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@ariesxmasters: Hes a lot weaker than Beerus and Beerus is SS level. Id say multi-planet energy wise and MOS level striking wise. His punches with Beerus where making the same effect Supes and Zods fight is MOS but that was at 80% so ID say higher.
@ariesxmasters: Hes a lot weaker than Beerus and Beerus is SS level. Id say multi-planet energy wise and MOS level striking wise. His punches with Beerus where making the same effect Supes and Zods fight is MOS but that was at 80% so ID say higher.
Before the final fight he was a lot weaker than Beerus. After His god form ran out Beerus was still stronger but no where near the level before. Superman and Zod's fight was very destructive I will say, city wise ad least, they did a lot of damage. Goku and Beerus fight was planet level destruction and they were both holding back. Vegeta powering up alone was destroying the ground beneath him. Beerus and Goku (After he loses his god form) I think they can bust more then planets. Beerus was destroying worlds easily when he ate that hot piece of food. It is hard ti tell their destructive limits. Goku (When Beerus first encountered him) is still easily planet level and that is without him intending to be. Goku's target is Beerus, and the force alone of the punch's from Goku were destroying the planet. The destructive force of these Dbz related characters can get pretty high.
@ariesxmasters: I was trolling with the MOS part lmao. Also the "worlds" Beerus destroyed were pretty small. Id say continent level striking wise and thats a big feat IMO. I dont think they are planet level just yet. There greatest attribute is energy output and If my prediction is right and SSJG Goku and Vegeta do fusion in the next movie after Vegeta gains SSJG then that will be SS and a little bit more but still below Whis who I estimate at 2SS if he gives it all hes got.
Im not really bothered if they have that level of striking power. For example Thor and Superman I believe have better striking power than Silver Surfer yet it doesnt change the fact that SS could take them both on at the same time. Not saying Goku is Silver Surfer level, just making a point.
I would like for them to say something along the lines of "my machine is saying they are moving at light speed but it seems imposible" or near lightspeed? It would really help for debating wise because I just put them at ridiculously hypersonic just because theres no feat to suggest theyre light speed or above and I hate to make that assumption since IMO seperates the men from the boys.
@dbzk1999: Yeah but what are they supposed to do? Goku is gonna go froma 6 to an 11 in 3 years? Maybe if Vegeta and Goku tag team they might be more formidable but Im not sure theyre even gonna fight Bills again in the next movie. What do you think will be next movies plot and if its Bills again how they would overcome it. [Im not too creative myself.]
@darthvxder: I get what you're saying. I don't usually really like to compare Dbz character to comics characters. I generally like to keep everything in its own universe it makes it easier to compare.
When you compare Dbz to comics you got one side making Goku sound like he could blast the whole galaxy away in one blast without trying, then you got the other side trying to making Superman sound like he is invincible to everything. Really makes for a boring debate IMO both sides make their character sound Invincible to the other which I don't like. Invincible characters to me are boring for debates, and are twice as boring to read about, lol I like my characters to be able to actually lose or get a run for their money ad least.
The worlds Beerus did destroy were pretty small worlds now that I re-watch the movies. I think their strikes are continent level as well depending if they go 100% or not. It is difficult to tell how fast their fight and moving like you said there is not clear indication or judgement. What I noticed about Dbz is they like to keep everything a mystery. Like for instant Goku's striking power per say. They don't give a clear indication of his full potential. I mean when he punched Beerus as the SSJ god and make that giant crater from the pool was that his full striking power? Probably not but no clear answer. When Vegeta powered up to SSJ 2 and the ground beneath him started to crumble was that his maximum destructive power? I doubt it but again not clear answer.
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