funding, they can't risk trying to make other second party games like metriod because that series doesn't sell well.

I'm merly pointing out that go third party has to many risks in the long term, and would damage their sales.

#37 Posted by FearTheLiving (2910 posts) - - Show Bio

@frogdog: I I'm saying I just don't see it, if they are already putting out those games as a first party company they should also be able to do it on third party where they should theoretically have a bigger pool to pull from. And again I'm not suggesting anything I said if Nintendo ever did fail at the console market they could always go third party I don't understand why you think I'm saying Nintendo should just drop what they're doing now and go third party.

#38 Posted by SuperStar_sketcher (1421 posts) - - Show Bio

i agree hulk

#39 Edited by GeekBait (779 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't have a Wii U but I'm going to guess it's not the console's fault itself, it's the fact that a lot of games coming out for other systems aren't being made on the Wii U for whatever reason (i.e. Destiny, Batman: Arkham Knight, Battlefield 4, FFXV, etc.) and that definitely does some damage when you compare it to the PS4 and One.

What Nintendo should do is make a new, compact console with an actual controller (maybe even GameCube 2?). It'd be awesome if they could add backwards compatibility for GC, Wii, and U games, but I'm not sure if that's possible.

#40 Edited by Vaeternus (9410 posts) - - Show Bio

Yeah dude I wouldn't put much effort into it, people are going to hate. The WIi U has a slow start like PS3 did, big deal but it's still not as bad as people make it out to be and Nintendo still owns everyone in the portable market lol so they're not going anywhere.